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Seriously the finest. If you hate Hillary, you'll love this podcast. If you hate Trump, you'll love this podcast.
The first fifty minutes (of the 2:01:00 version) is chatter about Los Angeles, and can be skipped if you don't care. But the rest of it is clear-eyed and often revelatory.
...Amazingly, New York is just one of 12 states that use the same scheme to deprive children of their fathers.
In New York and 11 other states, if a mother is accused of abuse or neglect but the father is not, and he is not married to her, he must prove that he is a parent in his own right — otherwise he will not have a say in whether the child is put up for adoption. In most of those states, including New York, proof means paying child support — not to the mother but to the government agency that has taken the child.
Unsurprisingly, the zeal with which New York (and the other 11 states) shanghai kids from their fathers is rooted in their desire to channel them into the adoption system. New York of course was the first state in the nation to enact a putative father registry whose entire purpose is to remove unmarried fathers from the adoption loop. Forcing adoption on kids with fathers who are ready, willing and able to parent them is, as I’ve said many times before, bad for kids and their dads, but far worse, deprives children who do need adoption of adoptive parents.
That zeal produced the 1980 law in question...
...So yes, the law is all about facilitating adoption. The problem is that, if its aim is truly to help adopt children who’ve been “languishing in foster care” for years, then why be so secret? After all, how hard could it be to inform a father like Ping that he needs to pay the foster care agency if he’s to preserve his parental rights? But New York doesn’t do that. Instead it hides the ball in the hopes that the Pings of the world won’t find it. Apparently many don’t...
...The point being that, if a father is fit and willing to parent his child, then why force it into the adoption system? There are far more children in the U.S. and the world who need adoption than there are qualified parents who want to adopt. So by forcing adoption on a child like Ping’s daughter, who had a good father who wanted to care for her, another child somewhere, who does need adoptive parents, will continue “languishing in foster care.” In short, the excuse offered by defenders of the New York law is a fraud and Ping’s case proves it.
It’s long past time that New York and other states stopped lining the pockets of adoption agencies and lawyers at the expense of children and unmarried fathers.
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What caught my eye, among other things, was the line "There are far more children in the U.S. and the world who need adoption than there are qualified parents who want to adopt."
Funny how so many people don't like to talk about that. Many even try to argue there's a SHORTAGE of children to adopt. Healthy babies, maybe. Not other children. The day that truly changes will be the day that no young adult has any memory of seeing features on TV or in the newspapers about foster kids begging to be adopted.
lenona
at October 19, 2019 10:01 AM
And at least half the time, in my experience, those foster kids are not black. Or even part black.
Have you ever tried adopting any Lenona? Most places it is pretty much impossible. Mom does rehab and sobers up for a month, bam, back to square one trying to adopt someone else. The adoption system pretty much doesn't work. The best you can hope for is fostering.
Ben
at October 19, 2019 1:28 PM
> The man’s adorable
Oh FFS! Get a room!
Feebie
at October 19, 2019 3:24 PM
Feebie, please show me on this doll where Tom Brady hurt you.
Ben, you're the only one I ever heard of who claims that it's too difficult for a WILLING adoptive parent to adopt a foster child. At least one famous adoptive parent - Dan Savage - says that it would actually have been much easier for him or the other adoptive parents he met to have asked for a foster child to adopt, rather than a newborn. But...like so many would-be parents, they didn't want a foster child, with all its baggage, in the first place. (Not to mention those who use IVF, sperm clinics, or surrogates - anything but adoption! There goes another horde of parents who, in the past, would have tried to adopt. So there's less competition among those who do try to adopt.)
At any rate, foster kids who appear on TV and the newspapers every single week mostly don't get to make an appearance until they ARE legally free to be adopted. Even so, they still have to beg.
lenona
at October 20, 2019 11:50 AM
I have a relative who tried to adopt. Eventually they succeeded but most of the kids they tried to adopt the mother would sober up and derail the process every few months. Those were older kids. In the end the kid they managed to adopt was a baby. In that case both parents were in jail so they couldn't interfere. I have older friends who ended up fostering permanently because adopting even older kids just wasn't an option. These stories cover two states, Texas and Illinois. Maybe being famous like Dan Savage gives him a different take on things.
I do agree it is easier to get an older kid than a new born. But even older kids it is very difficult.
The man's adorable.
Crid at October 19, 2019 5:08 AM
This is the finest podcast.
Seriously the finest. If you hate Hillary, you'll love this podcast. If you hate Trump, you'll love this podcast.
The first fifty minutes (of the 2:01:00 version) is chatter about Los Angeles, and can be skipped if you don't care. But the rest of it is clear-eyed and often revelatory.
I took two pages of notes.
The finest podcast.
Crid at October 19, 2019 5:45 AM
This is a better link, though: Eric Weinstein and Bret Easton Ellis.
You want the version that runs 2:01:00.
Crid at October 19, 2019 5:50 AM
Sometimes you need a petite woman to do this kind of job:
https://twitter.com/aibarra/status/1184808414909812736
Sixclaws at October 19, 2019 6:40 AM
An animal-world WhoKnew.
Crid at October 19, 2019 7:50 AM
The New Face of Butthurt.
Crid at October 19, 2019 7:50 AM
Anybuddy remember Pirate Jo?
Crid at October 19, 2019 8:37 AM
When you're the first born but your little brother grows taller than you.
https://twitter.com/BeastOfWood/status/1185211217129824257
Sixclaws at October 19, 2019 8:56 AM
Amy won't agree with this, but it has an Alkonian melody.
(Alkaline? Alkaloid?)
Crid at October 19, 2019 8:58 AM
Funny, Lokomotivführer translates to Engine Driver but she's ignoring this altogether.
https://twitter.com/KrawallBambi/status/1184536350021816320
Sixclaws at October 19, 2019 9:15 AM
From family lawyer/blogger Robert Franklin:
https://nationalparentsorganization.org/blog/24460-new-york-lawsuit-seeks-equality-for-unmarried-fathers
From the second half:
...Amazingly, New York is just one of 12 states that use the same scheme to deprive children of their fathers.
In New York and 11 other states, if a mother is accused of abuse or neglect but the father is not, and he is not married to her, he must prove that he is a parent in his own right — otherwise he will not have a say in whether the child is put up for adoption. In most of those states, including New York, proof means paying child support — not to the mother but to the government agency that has taken the child.
Unsurprisingly, the zeal with which New York (and the other 11 states) shanghai kids from their fathers is rooted in their desire to channel them into the adoption system. New York of course was the first state in the nation to enact a putative father registry whose entire purpose is to remove unmarried fathers from the adoption loop. Forcing adoption on kids with fathers who are ready, willing and able to parent them is, as I’ve said many times before, bad for kids and their dads, but far worse, deprives children who do need adoption of adoptive parents.
That zeal produced the 1980 law in question...
...So yes, the law is all about facilitating adoption. The problem is that, if its aim is truly to help adopt children who’ve been “languishing in foster care” for years, then why be so secret? After all, how hard could it be to inform a father like Ping that he needs to pay the foster care agency if he’s to preserve his parental rights? But New York doesn’t do that. Instead it hides the ball in the hopes that the Pings of the world won’t find it. Apparently many don’t...
...The point being that, if a father is fit and willing to parent his child, then why force it into the adoption system? There are far more children in the U.S. and the world who need adoption than there are qualified parents who want to adopt. So by forcing adoption on a child like Ping’s daughter, who had a good father who wanted to care for her, another child somewhere, who does need adoptive parents, will continue “languishing in foster care.” In short, the excuse offered by defenders of the New York law is a fraud and Ping’s case proves it.
It’s long past time that New York and other states stopped lining the pockets of adoption agencies and lawyers at the expense of children and unmarried fathers.
___________________________________
What caught my eye, among other things, was the line "There are far more children in the U.S. and the world who need adoption than there are qualified parents who want to adopt."
Funny how so many people don't like to talk about that. Many even try to argue there's a SHORTAGE of children to adopt. Healthy babies, maybe. Not other children. The day that truly changes will be the day that no young adult has any memory of seeing features on TV or in the newspapers about foster kids begging to be adopted.
lenona at October 19, 2019 10:01 AM
And at least half the time, in my experience, those foster kids are not black. Or even part black.
lenona at October 19, 2019 10:18 AM
It seems like Hillary is now seeing Russian operatives in her soup.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at October 19, 2019 10:44 AM
Someone should go to jail. But probably won't. The taxpayers will be left with the bill.
https://thebaltimorepost.com/baltimore-county-schools-destroyed-accounting-records-amid-high-profile-procurement-audit-and-directive-to-stop-all-record-destruction/
I R A Darth Aggie at October 19, 2019 10:46 AM
https://twitter.com/skjultster/status/1185284760970711041
I R A Darth Aggie at October 19, 2019 10:53 AM
Egg McMuffin believes Hillary.
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/345797/
I R A Darth Aggie at October 19, 2019 10:56 AM
Is it just me or the rude, screeching ones are either Millennials or Baby Boomers?
https://twitter.com/SergioGor/status/1185329130922860544
Sixclaws at October 19, 2019 12:06 PM
Have you ever tried adopting any Lenona? Most places it is pretty much impossible. Mom does rehab and sobers up for a month, bam, back to square one trying to adopt someone else. The adoption system pretty much doesn't work. The best you can hope for is fostering.
Ben at October 19, 2019 1:28 PM
> The man’s adorable
Oh FFS! Get a room!
Feebie at October 19, 2019 3:24 PM
Feebie, please show me on this doll where Tom Brady hurt you.
I mean, at least Crid and Tom do not flip pets.
mpetrie98 at October 19, 2019 5:16 PM
Hollywood really should watch its effing language
mpetrie98 at October 19, 2019 5:17 PM
H/T to Amy on Twitter for showing me that, once again, modern feminism ruins everything that it touches.
mpetrie98 at October 19, 2019 5:18 PM
Feel-good story:
Runner With Parkinson’s Bangs Out 351 Burpees on Way to Finishing Chicago Marathon
mpetrie98 at October 19, 2019 6:19 PM
Ben, you're the only one I ever heard of who claims that it's too difficult for a WILLING adoptive parent to adopt a foster child. At least one famous adoptive parent - Dan Savage - says that it would actually have been much easier for him or the other adoptive parents he met to have asked for a foster child to adopt, rather than a newborn. But...like so many would-be parents, they didn't want a foster child, with all its baggage, in the first place. (Not to mention those who use IVF, sperm clinics, or surrogates - anything but adoption! There goes another horde of parents who, in the past, would have tried to adopt. So there's less competition among those who do try to adopt.)
At any rate, foster kids who appear on TV and the newspapers every single week mostly don't get to make an appearance until they ARE legally free to be adopted. Even so, they still have to beg.
lenona at October 20, 2019 11:50 AM
I have a relative who tried to adopt. Eventually they succeeded but most of the kids they tried to adopt the mother would sober up and derail the process every few months. Those were older kids. In the end the kid they managed to adopt was a baby. In that case both parents were in jail so they couldn't interfere. I have older friends who ended up fostering permanently because adopting even older kids just wasn't an option. These stories cover two states, Texas and Illinois. Maybe being famous like Dan Savage gives him a different take on things.
I do agree it is easier to get an older kid than a new born. But even older kids it is very difficult.
Ben at October 20, 2019 3:41 PM
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