> Children love drag queens the
> way they love clowns or circuses
> or Halloween or live Disney
> characters in Disney World.

Preposterous.

Sullivan is a blithe, twitching loon.

This is just so fucked up.

> I assume Ahmari believes that
> drag queens are some kind of
> sexual thing

Why shouldn't he?

> In essence, drag queens
> are clowns.

Says who?


I think "Drag Queen Story Hour" is a fine thing to be annoyed or upset about. Maybe both.

People in small towns in the Heartland don't want drag queen story hours in the public library. They're not against drag queens per se, but they're against drag queens reading to children in their particular small town.

I suspect drag queens reading to children is simply a metaphor for liberal east and left-coast values, and these small towns want nothing whatever to do with liberal east and left-coast values. No, they don't. Not at all. The drag queens also serve as a metaphor for how the left constantly seeks to impose its values on the unwilling.

Leander, Texas, a suburb of Austin, was compelled to rent a meeting room in their library for drag-queen story hour. The Leander City Council was not happy, especially since they had to foot the bill for the extra security. As I predicted to my wife, they simply closed the library meeting rooms to everyone, including a small church without a sanctuary of their own. They'll be using the meeting rooms for storage.

Liberals just don't get it.

Children love drag queens the way they love clowns or circuses or Halloween or live Disney characters in Disney World.

As a kid, I never liked any of those things - except Halloween. Loved Halloween. Hated costumed characters who tried too hard to engage me. Was creeped out by clowns and bored by circuses.

Why do you think so many horror movies involve clowns? Children are creeped out by clowns - It (Pennywise), the clown scene in Potergeist, Batman's Joker, John Wayne Gacy, etc. Clowns are creepy.

A 2008 English study revealed that very few children actually like clowns:

"We found that clowns are universally disliked by children. Some found them quite frightening and unknowable."

"Very few children like clowns. They are unfamiliar and come from a different era. They don't look funny, they just look odd."

I loved the drag queen on PeeWee Herman's old TV show, and I loved the drag queens on the West Side Highway and thereabouts in New York, who used to rate my outfits when I walked by. ~ Amy

You were an adult. To an adult, exaggerated dress-up is campy whereas to a child, it's creepy.

I think "Drag Queen Story Hour" is a fine thing to be annoyed or upset about. Maybe both. ~ Crid at September 14, 2019 3:20 AM

I'm still trying to figure out how drag queens and children's story hour got combined in the first place. Seems kinda forced - like someone trying create something that will piss off the hick in the sticks; that will draw out Republicans and evangelicals.

They tried this in Houston but had to shut it down bc the guy who started the program, and at least one other drag queen, turned out to be convicted pedophiles. Additionally, there is a most definitely a sexual component to drag queens. I just read a piece in Medium last week by a guy who does drag and is uncomfortable with drag being taken over by children. So, no this isn’t just harmless fun and you don’t have be a parent or a religious nut to oppose it.

> trying create something that
> will piss off the hick in the
> sticks

Absolutely, absolutely. You're correct.

But for fucked-up-edness of this magnitude, I detect an enormous amount of simple naivete as well. It's the kind of thing we've seen from Patrick a hundred times over the years. He'll pout and scream and throw his strained carrots because the rest of us won't admit that we secretly know exactly what he's talking about and have exactly the same responses... He's got far too much invested in his fantasies —borne perhaps of abject loneliness— that his weepy, sullen heart is the concentric center of the human experience.

That's exactly the vibe of idiocy i detect in the passage Amy's cited. (Perhaps Pat & Andy have other thins in common.)

"Children love drag queens"? That's over-the-top demented. A crushingly solitary, socialization-crippling childhood is the most generous excuse imaginable for such a presumption.

Whatever such people say about diversity, the magnitude of their eager detachment tells us so very much more.

I mean, there's an infinitely larger body of evidence to suggest that children naturally "love" handguns and firearms of all types… But who'd bother to ask Sullivan if he agrees?

What Roadgeek said. You want to do this in New York or LA, whatever. But respect people who don't want it.

Both Sullivan and Ahmari are loons. No this isn't the end of civilization and no it isn't harmless. Just leave people alone who want to be left alone. This is exhibit a million and something of why you got Trump. And why the next Republican president will be a Trump knockoff.

Funny the things different eras try to keep away from kids. I woke up this morning remembering a short story I first read in an old anthology when I was a preteen called *Dead Men on Parade*, Googled it . Author Irving Crump from BoysLife Magazine 1929.
I read it mid 60s in an anthology called Ghosts,Ghosts from my ELEMENTARY school library.Very
creepy. Summary: deep sea diver, helmet, boots, airhose type recoverng shipwreck victims from inside a sunken freighter and cuurents make 5 corpses follow him. Might not be the creepiest story in the book.
Point: this was appropriate children's reading up through at least the 1970s. Today there would be parents trying to get everyone from the librarian, the child's teacher, the principal,to probably the district superintendent fired in retaliation for their delicate child's damage.
Two BTWs: boys AND girls read for pleasure then and
I taught elementary school off and on (time with my own children as a SAHM) from 1980 to 2012 and there have always been crazy and/or completely uninterested parents That's how I see most of these online lynch mob leaders-from a safe distance.

Today there would be parents trying to get everyone from the librarian, the child's teacher, the principal,to probably the district superintendent fired in retaliation for their delicate child's damage.
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Does that mean you can't find Edgar Allan Poe's stories in an elementary school library these days? I'll be surprised, if so.

Nerp. My kid ain’t seeing a drag queen. We have conversations that come up about boys marrying boys and girls marrying girls. That is difficult enough that I can’t even imagine the shitstorm of questions that would follow such a spectacle (and it is just that. A spectacle). All of which would
Involve her (or really any kid) asking questions that would lead to a discussion about “whhhhyyy” they do this or that. I’m finding it hard for my parental brain to bypass the conversation about what these people’s lives look like and how this is about who has sex with who.

And just so we are clear. Most kids hate clowns. My kid does. I did. My husband does. They aren’t allowed in our house.

Homosexuals are more likely to abuse children then heterosexuals.

Homosexuals are more likely to have been abused in the past than heterosexuals

This is why people are weary with the gay stuff promoted to kids. The born this way meme was a lie.

The same people who promote drag queen story time promote actual drag kids which is obviously sexual abuse.

Liberals promote this stuff because they want to increase the number of trans and gay kids.

I supported gay rights in the nineties but the Christians turned out to be right. The gay rights movement is coming for the kids.

Also slluvens take is as usual stupid. If drag queens are just clowns why not scrap drag queen story time and have clown story time? The left clearly wants to introduce children to sexual deviants.

You know what the difference is between a circus and political/cultural indoctrination?

At the Circus you are encouraged to point and laugh.

If this would not be the case at drag queen story hour, it isn’t a circus. It is force fed “defining deviancy down”.

I think EA Poe may be safe but Mark Twain definitely is not.
I doubt anyone below high school is reading Poe. And to be clear I seriously doubt that most of the complaining types are reading much of anything.

So you can't find "Tom Sawyer" at the school library if you're in 4th grade?

It wouldn't surprise me TOO much (that book is clearly racist in a way that "Huck Finn" is not, but I don't remember hearing that the former is commonly banned).

At any rate, "The Tell-Tale Heart" is pretty scary - and easy enough to read.

By "complaining types," I assume you mean the parents and not kids who hate to read anything?

Andrew Sullivan?

Is this the same "clown" (see what I did there? Sullivan isn't even a drag queen; but, he is a clown) who claimed that Palin was not the mother of her son Trig? But, in fact, claimed that Palin was covering for her daughter Bristol who Sullivan claimed was the real mother?

IMO, not much of what he has to say is of any value. He turned into an asshat a few years back; so, now like I wish Hillary would do is that he would just shut up and go away.

Eight-year-old drag queen "Queen Lactacia" posing with an adult drag queen:

https://triggerreset.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/lactatianew.jpg?w=900

Eleven-year-old drag queen dances in a bar while men cheer and whistle and give him dollar bills. Would it be OK if an eleven-year-old girl dances like this in a bar while adult men whistle and cheer and give her dollar bills?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=majcQ54vlDs

Ten-year-old drag queen: Just an innocent child dressing up as a clown? This child performs in bars for the pleasure of adult men.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/02/16/47B3758000000578-5228857-Amazing_Desmond_Napoles_10_from_Brooklyn_New_York_City_has_found-m-36_1514911647423.jpg

The purpose of drag queen story hour is to "capture the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood" and "give kids... unabashedly queer role models."

https://www.dragqueenstoryhour.org/

Role model: a person looked to by others as an example to be imitated.

In other words, to exploit the impressionability of young children so that the things in the previous three posts become common and acceptable.

You attract an awful lot of social conservatives to your blog, don't you? Where are all the libertarians?

— Reporting for duty.

I’m not sure what that crack about social conservatives is supposed to mean, but here is a link to the Medium article. Please read the final paragraph, where the gay man makes a solid case that the world should include adult spheres for adult things and child friendly spheres for children. I agree with him. The whole thing is worth reading.

https://medium.com/@kevan.copeland/do-children-belong-in-drag-culture-12376e1b7334

I’m not sure what that crack about social conservatives is supposed to mean, but here is a link to the Medium article. Please read the final paragraph, where the gay man makes a solid case that the world should include adult spheres for adult things and child friendly spheres for children. I agree with him. The whole thing is worth reading.

https://medium.com/@kevan.copeland/do-children-belong-in-drag-culture-12376e1b7334

Dan T.
Where are all the libertarians?
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Who says libertarians agree with child abuse?

In unguarded moments, drag queen participants have used the word "grooming" to describe what they are doing.

In another incident, photos emerged of kids encouraged to hug and loll about with their drag queen story-tellers - and then the photos were quickly thrown down the media memory hole.

Time to wake up.
It was never about liberating anyone, it was about destroying the family.

Marxist-socialist thinkers always said that the family and religion were barriers to the power of the state. They said they would do this, then they went and did it.

Similarly, feminism began as a "liberation" movement - but it's mostly liberated children from the stability of fathers, while making women dependent on social welfare (see, Marxist-socialist) - and is now asserting that all normal hetero sex is rape.

Never about "empowerment".
Never about "liberation".

So you can't find "Tom Sawyer" at the school library if you're in 4th grade?
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But more importantly, can middle-schoolers get it at school? Or do book reports on it, if they choose?

Which is not to say that parents don't have an obligation to talk seriously and regularly with their kids about racism, so kids will recognize it and disapprove of it even when the parents aren't there, whether we're talking about classic novels or prejudiced playmates.

Btw, I showed a wonderful 1930s comedy to an 8-year-old boy who definitely appreciated it - especially the fiery, domineering Adolphe Menjou - but after watching another character, an illiterate comic thug (played by the Bronx-born Lionel Stander) he said something to the effect of "that has to be a black guy." I coldly said: "There are no black people in this movie."

(I wasn't about to give him a lecture on the issue, but I did tell his mother in private. I just wish I'd known in advance that Stander's family was Russian, since the boy's father is Russian.)

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/74

Tom Sawyer free at Gutenberg

If the drag queens were simply reading Alice in Wonderland, I would just think they were funny people. But they're introducing these kids to rather mature concepts, such as gender confusion and sexuality questioning.

Child abuse.

I'm sorry Gracious Hostess, but I think you are missing the problems with DQSH. First, Drag has always been understood only as an ADULT phenomenon. Whatever irony and camp underlie Drag, it's sensible only to adults and that's never been in question. Drag is burlesque, drag is adult, drag is usually performed along with at a minimum sexual innuendo and often with explicit raunchy material. Isn't the first question therefore, why is DQSH even a thing? Where on earth did this movement come from, full-sprung like Athena from the forehead of Zeus? Were children and their parents clamoring for more Drag? Nope. Instead, as noted above, DQSH is an organized movement with a mission statement as follows: The purpose of drag queen story hour is to "capture the imagination and play of the gender fluidity of childhood" and "give kids... unabashedly queer role models.
They have a freakin' mission statement that has nothing to do with some sort of coincidental fun cultural trend, as though libraries were suddenly presenting story hours given by readers dressed up as Beanie Babies or Pokemon characters. They want to be role models, they want kids to emulate them and question their gender/sex. They say so! Will you not take them at their word?