Can We Please Have Our Due Process Back?
Wendy McElroy wrote on April 8 that people like me -- "advocates of due process," as she puts it -- are looking hopefully to Attorney General Barr to stop the disgusting rollback of constitutional protections on college campuses. Even the DOJ has gotten into this rollback -- with a campaign for "Believing":
Start by Believing Day was observed on April 3rd--the first Wednesday of every April. Start by Believing is a Department of Justice (DOJ) funded drive to transform American police procedure so that accusations of sexual abuse are met with belief and those accused are not presumed innocent until proven guilty. The attitude of "believe the victim" has ruled campus hearings on sexual assault for decades. It is spreading to police departments. This is a logical progression as campus hearings commonly share proceedings in which an accused has received no due process with prosecutors who pursue criminal charges.
I "believe." I believe in due process, in the right to be considered innocent until proven guilty. I have great sympathy for victims of any crime -- including people who are raped. (A vast number of men are actually raped every year, but we don't take that into account, because most of these men are in prison -- where we owe them our protection, because being raped is not part of their sentence. If we want to have a justice system, no matter how heinous somebody's crime was, it is deeply unjust for us to permit conditions that allow them to be raped in prison.)
And the consequences of the other kind of "believing" -- believing the victim as the default (rather than looking to see what the evidence says). McElroy continues:
Matt Rolph dramatizes the impact on real human beings. The 22-year-old sobbed as he spoke to the New York state paper that independently investigated an accusation of rape against him. The paper and a jury found him not guilty. But the campus hearing, at which he was refused the presence of a lawyer, found him guilty. "It hurts so much that anyone can just google my name and think that I'm a monster," Rolph declared, "because they don't know that there was no evidence." On course to graduate within a few months, Rolph was expelled from Hobart College due to a complaint by an accuser whose identity remains confidential. He is a broken young man.The underlying issue in cases like Rolph's is due process. It is jeopardized, if not destroyed, by expanding the "guilty until proven innocent" approach into police departments and courtrooms. Those who champion due process have reason for optimism, however. The recent appointment of Barr as AG has raised hopes that the DOJ will reaffirm traditional principles of justice, especially the presumption of innocence. Start by Believing is a test case.
All in all, as McElroy writes, "The DOJ's funding of a project that rejects due process should be abandoned."
This is bully "justice." If you are truly for human rights, you are for rights for all people -- including people accused of a crime. Including men accused of a crime.
If you are not for the rights of the accused, when the accused is male; you are not for human rights; you are small and hateful and backward, but working under the cover of human rights.








Feminists and liberals hate men, especially white men. By destroying due process they can ruin white men's lives with minimal effort. If they had to go to a real court they would need real evidence and also might face consequences, however minimal, if they were caught lying.
As an added bonus drumming up rape hysteria creats class conflict (in a Marxist sense) between white women and white men, which means less white babies. Which feminists want.
Feminists don't actually care about rape. So talking about men being the victims of rape does not sway them. If feminists actually cared about rape they would not spend most of their time attacking white men, they would focus on Islam.
I said it before and I'll say it again; feminism makes the most sense when you realize two things:
1) Feminists don't care about women, they just hate men (mostly the White kind)
2) Feminists are motivated by their sexual failure; just like an incel hates the the hot women who won't fuck him the feminist rages against the college chad who won't commit to her.
To answer your question. No you can't have your due process back because liberatrians and the respectable right do not know how to engage in EFFECTIVE political action. Case in point all the Cathy Young and Roaby Soave articles in the world (who have done good work exposing false rape cases) have not stopped the errosion of due process.
The left is able to destroy due process because liberals actually care about controlling instituions like universities. And once in controll they keep out right wingers by being extremely intolerant of anyone who disagrees a little bit with liberal dogma. All the Cathy Young articles in the world are useless against such a stratagy.
Jewish Cat at April 11, 2019 11:21 PM
"If you are not for the rights of the accused, when the accused is male; you are not for human rights; you are small and hateful and backward, but working under the cover of human rights."
--Amy
Tell this to a feminist and they will laugh at you. Ya they know they're not for human rights. They only claimed to be for human rights to trick suckers into getting what they want.
Jewish Cat at April 12, 2019 1:20 AM
"If you are not for the rights of the accused, when the accused is male; you are not for human rights; you are small and hateful and backward,..."
Well put.
dee nile at April 12, 2019 7:18 AM
I am reservedly hopeful about Barr. But Trump hasn't had a lot of luck with AGs of late. Sessions was not a good choice.
Ben at April 12, 2019 7:37 AM
Being against due process and free speech are now core liberal positions. I can almost guarantee that every major democratic POTUS candidate are for hate speech laws and campus kangaroo courts. As someone who values civil liberties this trend has been very discouraging too me. Too bad Republicans have their own blind spots when it comes to civil liberties.
Shtetl G at April 12, 2019 8:35 AM
Rule of thumb: if someone says "I'm for X, but" means they don't actually care about X. I'll hand it over to the Iron Chancellor, Herr Bismark
I R A Darth Aggie at April 12, 2019 8:46 AM
Wonderfully, powerfully stated, Amy. As for rape accusations, the dirty secret is that allegations of rape and sexual assault are NOT uniquely believable. In fact, false reports are common. It's hard to put a percentage on it but it's certainly far far higher than the usually-quoted 2%. Why would women lie, or even children? Same sort of reasons that you will see in ugly divorce and custody proceedings; the same lack of morals that results in people making outright serious and completely false accusations to gain advantage in these situations can result in false reports to police. I say this as a career prosecutor and as a woman who has been molested as a child (briefly, thank G-d) and who was almost rape-raped in college (the jerk's roommate came in unexpectedly and so the jerk abandoned his assault). Proven rapists and child abusers deserve severe sanctions and victims deserve protection. People who report being raped deserve to have their accusations heard respectfully and to have a full investigation; they are not entitled to belief and anyone accused deserves to be presumed innocent with 100% adherence to all the civil rights protection that entails.
RigelDog at April 12, 2019 8:51 AM
An example of mob justice: lynchings. Do we really want to bring lynchings back? The reason so much of this is going on is people being lazy and in a hurry. Real justice takes time and is hard work.
On campus, the ideology of the Left has led to women being coached that if the guy didn't send flowers the next day then what happened last year was rape. This is even when the woman undressed herself, was in a dorm where people would come running if she screamed, etc. So not rape. Just a relationship that did not turn out.
cc at April 12, 2019 9:27 AM
"Can We Please Have Our Due Process Back?"
Well ... if we can grope you in the airports, seize any valuables in your car or wallet that we want for ourselves, copy and save all of your calls, texts, emails, and web browsing history, and take half of your income in taxes for secret programs that you don't get to know anything about ... maybe.
But until we decide you'll just have to behave yourselves and not spill our secret crimes to the world.
Lookin' at you, Assange!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at April 12, 2019 11:20 AM
Lynchings are sooooooo 19th century. Lenin and Stalin figured out the acceptable way to railroad people: put a veneer of process on it. The college rape accusers and prosecutors operate by a detailed set of processes. It's a completely unfair process, but because it has manuals and forms and stuff, the people who do it claim that it's impartial. That isn't what "due process" means, of course, but too many people can't tell the difference.
Cousin Dave at April 12, 2019 12:49 PM
> I said it before and
> I'll say it again
Don't. Ain't helping.
Crid at April 13, 2019 12:18 AM
It isn't the job of colleges to find out if you're guilty of rape, that's the job of the legal system.
Colleges should put in place whatever safety measures they see fit to keep their college running smoothly.
NicoleK at April 13, 2019 7:06 AM
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