Can a person overcome being born into a "trailer-trash" (yes, pejorative) home? Nature or nurture? The short, drug fueled life of busty porn-hottie "Chloe" Jones. (No naughty pictures, can be opened anywhere.)

http://blogs.theage.com.au/thedailytruth/archives/2006/08/a_girl_called_j.html

Fascinating excerpts:

"The Jones girls had trailer trash in their blood - their grandmother, a local beauty queen and barbiturate addict, shot herself in front of their mother when she was young. Donna Jones might have coped better in raising her own three girls had her husband been around to lend a hand"

"By all accounts, the men who took up residence in or around the family trailer in Silsbee for the next few years were far from ideal father figures. One was described by a family friend as a "visual pedophile" who would spontaneously ejaculate as he watched the young Jones girls move about the house (the other sisters deny this). And there was another, a redneck from Lumberton whose first wife had left him for a "nigger" and who openly watched porn films while the girls looked on in amusement. "

"By the time she met a young marine called Jason David Sturrock, Melinda Dee Jones already had a few suicide attempts on her record, a reputation about town as a pathological liar and a bed with her name on it at the local asylum"

Oh, it's a really big crisis.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) will fly out Sunday with a large delegation of congressional Democrats heading 3,781 miles across the Atlantic to the United Nations COP25 climate change conference in Madrid.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/12/01/pelosi-flying-out-with-democracts-to-u-n-climate-meeting-in-spain/

> No naughty pictures, can be
> opened anywhere.

Is there a point to this comment, other than marveling at the wretchedness of the live of others?

This place seems to be going toward a grim, carnival-geek direction, what with Patrick's foodpenis stories and everything Mpet links.

Yes: The humanity surrounding us is often dim and ignoble… Stipulated.

But you wouldn't want to build your consciousness out of that awareness.

"Fascinating" !

Yeah?

Here's a list of 35 myths. These are things people think are true, or things that people hope are true, but aren't actually true.

> Fascinating excerpts:

Oh, read 'em an weep.

Also, consider this tweet and the tweet it cites.

Yes, pejorative!

The popular mind is drunk on Disney affirmations of pluck & good cheer.

People are mistaken about politics, and they are mistaken about each other.

Blame Van Halen.

If I had the money & wherewithal to build from scratch, I'd do this before pouring the foundation.

(Hi Ben!)

Whoops! Sorry...

Blame Van Halen.

How to make a bureaucrat moist:

https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/1201435534557450240

'Tis the season of enduring interfaith debate.

I, personally, affirm the righteousness of the Asian Dawn Movement.

Medical progress.

When you're this beautiful, you can apply moisturizer in public anytime you want.

"Blame Van Halen"

These guys give me hope.

Even if they're from Las. Frickin'. Vegas.

I have to admit that Trump is correct on this one.

The cartels are terror organizations.

Misheard.

> These guys give me hope.

It's been so many years that only the piece's weaknesses come to mind (the abhorrent lyrics, the precious guitar passages)... As the clip began, I wanted to walk in and try to explain how disorienting and extraordinary that tape-reversed piano sting sounded during Nixon's first term.

It's gratifying as Hell that thoughtful young men can still appreciate the song's excitement.

The repeated phrase at the top to the second half of Wakeman's solo is a generational marker of (almost) uncontested adoration. I've seen them maybe a half-dozen times, and made it a point to look around the hall at that moment: People seem a little disappointed that he doesn't play it exactly that way.

They're asking "Who's on keyboards?" and I wanna shout 'Life on Mars! Morning Has Broken! Your Song! (probably)'…

…And a few masterworks of his own.

(Those chord changes make me wanna get laid 1977-style… A full bush reeking of Irish Spring, all that stuff.)

"Can a person overcome being born into a "trailer-trash" (yes, pejorative) home?"

One of my many sadnesses is the result of watching the #metoo crowd ignore abuse within families. I can guarantee you that beauty can be a curse for a ten-year-old who looks just like she will at 18, except for her bust; she will have to bear the abuse from trash of all kinds, "parents" being uninterested in protecting her. Forget about an education.
I can show you a guy in jail for life plus two thousand years for his known crimes, and there are others against minor children, some in his own family, the authorities don't know about.
One of them has escaped, but wakes up crying now and then, still. Women in her family didn't lift a finger to help her.

Small towns, just like large ones, are often run by families and friends, people who will protect the people they know no matter how horrible their behavior.

Radwaste: “...people who will protect the people they know no matter how horrible their behavior.”

That’s why I have such admiration for David Kaczynski.

From Wikipedia: “Kaczynski has since said that the decision to report his brother was painful but he felt morally compelled to do so.”

Crid: This place seems to be going toward a grim, carnival-geek direction, what with Patrick's foodpenis stories and everything Mpet links.

Uh, dumbass? Yeah, Crid, that would be you...

Did you happen to notice what appeared at the top of that links section?

Yeah, that would be the AITA (Am I The Asshole?) story on Twitter that Amy posted (which was a linked story from Reddit).

So, it wasn't my "foodpenis story." I, like everyone else who commented on that story, was responding to a story that Amy shared. You spent that entire thread in your curmudgeonly bitching and grumbling mode that no one wanted to discuss the Airport Voiceover Lady that you (for whatever reason) find so utterly discussable.

Crid, just a reminder: at your stage in life, you have one foot in the grave already. Perhaps, before the other foot steps in, you could -- oh, I don't know -- grow the fuck up!

"you have one foot in the grave "

Oh, be nice.

"(Hi Ben!)" ~Crid

Um. Hi Crid. You are quite the odd fellow. But it is nice to see you agreeing with me. Yes Bitcoin isn't much of a currency. And moves like that causing valuations to swing between $4k and $12k isn't helping it. A pretty poor store of value.

By the way it has fallen since that story. It was $10k-$12k in July, a month before that story was published. It is now $7k-$8k. Roughly a 30% fall.

> Uh, dumbass? Yeah, Crid,
> that would be you...

Don't be bitter.

> responding to a story that
> Amy shared.

True, but you're more fun to annoy, and so readily distractable that there was 64.93% chance you wouldn't notice. It was a worthwhile gamble!

> you have one foot in
> the grave already

And yet my looks, my warmth, my clarity, my electrifying sexuality… All these blessings persist in neon salience to those around me.

Besides, this essay convincingly argues that your resentment is passé as well as vapid. We hold the keys…

Without me, you're nothing.

> You are quite the odd fellow.

Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.

-- Frank Zappa

You weren't put here to be normal.

-- Christ, Son of God (paraphrase)

Up 53% since Jan 1. What in your portfolio has done as well?

It's utterly fascinating the lengths you'll go to avoid admitting your stupidity.

Crid:

And yet my looks, my warmth, my clarity, my electrifying sexuality…

With an apparently debilitating case of dementia.

> why I have such admiration
> for David Kaczynski.

One of the Gavin de Becker books —and from quick googling, it must have been a less-popular sequel to his bestseller— once described the irony of David's response to his dilemma. If you wanna look it up, it might have been in here. It's been twenty years, so that might be wrong.

Basically— Anyone looking at the way David had lived his life might well have assumed the younger brother was the demented murderer.... Apparently, that was a deeply troubled family. (What I remember of the description is so weird it would be wrong to summarize.)

That's not to impugn David's heroic behavior in anyway... Courageous character in a profoundly humble spirit.

> utterly fascinating

You can't turn away.

You can't turn away.

Like a train wreck.

Crid, I get it. You're mad that no one wanted to join in your discussion about the Airport Voiceover Lady. You foamed and gnashed so much, you spit your dentures out.

And it was particularly vexing that so many people (including Conan, whom you worship -- which is not an indictment on Conan, since he has no control over which demented fruitcake decides to adore him) had something to say about the peanut butter dingus caper.

Well, Crid, sometimes I share things in the links thread that don't get much traction either. I suggest you just, you know, deal with it.

"Up 53% since Jan 1. What in your portfolio has done as well?" ~Crid

You've never invested in the stock market Crid? I mean 53% isn't anything special.

At least you now recognize Bitcoin is a pretty poor currency. That's some progress.

> I mean 53% isn't anything special.

In twelve months? In each of your next three comments, please list one of your stocks which has grown 53% in 337 days.

Because that's absurd on its face. Unless you're talking about 53% of POTENTIAL wealth in a $165,000 centralized clearinghouse in Dallas without doing the reading.

And now, currency, heretofore unmentioned.

"I mean,

53% isn't

anything special."

Texas Instruments does that every few years Crid. It isn't anything special. There are thousands of stocks that do it every year.

Seriously? You really don't know this stuff?