Are We Nearing Peak Man-Hatred?
It seems unlikely. Women who hate and blame men for all the world's ills (and, often, their own) seem to be going strong on social media and IRL (in real life).
However, I think Terry Gilliam's rant is a harbinger of an increasing number of people starting to feel "enough already" with hating and blaming men. (This, of course, is as sexist and ugly as hating women.)
In The Independent, Alexandra Pollard reports, quoting Gilliam:
"I'm tired, as a white male, of being blamed for everything that is wrong with the world." He holds up his hands. "I didn't do it!"It is deeply frustrating to argue with Gilliam. He is both the devil and his advocate. I try to say that it's not that white men are to blame for everything, but that they are born with certain privileges that, too often, they exploit. He interrupts.
"It's been so simplified is what I don't like. When I announce that I'm a black lesbian in transition, people take offence at that. Why?"
Because you're not.
"Why am I not? How are you saying that I'm not?"
Are you?
"You've judged me and decided that I was making a joke."
You can't identify as black, though.
"OK, here it is. Go on Google. Type in the name Gilliam. Watch what comes up."
What's going to come up?
"The majority are black people. So maybe I'm half black. I just don't look it."
But earlier, he described himself as a white male.
"I don't like the term black or white. I'm now referring to myself as a melanin-light male. I can't stand the simplistic, tribalistic behaviour that we're going through at the moment." He smiles. "I'm getting myself in deeper water, so I have to trust you." I'm not sure what he's trusting me to do.
As I see it, nonsense is a breath of fresh air from all the ugly "sense."
Gilliam continues:
"I'm talking about being a man accused of all the wrong in the world because I'm white-skinned. So I better not be a man. I better not be white. OK, since I don't find men sexually attractive, I've got to be a lesbian. What else can I be? I like girls. These are just logical steps." They don't seem logical. "I'm just trying to make you start thinking. You see, this is the world I grew up in, and with Python, we could do this stuff, and we weren't offending people. We were giving people a lot of laughter."He's right about that. But at its best, Python was silly and whimsical, its more pointed satirical moments punching up, not down. At its worst, it missed the mark, objectifying women when it wasn't depicting them as shrill and preposterous, and using racial slurs that would rightly horrify people today. Gilliam doesn't see the difference.
"I'm into diversity more than anybody," he says, "but diversity in the way you think about the world, which means you can hate what I just said. That's fine! No problem. I mean, you can believe whatever you want to believe, but fundamentalism always ends up being, 'You have to attack other people who are not like you,' and that's what makes me crazy. Life is fantastic, it's wonderful, it's so complex. Enjoy it and play with it and have fun. That's why I didn't become a missionary. That was my plan. I was quite the little zealot when I was young, but when their God couldn't take a joke, I thought, 'This is stupid.' Who would want to believe in a God that can't laugh?"
Um, dour feminists who prefer the power of blame to letting go and having a laugh.
When you're actually powerful -- or work on yourself until you are -- you don't have to be rigid and humorless. You can relax, because you feel you've got what it takes to have command of your life -- which is healthy assertiveness rather than the passiveness that leads to hostile lashing out and the inevitable hatred of men (as well as women who don't give in to the victim role).








I decided a long time ago that God must have a very robust sense of humor.
Stephen Taylor at January 4, 2020 10:53 PM
So long as we have outrage incentivised, click driven social media, then no, we will never reach peak man hating because man hating drives clicks, gets attention, etc.
On her twitters, Alexandra is fanning the flames she ignited in the interview....
jerry at January 4, 2020 11:39 PM
Spider Robinson nailed God's sense of humor: "If a person who indulges in gluttony is a glutton, and a person who commits a felony is a felon, then God is an iron."
Rex Little at January 5, 2020 5:28 AM
Every failure needs someone to blame.
Jay at January 5, 2020 7:21 AM
Rex is on to something.
In short words under his dwindling hourglass, Hitchens described the larger project of the 21st century… From your school board to national engagement to the coherence of humanity.
Crid at January 5, 2020 7:45 AM
"I'm tired, as a white male, of being blamed for everything that is wrong with the world."
That's the difference between us. I don't care if The Usual Suspects blame me specifically or in general. Because if I were specifically guilty of even a 1/10 of the crimes they blame me for, they'd pick their words with more caution.
To not anger me, as I might chop their heads off and stick them on pikes in a fit of rage.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 5, 2020 10:13 AM
I never really found out if anyone agreed with my premise, but I suspect that black people, and minorities in general (except Asians and Jews), recognized that their excuses dried up when we elected a black President.
When a black man became the most powerful man in the world, suddenly there began a mad and desperate race to insist that blacks, women, etc. are still oppressed, so they still must be coddled and still given free money and stuff.
"Oh, we don't have equality! White people are stealing our cultural identity! Cultural appropriation! How oppressive! Oh, no, we can't commit cultural appropriation! We're assimilating to the dominant culture to survive!"
This is also why nationally publicized hate crimes seem to invariably be revealed as hoaxes. "We're still oppressed! We're still victims!"
Never mind that the transgendered are more likely to commit murder than be murdered.
And black activists in particular don't appreciate anyone threatening their place as "Most Oppressed." Even though they aren't. Watch them flip out every time there's a gay protest event, and try to take over the event to make the focus on them.
Mansplaining, 72 cents to the dollar, etc.
Patrick at January 5, 2020 10:45 AM
“When you're actually powerful -- or work on yourself until you are -- you don't have to be rigid and humorless. You can relax, because you feel you've got what it takes to have command of your life -- which is healthy assertiveness rather than the passiveness that leads to hostile lashing out and the inevitable hatred of men (as well as women who don't give in to the victim role).“
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Amy, I’m curious, what are your criteria for viewing a woman as a true victim of sexual assault?
I’m sure both of us agree at each end of the spectrum: e.g. a woman is a true victim if she is walking down the street, some guy grabs her, drags her into an alley and rapes her. And that she’s not a true victim if she goes to a guy’s apt. after a date, sleeps with him because he’s very persuasive and then regrets it the next day.
But what about if a woman walks into a neighborhood that is known to be dangerous and gets sexually assaulted by a guy? Is she not a true victim because she should have known better? What if a woman goes back to a guy’s apt. after a date and he physically forces himself on her? Is she not a true victim because she should have known better?
JD at January 5, 2020 11:37 AM
"When I announce that I'm a black lesbian in transition, people take offence at that. Why?... Why am I not? How are you saying that I'm not?"
Gilliam is probably no less black or lesbian than Elizabeth Warren is American Indian. He should be just as entitled to reap the privileges and benefits of not being white and/or male as she is.
Ken R at January 5, 2020 11:54 AM
Terry Gilliam faces backlash after labeling #MeToo a 'witch-hunt'
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jan/04/terry-gilliam-metoo-witch-hunt-backlash
Ken R at January 5, 2020 12:04 PM
If there is ever to be a mainstream view again, it will simply have to accept the fact that labeling someone as "privileged" because of his sex or race or sexual preference is no different from labeling someone as inferior to you in 1600 because of his race or religion or ancestry. Intersectionality is the worst kind of prejudice, and is so dishonorable that all who promote it must be assumed malicious liars. There is no doubt to give them benefit of. It is simply self-evident that having been born without (some list of) handicaps can never mean I owe others anything. It is their problem.
jdgalt at January 5, 2020 12:08 PM
The sad truth is that humanity is deeply flawed. Even saints have flaws. We are also prone to mental illness. Hitler was deeply nuts, as was Mao. Nutso people who get power create havoc. The same men who started wars also built highways and invented the iphone. That is our dual nature. It is a fucking miracle that we have civilization at all. To demand perfection is absurd. The demand that men not "objectify" women is to demand that men not be attracted to women. ha. not going to happen (fortunately)
cc at January 5, 2020 12:21 PM
We'll never reach peak hatred - for any group. We may, however, reach a temporary period of calm and sanity. And that may be the best we can hoper for.
Conan the Grammarian at January 5, 2020 2:10 PM
I'm with Amy — if you've lost humor (and I don't mean just making fun of people, but a true sense of humor and perspective), you've lost it all.
If you can't take the piss out of Franklin Graham AND Caitlyn Jenner, then your ideology is the problem.
Kevin at January 5, 2020 2:36 PM
Yes, and yes.
However, it doesn't change the fact that she was dumb. She is a victim of sexual assault, and yes, she should have known better.
If I leave my house unlocked, and I get robbed, I'm still a victim of a burglary and robbery. However, it doesn't change the fact that I was careless in forgetting to lock my house.
Patrick at January 5, 2020 3:13 PM
The flip side is if that woman went to a guys apartment and had sex with him without any violence or force she is not a victim. She may have made a bad choice. She may have been uncomfortable. Doesn't matter. She was not sexually assaulted and is not a victim.
Ben at January 5, 2020 6:06 PM
For the record, I suspect that one main reason girls and young women don't take as many precautions as they might is that they're surrounded by boys and men who constantly complain, loudly, about being treated with suspicion 24/7. Such as teen boys who complain about being treated like nothing but potential thieves, in stores. Or boys who complain about girlfriends who refuse to be alone with them in case the boys want more than kissing. ("What makes her think I'm going to use force, anyway?") Or men who get offended since they have to use their ATM cards at night because female strangers won't hold the doors open for them.
So women are told to be cautious while at the same time told not to be so suspicious. Who wouldn't get confused? A certain man, here, compared warning college women to watch their drinks (alcoholic or not) to "advising blacks to avoid an area where a KKK rally is going to take place in the near future."
Yet most men would be pretty offended to be compared to KKK members, right?
Also, from a well-known writer (just in case anyone doesn't get it):
"A con artist is just as much a thief as if he'd broken into his victim's safe-deposit box. 'The complainant showed incredibly bad judgment, Your Honor,' is not a legal defense. Why is rape different?"
Granted, that was in the 1990s. Not sure how much things have changed in the courts.
lenona at January 6, 2020 9:15 AM
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