These sounds, that baby.

This is funny typo, and this is one of America's great office buildings.

Someone should file a records request for this guy's performance evaluations. Also: how did he "fool" the state of Florida?

Investigators said he managed to work for Lakeland Electric as a turbine engineer, and then as a supervisor for six years before anyone noticed something was up.

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Police said Bretz's transcripts and professional engineer state license were all made up.

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“It’s not good. But not only did he fool us, he fooled the state of Florida and he fooled employers in Illinois. He was good at what he did,” said Cook.

https://www.fox13news.com/news/lakeland-electric-engineer-faked-credentials-pretended-to-be-mayor-in-email-detectives-say

Here's a place you can check if someone is a PE in the state of Florida. You do have the Internet in Lakeland?

https://fbpe.org/licensure/licensee-search/

You may be surprised IRA but a lot of employers when they say they are going to do a background check on you don't actually do it. There are also a lot of background check services that don't really check much. Same with references.

One job I worked at one of the technicians was fired from his previous job for dealing drugs on company property. Got arrested and all that though he didn't do any jail time. When the boss found out he asked him why he didn't tell him. Old Rick reasonably replied, 'Would you have hired me if I did?'

Oh.

https://cosmosmagazine.com/biology/australian-raptors-start-fires-to-flush-out-prey

You may be surprised IRA but a lot of employers when they say they are going to do a background check on you don't actually do it. There are also a lot of background check services that don't really check much. Same with references.

Not really. Doing those checks is an awful lot like work, which most people don't really want to do. If you're providing that as a service for money you're starting to venture into fraud - which depends on what you're actually promising.

As I recall, the Navy Yard shooter was background checked by a private service that either didn't do the check, or did a very basic one. I'm left wondering if the Navy decided to pull that back in-house?

In the case at hand, how long does it take to see if he actually has PE certificate? on the other hand, he wasn't fired for incompetence. If he hadn't applied for a new job, he'd still be flying under the radar.

To a considerable extent, the PE license is just credentialism. The Saturn V rockets were built and sent to the Moon without a PE anywhere in sight.

Peer review?

https://nypost.com/2019/11/02/stanford-professor-who-changed-america-with-just-one-study-was-also-a-liar/

To a considerable extent, the PE license is just credentialism.

Yes. But again: how long does it take to check? obviously it wasn't important for the job. And thus my desire to see at least the summary of his performance reviews. I'm going to go out on a limb and say he wasn't in the dog house, otherwise I don't think he would have applied for a new position.

The Saturn V rockets were built and sent to the Moon without a PE anywhere in sight.

Most of those folks could have written the PE test.

Avian arsonists.

To a considerable extent, the PE license is just credentialism. The Saturn V rockets were built and sent to the Moon without a PE anywhere in sight.

Cousin Dave at November 4, 2019 7:48 AM

And the Soviet ones that exploded on the launch pad too!

To a certain extent I agree. In almost every field except for Civil Engineering. Plans for shit that could kill people due to faulty design, It is good to know where the buck stops. It is a test, which is hard, but maintaining the licensee is a paperwork nightmare that is really unnecessary for most engineers

"The Porch Pirate of Potrero Hill Can’t Believe It Came to This"

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/stealing-amazon-packages-age-nextdoor/598156/

One good point in the story is that the victims didn't seem to care much about the OTHER porch pirates in that area who might be getting off easy because the victims are apparently determined to blame ONE person for almost all the thefts.

But...maybe there aren't that many other porch pirates in that neighborhood.

Heard about the two-year-old jacket thief who wasn't scared when caught?

https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=Wl3AXfDDNone5gLbt4G4CQ&q=mila+jacket+monies&oq=mila+jacket+monies&gs_l=psy-ab.3...742.4195..4384...0.0..0.121.1479.15j3......0....1..gws-wiz.......0j0i131j0i10j0i3j0i324j0i22i10i30j0i22i30j33i160.8a_J-JVe6aQ&ved=0ahUKEwjw2PCDiNHlAhUJr1kKHdtbAJcQ4dUDCAg&uact=5

What doesn't get mentioned by anyone is that this goes to show that yes, pretty much ANYONE old enough to talk can and does lie when it's convenient.

Some praised the dad for talking calmly.

But I don't know why he asked "where did you buy the jacket?" (Haven't watched it yet.) Seems to me she'd have been much less likely to lie if he'd just said: "That jacket belongs to someone else. Whose jacket is it, young lady?"

There's an important difference in that style of interrogation, IMO.

PEs aren't credentialism. They signify who is legally responsible when significant injury happens. Now, that has nothing to do with the quality of the engineering. It is a legal thing not a science or engineering thing.

Are you working on a bridge, building, or other structure where people will suffer significant physical injury if it fails? Then there is a PE who signs off on the work. He may not do much of it (or any of it really). But he definitely signs off on it and is legally liable if something happens. Are you working on a cell phone, toy, downhole tool, or something similar? Then you probably aren't a PE and there isn't one who signs off on anything.

"If you're providing that as a service for money you're starting to venture into fraud - which depends on what you're actually promising." ~IRA

You hit the nail on the head with the last bit. Most services provide exactly what they promise. But if you want rigorous checking then you have to pay for it. Most aren't willing to pay. It usually isn't worth it. Even when they make you pee in a cup a lot of the time they just throw it away without checking for anything.

One place I worked at had to do urine drug test on a random basis. I think it was due to some legal settlement. This one lady in HR got 'randomly' tested every year for a decade. Of course when layoff time came she didn't get checked. Instead other people with a near 100% failure rate got hit 'randomly'.

Lenona, they had undeniable proof the woman was a thief. She was documented sealing on multiple occasions. Was she responsible for every theft, probably not. But she was the one they had proof about. And then they found that the city does nothing to stop her.

What do you want those people to do?

I'm not saying the victims did anything wrong; just that things can backfire (for more than one reason) when victims don't look for more than one culprit to blame. They could lose even more packages that way, for one thing. Plus, if they manage to find a white thief as well, that could START to weaken the black thief's defense, at least.

Beto O'Rourke is adjusting to life wihtout campaigning:

https://mobile.twitter.com/yashar/status/1191373803940667392

"that could START to weaken the black thief's defense" ~Lenona

And that is the problem right there. They have video evidence of her stealing stuff. They have her getting caught with stolen goods and drugs. They have her stealing with her daughter. How the hell does the fact that she is black excuse any of that?

They aren't saying all black people are thieves. They are saying she specifically is a thief and they have the proof to back it up. Excusing her actions because she is black is racist.

https://twitter.com/AsheSchow/status/1190755812475637760

I think the "porch pirate" should run for Congress, would fit right in. What's mine is mine, and what's yours is mine, too.

Alternatively, the victims could put an Amazon package on their door step with a glitter bomb in it. I bet she'd complain about that. One of these days, she's going to encounter someone who'll have a Popeye moment.

That's all I can stands, I can't stands no more.

Conspiracy theorists...

https://babylonbee.com/news/fringe-conspiracy-theorist-believes-epstein-committed-suicide

That's a heck of a clip. Also, I was assured that this was an unpossible outcome.

https://nypost.com/2019/11/04/pregnant-florida-mom-uses-ar-15-to-kill-home-intruder/

How the hell does the fact that she is black excuse any of that?
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No one is saying that.

What I meant was, her lawyer was exploiting some of the victims' assumptions that every time a package got stolen, his client was the one who did it. Whenever someone does that, it's too easy for the defense to accuse the victim of profiling.

(Though, in all fairness, at least one such victim, who didn't have evidence, turned out to be right. Namely, the man who lost his subscription hot sauce.)

Excerpts:

...Back in Potrero Hill, a man mistook Fairley’s sister for Fairley herself, following her down the block and berating her as she passed out fliers. “He didn’t believe me,” said Kai, who was working for a community group at the time. “I was embarrassed, mostly.” She put her hand up in front of her face as he tried to take a photo of her. Friar, Nextdoor’s CEO, said that difficulty identifying people correctly is a human problem, not one Nextdoor invented, but the company has formed an anti-racial-profiling task force and continues to update the platform to encourage users to “get out of your bird brain—that immediate response—and into your cognitive brain, to pause and ultimately make a better decision.”...

...On Nextdoor, Pease-Greene, a black woman, blasted stereotyping while making it clear that she didn’t condone any shenanigans, no matter who the perpetrator was. In a city with staggering racial disparities in its criminal-justice system—African Americans make up only about 6 percent of the population but more than half the county jail inmates—Pease-Greene was privately relieved that the city’s thieves, including those outed on Nextdoor, were of all races. “It’s sad that I have to think like that, but it’s like, oh God, thank you!” she said. “This is everybody doing it.”...

...As Banks (the lawyer) saw it, Fairley had been caught in a web of surveillance, gentrification, and racism, in which vigilante neighbors targeted her for anything that went missing, when, in fact, many other porch pirates were also stealing in Potrero. She might have stolen some items, but not everything she was being blamed for taking...

To put it another way: When trying to beat a defense lawyer, you can't be too careful.

"No one is saying that."

"if they manage to find a white thief as well ..." ~Lenona

You said it Lenona. As for the defense lawyer, they have irrefutable evidence of her committing crimes. So what if they can't nail her on everything that has ever gone missing for the last decade. They have more than enough evidence. Gentrification, poverty, yada yada. It all means nothing. She did the crime. There is no reasonable debate on that.

And of course the prosecutor doesn't care and is going to ignore the whole thing. They don't want people like you or the defense lawyer (and the people who got robbed) calling them racist just because a criminal happens to be black. The area has a culture of permissiveness for criminal activity. The people who chose to live there get what they chose.

Call me crazy but I always knew that traveling through a plasma-stagnant area only 8.6 AU wide would result in a smooth and uneventful departure from the heliopause.

I knew it.