How Can Grown-Ass Adults Vote For A Candidate With A 5-Year-Old's Grasp Of Math?
I would love "free" healthcare. I would likewise love a "free" flying car and a "free" mansion in Beverly Hills (though I would take Bel-Air if there's a stable and a helipad).
This thought came about because of a wee back and forth Karol Markowicz and I had on Twitter: ![]()
Not surprisingly, many panties were bunched, and some Bernie girl (campaigning for him in New York, I think) told people to come after me, also assuming I was a Republican (and calling me that).
Um, I'm a libertarian who can do rudimentary math.
Bernie, on the other hand, has a 5-year-old's grasp of math: "For California alone, single-payer health care would cost about $400 billion a year--more than twice the state's annual budget."
That's from a Nick Gillespie piece at Reason on why "Medicare for All" is a really bad idea. More:
For starters, there is the cost problem:For California alone, single-payer health care would cost about $400 billion a year--more than twice the state's annual budget. Nationwide "Medicare for all" would cost more than $32 trillion over its first decade. Doubling federal income and corporate taxes wouldn't be enough to pay for it. No doubt, that cost would be used to justify further restrictions on health-care access.In 2017, Eric Boehm noted at Reason that a single-payer bill passed by New York's state assembly would cost $173 billion annually (the state generates about $71 billion a year in revenue). Even when you factor in savings from people not having to pay insurance premiums and co-payments, there's just no way to raise the revenue on such plans. In 2014, Boehm writes, Vermont had to throw in the towel because it "would have required an extra $2.5 billion annually, almost double the state's current budget, and would have required an 11.5 percent payroll tax increase and a 9 percent income tax increase."
But cost isn't the only problem. Atlas writes that in Great Britain, "a record 4.2 million patients were on England's [National Health Service] waiting lists." And there's this:
In Canada last year, the median wait time between seeing a general practitioner and following up with a specialist was 10.2 weeks, while the wait between seeing a doctor and beginning treatment was about five months. According to a Fraser Institute study, the average Canadian waits three months to see an ophthalmologist, four months for an orthopedist and five months for a neurosurgeon.In contrast, wait lists are not a major concern in the United States.
People have these blithe ideas about government-provided healthcare. VA anyone? Just the stories I hear from people who call in at my volunteer mediator gig are enough to tell me that's a horrible idea.
And then there's my personal experience with government all up in healthcare:
Obamacare ruined my previously affordable care thanks to a California clusterfuck where you can't get the ACA prices unless you have a certain amount of money left at the end of the year. (I have less than that at the moment, thanks to the decline in newspapers and writerpay.) I thought I could just choose to pay more than I would owe for ACA plans, but they don't let you have choice. Government chooses that unchoice for you!
It gets better: You can't get Medi-Cal (free care, which I never wanted) unless you don't have care -- meaning I would have to cut off my healthcare and the doctors and drug I fought a big battle to get and get covered in order to possibly get Medi-Cal and possibly get turned down for it. This would likely mean losing access to this drug, which I need, along with the Adderall I'm prescribed so I can focus and write. Not a doable situation.
So...while living on half a shoestring, I'm forced to pay the monthly price millionaires pay while...not even having enough after expenses to make the cutoff for Obamacare! So, I still have health care (in case I am hit by a bus or get cancer, and to get some medicines I take), but I otherwise can't afford to use it.
Sound good, deluded Bernie-loving children? Hop on!








If Sanders has a 5-year-old's understanding of math he probably seems really smart to his followers.
Ken R at January 25, 2020 11:23 PM
Actually, the VA usually isn’t too bad - since the care provided is limited to injuries and conditions that are established as Service Connected Disabilities - so, it’s a lot of bad backs, bad knees, hearing loss, and cheaper prescriptions. But, if if the treatment is for something more serious, then you’re likely going to be waiting and waiting.
For examples of Free Health Care, think of BIA on the Reservations or the Charity Hospital System in Louisiana (e.g., the place famous for Cancer Alley. Cancer rates in Louisiana aren’t higher than the rest of the US, other than for smoking related lung cancer. However, cancer mortality is much higher because testing is put off because of costs and limited availability, so diagnoses and treatments are delayed, so that that the cancer is Stage III or IV before it’s diagnosed. That’s true for most other conditions, also. The diagnosis comes after the point where treatments are effective., because you have to wait to be seen, it takes several visits to get a referral for testing or to see a specialist, and delays to get on the specialist’s appointment schedule.).
Trial lawyers, however, like the government run Free Health Care systems. The delayed diagnoses and treatments support easily won med mal wrongful death claims.
Wfjag at January 26, 2020 2:19 AM
Did they also tell you to stop watching Fox News? That line has become quite the mantra of late.
On the topic of Bernie, the problem with complaining about this is most of the other Democrat candidates are not any different. Warren has made clear she is all in for full Communism with Bernie. For god's sake sleepy Joe is the voice of reason. He only wants to regulate everything to death. Bloomberg's supporters seem to forget he has a public record. Calling him a 'free market proponent' just makes them look weird.
The Democrats appear to have driven everyone who isn't part of the free shit army out of the party.
Ben at January 26, 2020 6:04 AM
Everyone that favors gov services hides the reality of wait times. If you have a serious issue like cancer, long waits can kill.
I have seen many reports stating that medicare as it exists underpays doctors and hospitals. If everyone was getting treated under this system, hospitals would close and doctors would quit. So the current medicare system is subsidized by the rest of us.
I was under the impression that a new rule allows group insurance plans like a group of artists or writers. These were banned under ACA.
cc at January 26, 2020 6:42 AM
Because everything is awful and life sucks and Trump is the Antichrist, that's how.
Or maybe it has to do with prevalence-induced concept change.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 26, 2020 3:06 PM
I'm having to deal with Medicare right now for my dad. What a cluster. He had an abscessed tooth. They sent him home with nasal spray. Not even a painkiller, much less any antibiotic. It's a two-week wait to see the one oral surgeon in town who accepts Medicare. Most doctors in town won't accept Medicare anymore, because payments have been cut so drastically that they lose money treating Medicare patients.
Cousin Dave at January 27, 2020 6:53 AM
Best wishes for your Dad, CD.
Crid at January 27, 2020 9:52 AM
I'm having to deal with Medicare right now for my dad. What a cluster. He had an abscessed tooth. They sent him home with nasal spray. Not even a painkiller, much less any antibiotic. It's a two-week wait to see the one oral surgeon in town who accepts Medicare. Most doctors in town won't accept Medicare anymore, because payments have been cut so drastically that they lose money treating Medicare patients.
Cousin Dave at January 27, 2020 6:53 AM
My advice is, find an oral surgeon who will take cash, and pay for it. Depending on your father’s age, a periodontist may pull the tooth.
Isab at January 27, 2020 1:53 PM
Agreed on the pay cash route. It is a bit expensive. But at least you can get it taken care of.
My wife had a tooth die on her when one of the babies kicked her in the jaw just right. We paid cash and got it done. I'm an independent contractor so it isn't like insurance would really cover anything dental-wise. Still didn't cost much more than it did when I had insurance from a company.
Ben at January 27, 2020 3:13 PM
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