Um, Hello, Geniuses. Sex Robots Are Not Human Beings
An anti-sex trafficking group, Elijah Rising, with the goal of ""ending sex trafficking through prayer, awareness, intervention, and restoration," is -- yes, really -- petitioning to keep sex robots out of Houston.
As of Saturday, they had almost 4,900 signatures on the petition they'll present to the Houston mayor.
First, Elizabeth Nolan Brown, at Reason, lays out how almost all of the supposed "sex trafficking" authorities are going after turns out to be consensual sex for money between consenting autonomous adults.
My fave headline on one of Brown's pieces: "Human Trafficking Court in Delaware Shuts Down for Lack of Human-Trafficking Victims."
As for what prompted the group in Houston the rise up and get all petition'y, from Fox Houston:
The owner of KinkySdollS, a company based in Toronto, told the Washington Examiner that he will expand his operation to a Houston location in September, with the goal of having ten U.S. locations by the year 2020. The Houston location is projected to include on-site, short-term private rentals.The company owner says the location is not really a brothel, but rather a "try before you buy" arrangement.
Yick. Let's hope they have giant dishwashers for those who don't make the cut.
As for this group, what's next -- labor laws for vibrators?
via @mikeshewlett








Won't they think of the poor?
Some folk can't afford the purchase price of one of these or a RealDoll!
PS: have you seen the movie, A.I.?
Radwaste at September 24, 2018 3:38 AM
"As for this group, what's next -- labor laws for vibrators?"
Nope! It'll be Pennzoil's new line of personal lubricants. "Keep your doll's motor clean, with Pennzoil Full Synthetic!"
Hmm. You think people are obsessed with their phone...
Radwaste at September 24, 2018 3:43 AM
I never thought dolls that resembled women would be a big deal but I wondered about dolls portraying children or beasts. Would they be seen as fantasy outlets or as identifiers of depraved humans? Would an inanimate object need protection or would they assume that what one does to a robot, they would to to a living being, should one be available?
Jen at September 24, 2018 3:55 AM
Of course, none of this is about the icky sex dolls, which are inanimate objects any way you look at them. It is all about the "icky" people who might want to use them. As Jen suggests above, how long will it be before some poor sod's arrested for some action that involved no other person whatsoever?
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at September 24, 2018 5:31 AM
Some people just can't tolerate that someone some where is having fun.
Jay at September 24, 2018 5:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNkI8lzCnyw&feature=youtu.be&t=1m15s
It is all about the "icky" people who might want to use them. As Jen suggests above
Depravity is in the eye of the beholder. I'm pretty sure that the posters to this here blog have done things that would draw the ire of the neo-puritans.
As the man said, they can't stand the idea of someone some where having fun of the sort they do not approve of.
I R A Darth Aggie at September 24, 2018 6:27 AM
"...having fun of the sort they do not approve of."
But deep down they really, REALLY wish they could have themselves.
Also, recalling the several cases of publicly conservative folks caught wide-stancing. Fun for me, but not for thee, perhaps in operation here.
bkmale at September 24, 2018 7:52 AM
The anti-sex robot people are what I consider anti-sexual perverts. I've known a bunch of them over the years, always happy to make up "laws" against this or that kind of sex.
Kent McManigal at September 24, 2018 8:35 AM
Like I believe I said before, I have lousy luck with women, but I would still prefer to lay down with a live woman than a robot.
However, I'm not for banning these robots. Some men gotta get them some, even though no live woman would have them.
mpetrie98 at September 24, 2018 11:28 AM
The year 2057. Senate Judiciary Committee hearing regarding a new appointment to the Supreme Court.
Did you sexually assault a sex bot in 2022?
I R A Darth Aggie at September 24, 2018 11:34 AM
If we can't control other people's sexual proclivities, what's the point in having prisons?
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 24, 2018 12:30 PM
In the end it's all about the intrasexual competition.
The money these men are spending on these sexbots should be spent on doting women -whose only interest in these individuals is milking their wallets, not their genitals- with gifts.
Sixclaws at September 24, 2018 1:06 PM
Something funky's going on with Senator Hirono.
When she questioned Kavanaugh during the 9/5 confirmation hearing, she went off on an out of context tangent about sexual assault, asking him two very pointed questions that she claims she asks of all lifetime nominees.
https://twitter.com/phillyrich1/status/1044246068349874178
Snoopy at September 24, 2018 2:08 PM
4900 signatures doesn't sound like very many. Least of all in a city the size of Houston.
Patrick at September 24, 2018 5:30 PM
Could be worse.
Zardoz
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 24, 2018 6:28 PM
Oh, Lord. Sexbot activism. Reminds me of an episode in Star Trek: The Next Generation, "The Measure of a Man."
A rather ambitious, if somewhat callous electronics expert (Commander Bruce Maddox) sought to dismantle Commander Data, so he could learn how to produce more of them. However, in dismantling and reassembling Data, the question of whether Data would retain his memories was in doubt.
Data objected; but Commander Maddox already had obtained orders compelling Data to comply with this procedure. Data sought to resign his commission to avoid this process, but Maddox maintained that Data was property and couldn't resign.
So, a trial of sorts was put on before a JAG officer, with Commander Reichardt being compelled to argue against Data's rights, with the caveat that if the JAG officer so much as suspected that Reichardt was giving it less than he best argumentation, she would give a default judgment against Data's rights.
Picard argued in Data's defense, and (of course) prevailed.
I'm sure the episode was intended to be a great, dramatic, profound, compelling work. Unfortunately, it failed in that respect. The obvious (and conclusive) argument was overlooked. Since Data had a commission and could issue orders to subordinates, even ordering them to their deaths, the question of his rights as an officer had already been decided by Star Fleet. He already enjoyed all the perks and responsibility of being an officer. Implicit in this is that he's not property.
Patrick at September 24, 2018 6:29 PM
SJW policing of every nook and cranny of everyone's nooks and crannies continues apace.
FFS it's a costume, not a genocidal attack plan.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 24, 2018 7:08 PM
*Riker
…and it wasn’t his being a droid that stopped you, it was that he was commissioned?
You go a long way to kill joy.
Radwaste at September 24, 2018 7:28 PM
I read an article about the guys who repair these and apparently a lot of violent fucked up stuff is done to these dolls.
So the question is, do the guys who use them vent their emotions and get it out of their system and then leave real women alone?
Or do they abuse the dolls and then start seeing real women as dolls and start abusing them too?
And why are people disturbed by child or animal dolls but cool with women dolls?
Frankly, these guys ARE icky losers, it's not a bad thing to call it like it is. This is not fleshlight, these are guys dropping quite a bit of cash on a masturbation aid. Apart from the occasional extremely handicapped person or something.
That said, as long as the dolls don't lead to abuse of actual people or animals, people are within their rights to be icky losers and their shouldn't be a law against it.
Wouldn't want to see this go mainstream though.
NicoleK at September 25, 2018 1:05 AM
Nicole, I wouldn't worry about it going mainstream unless the price comes down to where it's competitive with a jar of hand lotion. Like you said, it's a masturbation aid.
Rex Little at September 25, 2018 4:55 AM
And you've obviously never watched the series, or, if you have, never thought critically about it.
Data is obeyed by subordinates just as if he were a human being. No one ever said to him, "I'm not taking orders from a machine."
It's not a long way at all. In fact, it's painfully obvious. Star Fleet essentially settled the question of Data's sentience the day he got a commission.
Patrick at September 25, 2018 6:03 AM
Ah the days when giant flying heads barfed guns at you. Those were the days. I remember Zardoz.
And I wouldn't say sentience Patrick. But they did determine the property question. The Enterprise doesn't have a commission and cannot leave, it is property.
The bigger issue with Maddox's claim was Star Fleet didn't even build Data. They did find him and reactivate him but he was never their property to begin with. Even if Data was determined to be property and not a person he wasn't Star Fleet's property. What Maddox wanted to do would be theft and destruction of someone else's private property.
But then again a lot of Star Trek episodes had major issues with them.
Ben at September 25, 2018 9:59 AM
I've been avoiding commenting on this thread since I could never enter a shop, look another human being in the eye, and rent a sex doll from him/her.
But then I ran across this on my Facebook feed. I don't know if it's true, but it seemed remotely relevant.
Sex dolls may not be human, but product liability suits will hit both the manufacturer and the distributor hard - no pun intended.
Conan the Grammarian at September 25, 2018 1:18 PM
Ben: "Even if Data was determined to be property and not a person he wasn't Star Fleet's property. What Maddox wanted to do would be theft and destruction of someone else's private property."
Completely agree, however the Star Trek Federation has a rather leftist slant, and I don't see them taking personal property rights over good of the Federation.
Joe J at September 25, 2018 5:21 PM
For a different view of sex robots. There's always Futurama's take.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrADTN-dvg
Joe J at September 25, 2018 5:31 PM
The writers certainly had that slant Joe. Honestly you never saw much of general Federation life in the series. It was always military ships and military bases. Civilians are rare. And once you take a step back from the propaganda the Federation looks an awful lot like a military dictatorship. You've even got part of their military overseeing time travel in order to ensure their militaristic victory. And various shady spy organizations causing wars and assassinating people. So stealing stuff when the owners can't fight back doesn't sound that far fetched.
But that may be because the show is so military focused. I don't think we ever saw a non-military court. The largest non-military organization I can recall is either a restaurant or a spa. It would be hard to tell much about our culture if the only non-military thing you ever saw was when some army grunts went to a Denny's.
Ben at September 26, 2018 5:20 AM
"And you've obviously never watched the series, or, if you have, never thought critically about it."
Hee, hee, hee!
I've cosplayed "Piece of the Action" at Dragoncon to ask Shatner what he thought of Twilight Zone writers.
I have thought about the show - and even though I was in elementary school when it started, I noted instantly that if you want to enjoy the show, there are tons of things you have to ignore.
Tons.
Radwaste at September 27, 2018 9:20 PM
Recycle your bots!
Unless dumping the body is part of your fantasy.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at September 28, 2018 8:52 AM
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