Smokin' Hot Women Should Pay Taxes, Too!
There's a snitch brigade out there -- #thotaudit -- "making sure hot women aren't making money off their hotness without giving the government a cut," as the subhead at Reason puts it.
Elizabeth Nolan Brown reports at Reason of "a vigilante gang of keyboard warriors launched a campaign to report random internet strangers to the IRS for tax evasion, using the hashtag #thotaudit":
The snitch crusade is ostensibly geared at making sure that hot women aren't making money off their hotness without giving the government a cut."Raise your hand if you agree instagram models and snapchat queens should pay their taxes just like the rest of us," tweeted the right-wing gadfly Jack Posobiec in one typical example of the genre.
Where to begin with the grossness and pointlessness of these pursuits?
There's the libertarian angle of course: What kind of bootlicking busybodies spend their spare time worrying about whether individual strangers are paying enough in taxes, much less take the time to report them?
Then there's the ignorance. Plenty of solo sex workers, adult entertainers, and models do pay taxes, just like other independent contractors, and it's silly to assume that just because someone is employed in a stigmatized industry they must also be skirting the law. Sex workers have the same incentives as everyone else to stay on the good side of Uncle Sam.
Surely some sex workers--like self-employed workers in many industries--do underreport or altogether avoid taxes. But somehow, the prospect of tax-dodging Airbnb hosts, YouTubers, freelance writers, and others hasn't spurred the online audit squad to action. And the decision to target only women making a living off their looks smacks of straight-up sexism, not a neutral, civic-minded concern with IRS evasion.
She also observes the nastiness of the hashtag,
In reality, the IRS requires real details on any tax cheating -- not the stuff some resentful jerk on Instagram will be able to pony up about some stranger. And Brown notes:
Then, even if they did have all the correct information, there's little likelihood that the IRS would care. The page specifically notes that it's interested in situations involving "a significant Federal tax issue"--i.e., not someone making a few hundred unreported dollars per year selling used underwear and butt selfies. As dominatrix Mistress Matisse put it: "Dudes, they want Donald Trump, they don't want camgirls."
I'm all for people being in whatever profession they want whether it's accounting, sex work, or doing fecal transplants. Personally, I don't know how the accountants do it, but that's just me.
If someone wants to buy sex, and somebody wants to sell it, and they're both adults, who are we or the government to get between them -- arrest, prosecute, fine, and cage them?
I mean, accounting doesn't seem like a whole lot of fun to me, but nobody's picketing that accountants are preyed upon by the companies that hire them. Consenting adults doing spread sheet math -- that seems to be their Ninth Amendment right!








> who are we or the government
> to get between them -- arrest,
> prosecute, fine, and cage
> them?
Amongst our other roles, we are often homeowners who don't want our property zones sullied by tawdry, irresponsible behavior.
I'll never understand why people think whoring is cute when they can never name the woman in their family who ought to have made a career of it.
Crid at November 27, 2018 11:16 PM
You're never too old to patrol thots -
https://twitter.com/scooobee/status/1066433953878458369
Snoopy at November 28, 2018 2:50 AM
Good thread about this issue -
https://twitter.com/KanyeTheLobster/status/1066487947996749824
"I'm a libertarian who believes prostitution should be legalized..."
"The older I get, the more apparent it is to me that traditional, restrictive monogamy is absolutely foundational to successful civilizations, and that the conservative obsession with traditional morality is well placed."
"Why do so many young men of the #ThotAudit feel resentful of young women who want to sell nudes without consequence? Because those men understand, at a deep lizard-brain level, that those women are a danger to the integrity of the tribe"
Snoopy at November 28, 2018 2:56 AM
I notice you didn't feel the need to say "I'm not a thot" or "I pay my taxes" when discussing this issue, yet any discussion remotely related to Trump you say "I'm not a Trumper", like you did yesterday.
Snoopy at November 28, 2018 3:34 AM
I hate to break it to her, but not all sex workers are women.
So I've heard.
From people who know.
Patrick at November 28, 2018 3:57 AM
I notice you didn't feel the need to say "I'm not a thot"...
I don't find sex work or having sex as desired shameful.
Patrick, I believe it's women largely or only being targeted, not men.
Amy Alkon at November 28, 2018 6:00 AM
You kinda proved Snoopy's point there Amy.
Ben at November 28, 2018 6:15 AM
Unfortunately legal prostitution correlates with high rates of trafficking and higher rates of illegal prostitution.
While I understand the whole, "You should be able to do what you want with your body" argument, the reality is prostitution comes with a host of other problems, and for that reason I favor the nordic model as the best current option.
No one is tricking vulnerable poor people into becoming accountants. Accountants jobs don't violate OSHA health standards.
NicoleK at November 28, 2018 6:32 AM
This has nothing to do with a love of tax enforcement or prostitution.
These women have been spamming gaming and social media channels trying to sell pictures of themselves. They've become a huge nuisance. So someone came up with the idea to report them to the IRS to scare them off - it's not apparent that's actually happening.
This has nothing to do with 'incels' , 'misogyny' or prostitution.
paula at November 28, 2018 6:50 AM
Yes paula, it takes more than a superficial glance to get to the heart of the "movement". Apparently the game streaming companies are also profiting from the "thot" disruptors so don't really care that the gamers are being disrupted.
some seppo at November 28, 2018 7:02 AM
Paula nails it... the THOTs are big-time spammers and they have become a major PITA on gamer boards. This is the part of the story that Brown is missing. They employ services that are constantly opening new throwaway accounts. I've been in the position of being an admin on a board that was targeted by these types of spammers, and when you have to spend your time banning hundreds of accounts per day, it becomes not so fun. There's also the issue that there is a lot of fraud. Many of them are over-billing and/or sending out random pics that they pulled off of Pornhub or someplace.
I'm pretty libertarian about sex work too. But these THOTs are not "honest" sex workers. By and large, they are narcissistic scammers who think that they have the right to invade an online space and dominate it, and if they can't, they'll try to shut it down with DDOS attacks and the like. That's what the board admins and supporters are fighting. Been there, done that.
Cousin Dave at November 28, 2018 7:04 AM
These women have been spamming gaming and social media channels trying to sell pictures of themselves.
*ding*ding*ding*
I think it is the gaming platforms spam that is irksome part. But since I only am on twitter (mostly read-only), I'm can't speak to the spam levels on the other social medium. And I don't see a lot of such spam on twitter. But I'm not using the official twitter app. That may make difference.
Apparently the game streaming companies are also profiting from the "thot" disruptors so don't really care that the gamers are being disrupted.
Oh.
I R A Darth Aggie at November 28, 2018 7:30 AM
thanks - if these guys really wanted to f*ck with the Thot's, they'd be reporting them for solicitation and distribution of pornography to minors. That's a lot scarier than tax evasion.
paula at November 28, 2018 8:37 AM
If you didn't pay to get on the site or in the stream, you're the product.
"If you sit in on a poker game and don’t see a sucker, get up. You’re the sucker."
Conan the Grammarian at November 28, 2018 8:59 AM
Conan: If you didn't pay to get on the site or in the stream, you're the product.
I would add that even if you do pay to get on the site, you're often the product.
Patrick at November 28, 2018 10:49 AM
Yep.
Conan the Grammarian at November 28, 2018 11:03 AM
They should have stayed off Twitch. People don't want to hear about commenting careers, either.
Behind Elizabeth Nolan Brown's remark is the usual female conceit that women should be exempt from enforcement of the law.
They intruded on gamer space to sell nudes. The people don't want them. The girls selling nudies are the invaders and the aggressors. Only someone who is committed to cultural marxist victimology would see the nudie girls as victims here for having to follow the rules.
The feminist cry of sexist usually is here seen as a retreat after she attacked first, like claiming "you can't hit a girl" after she hits you first. Men don't have to accept being your tampon.
El Verde Loco at November 28, 2018 11:50 AM
Men don't have to accept being your tampon.
They don't?
— Camilla Parker-Bowles
Kevin at November 28, 2018 12:32 PM
Elizabeth Nolan Brown has been a pretty good advocate for libertarian positions of all stripes. She's one of the people at Reason who are leading the charge against the moral panic that is trying to equate all of prostitution with sex trafficking. I take Crid's point about this, but let's have some priorities. Prostitutes and their patrons are not going to be the end of civilization. I will say of Brown that she did a poor job of researching this particular article; interviewing a few of the thot-warriors would have given her a different perspective. Beware of slotting everything according to your own narrative.
Sort of related: I just finished reading Meaghan Murphy's article at Quilette about her Twitter banning for saying "Men aren't women". And while her statement is true, she goes on to blame the whole brouhaha on... you guessed it... heterosexual men. The TERF perspective is exposed, and it's the same old story: All of those Marxist privilege-demanding trans activities are -- surprise! -- just evil heterosexual men under false flags Typical male behavior, right? Talk about slotting into a narrative. The penis tells all, according to the feminists. Based on this, I have totally lost interest in their plight and I'm not going to lift a finger to assist them. I now see it as like the Iran-Iraq War: I want both sides to lose.
Cousin Dave at November 28, 2018 1:15 PM
Snitch if you want. Hot women are still going to be hot, and if they are careful to conserve their assets, they will always be better off than the snitch.
Taxed or not.
Meanwhile -- I had never realized so many hot women were a "Public Figure" before Facebook...
...what do the snitches want to do with foreign modeling accounts, like Kounelli Photography?
Radwaste at November 28, 2018 4:45 PM
"...what do the snitches want to do with foreign modeling accounts, like Kounelli Photography?"
Well Rad, they want them to not put spam all over unrelated message boards. And that is pretty much it.
Ben at November 29, 2018 6:23 AM
"The page specifically notes that it's interested in situations involving "a significant Federal tax issue"--i.e., not someone making a few hundred unreported dollars per year"
Not in my experience. I failed to report nine ($9.00) of income one year and the IRS attempted to fine me over $900 in fees and penalties. I fought it for six months, finally got it dropped - and then I was audited every year until I handed over all my tax prep duties to a pro - at which point they immediately stopped the audits.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at November 29, 2018 12:35 PM
That is my experience too Gog.
One year my parents screwed up and paid too much capital gains tax. So they got flagged and an auditor came to visit. He didn't know why they got flagged (and made that pretty obvious) and then he wandered off into crazy witch hunt land. Tried claiming my sister didn't exit. Wanted my parents to hand over all copies of their tax returns and receipts (and then claimed he never got the copies from them even though it was certified mail). Was very interested in who mowed their lawn. My dad finally figured out the IRS owed him a couple hundred dollars. Bam, that guy was gone as fast as he could run.
They say this is the kinder gentler IRS. All I can figure is that it may be better to have your balls cut off than to have all your fingers crushed one at a time. But personally I'd rather avoid both. Kinder doesn't appear to be that kind.
Ben at November 29, 2018 9:17 PM
Interesting.
I'm dealing with my brother's estate and was notified by the IRS that he had a $3,000 refund coming from 2014. After not receiving it for six weeks, I telephoned the IRS and was told that they did not receive his 2013 return and would need me to prepare one with the income information they would send me before they could release the 2014 refund.
That IRS-supplied W-2 information conveniently did not include any state tax withholding amount, which means the estate would owe the IRS at least $5,000, using the IRS-supplied information as the basis of the reconstructed filing.
The funny thing is, the state Dept. of Revenue told me over the phong that they did receive a 2013 return. To complete and file a state return, he had to file a federal return. So, what's really going on here? I'm guessing the IRS is playing games in order to avoid paying a $3,000 refund.
So, according to my CPA, I can drop the matter and let the IRS keep the $3,000 or I can fight it and possibly open a can of worms by asking the state for a copy of his 2013 state and federal returns. What if they did not, in fact, receive a 2013 return? My brother was notoriously bad about government paperwork. Don't get me started on my adventures with the DMV. By law, I have to close the estate in less than three months anyway, so I'm inclined to drop the matter.
Conan the Grammarian at December 1, 2018 1:56 PM
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