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I had yesterday's link round up open in a tab, and so I looked at the new posts. The sex ed thing reminded me of Archie Bunker and words given him kids need to learn about sex in the street, just like I did.
Sex is such a monumental shift in perception that no amount of talking, reading, or research can prepare someone for that change.
This exchange from Star Trek IV summarizes it quite well.
McCoy: Come on Spock, it's me, McCoy! You really have gone where no man has gone before. Can't you tell me what it felt like?
Spock: It would be impossible to discuss the subject without a common frame of reference.
McCoy: You're joking!
Spock: A joke is a story with a humorous climax.
McCoy: You mean I have to die to discuss your insights on death?
I R A Darth Aggie
at March 5, 2020 5:53 AM
Apologies for the administrivia, but... the Preview function appears to be broken. It yields (after a minute or so), a "Gateway Timeout" error.
(Preview works okay. Thinking out loud: If you're on a VPN try going through a different city.)
Crid
at March 5, 2020 7:51 AM
> Sex is such a monumental shift
> in perception that no amount of
> talking, reading, or research
> can prepare someone for that
> change.
✓ Strongly agree.
That's a big part of why the effort seems so useless. Sex Ed is part of a presumption that all the world's problems can be ameliorated and made boring by properly compassionate & sustainable administration from Hillary Clinton and Al Gore.
But sex is the most dynamic and combustible thing in human life… It has to be, or the species concludes: Love laughs at locksmiths.
A report by an Australian think tank has identified 83 global brands whose supply chains in China are employing Uighur Muslims in conditions that could amount to forced labour.
I will say that people have complained that when it comes to "comprehensive" sex ed in the U.S., such courses don't include enough discussion about the emotional aspect of it - as in "what casual sex does to your heart." (This can apply to boys as well as girls, so there's no need to say that it doesn't.)
I would say that the emotional trouble with BOTH sex and abstinence, when you're a teen, is that either one can convince you that you've found "true love" when you haven't. This is why you can't use either one as an excuse to marry at 18 or even 21.
Btw, see the previous thread for more posts on sex ed.
People can complain about that all they like Lenona. Just shows they are stupid. You can cover birth control, STDs, and basic anatomy. Trying to do anything else is a waste of time.
Ben
at March 6, 2020 8:05 AM
Why is it stupid?
Do they not talk about emotions in European sex ed classes?
I think it's pretty darn important to point out that plenty of people, male and female alike, can't handle the fact that premarital sex often muddles the brain and makes you vulnerable to manipulation - and so it's OK to postpone sex indefinitely, if that's what you want. Or, just as importantly, if we can understand that talking about politics, religion, or money is just too personal for many social occasions, regardless of your age, the same applies to sex and everyone should respect that.
E.g.: If a man wouldn't dream of dating for more than a month or so without having sex, there's no need for him to say "this relationship is going nowhere." How would he like it if she said the same thing because she expected him to propose MARRIAGE after one month?
Instead, AFTER he makes sure that she isn't just using him for free meals, he can say: "I think we want different things from this and I think you should start seeing more men." Or, he can ghost her. There's no nice way to break a heart, but it doesn't have to be horribly rude either.
If that doesn't get discussed, with back-and-forth dialogue, that one short speech could easily get missed in class, by the students.
lenona
at March 6, 2020 2:16 PM
Not to mention there's a BIG difference between being stupid and being young and ignorant, you know. Teens shouldn't have to learn everything the hard way, especially if they're willing to LISTEN to a teacher or a parent.
On top of that, it can be very surprising - and hard to grasp - when a girl hears this for the first time: "Just because a boy wants to sleep with a girl doesn't mean he likes her in any way - but he can be very good at pretending he does." Or: "Some boys will ---- any living creature." But it obviously very much needs to be taught - and many a parent is too squeamish to explain the emotional manipulation in detail. (It helps, though, if the adult speaker explains it in terms of some remote or fictional couple.)
I had yesterday's link round up open in a tab, and so I looked at the new posts. The sex ed thing reminded me of Archie Bunker and words given him kids need to learn about sex in the street, just like I did.
Sex is such a monumental shift in perception that no amount of talking, reading, or research can prepare someone for that change.
This exchange from Star Trek IV summarizes it quite well.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 5, 2020 5:53 AM
Apologies for the administrivia, but... the Preview function appears to be broken. It yields (after a minute or so), a "Gateway Timeout" error.
Cousin Dave at March 5, 2020 6:31 AM
Obnoxious intrusion.
(Preview works okay. Thinking out loud: If you're on a VPN try going through a different city.)
Crid at March 5, 2020 7:51 AM
> Sex is such a monumental shift
> in perception that no amount of
> talking, reading, or research
> can prepare someone for that
> change.
✓ Strongly agree.
That's a big part of why the effort seems so useless. Sex Ed is part of a presumption that all the world's problems can be ameliorated and made boring by properly compassionate & sustainable administration from Hillary Clinton and Al Gore.
But sex is the most dynamic and combustible thing in human life… It has to be, or the species concludes: Love laughs at locksmiths.
— — — — — —
Drones being useful:
PS— He's right, preview took a full minute.
Crid at March 5, 2020 8:13 AM
To wit: California.
Crid at March 5, 2020 8:17 AM
Experiment time: Chief Lieawatha has dropped out of the Democrat primaries, leaving behind a trail of tears. No endorsement yet.
The Bern vs. The Bumbler, a heavy weight bout scheduled for 15 rounds. Or whomever has to take a bathroom break first.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/warren-to-drop-out-of-2020-race-setting-up-one-on-one-showdown-between-progressive-sanders-moderate-biden
I R A Darth Aggie at March 5, 2020 9:10 AM
Teeheehee he was only joking teeheeheehee
https://mobile.twitter.com/cspan/status/1235596315897327616
Sixclaws at March 5, 2020 9:28 AM
> Chief Lieawatha has dropped
Sheez, this is the first I'd heard of it... Skip the news pages for an hour and the world passes you by. Anybody remember that old Jerry Reed song?
Spellcheck inoperative— How many D's in "riddance"?
Crid at March 5, 2020 10:32 AM
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Crid at March 5, 2020 10:37 AM
Sheez, this is the first I'd heard of it..
I take it that you also didn't know that she was from the Imahoe tribe then?
Sixclaws at March 5, 2020 10:38 AM
Get laid quickly with this simple taste test!
I didn't say 'well'…
I said "quickly."
Crid at March 5, 2020 10:40 AM
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/uighur-muslims-china-forced-labour-work-xinjiang-apple-nike-bmw-sony-gap-a9371711.html
Sixclaws at March 5, 2020 10:46 AM
Dammit, Bee, not while I'm drinking hot beverages!
https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1235376988409430017
I R A Darth Aggie at March 5, 2020 12:52 PM
I will say that people have complained that when it comes to "comprehensive" sex ed in the U.S., such courses don't include enough discussion about the emotional aspect of it - as in "what casual sex does to your heart." (This can apply to boys as well as girls, so there's no need to say that it doesn't.)
I would say that the emotional trouble with BOTH sex and abstinence, when you're a teen, is that either one can convince you that you've found "true love" when you haven't. This is why you can't use either one as an excuse to marry at 18 or even 21.
Btw, see the previous thread for more posts on sex ed.
lenona at March 5, 2020 3:17 PM
This thread, I mean:
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2020/03/linkolection-da.html#comments
lenona at March 5, 2020 3:41 PM
Rosemond calls for a lawsuit against a school:
https://www.djournal.com/lifestyle/living/john-rosemond-anti-bullying-programs-in-public-schools-a-farce/article_6b9c2056-0e46-54a3-961f-40d066fa996e.html
A bit different than his usual columns. (I'd have expected him simply to suggest homeschooling again.)
lenona at March 5, 2020 5:36 PM
"Mother of San Bernardino attacker to plead guilty to destroying evidence"
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mother-of-san-bernardino-attacker-to-plead-guilty-to-destroying-evidence/ar-BB10ILTL?ocid=spartanntp
lenona at March 5, 2020 5:45 PM
People can complain about that all they like Lenona. Just shows they are stupid. You can cover birth control, STDs, and basic anatomy. Trying to do anything else is a waste of time.
Ben at March 6, 2020 8:05 AM
Why is it stupid?
Do they not talk about emotions in European sex ed classes?
I think it's pretty darn important to point out that plenty of people, male and female alike, can't handle the fact that premarital sex often muddles the brain and makes you vulnerable to manipulation - and so it's OK to postpone sex indefinitely, if that's what you want. Or, just as importantly, if we can understand that talking about politics, religion, or money is just too personal for many social occasions, regardless of your age, the same applies to sex and everyone should respect that.
E.g.: If a man wouldn't dream of dating for more than a month or so without having sex, there's no need for him to say "this relationship is going nowhere." How would he like it if she said the same thing because she expected him to propose MARRIAGE after one month?
Instead, AFTER he makes sure that she isn't just using him for free meals, he can say: "I think we want different things from this and I think you should start seeing more men." Or, he can ghost her. There's no nice way to break a heart, but it doesn't have to be horribly rude either.
If that doesn't get discussed, with back-and-forth dialogue, that one short speech could easily get missed in class, by the students.
lenona at March 6, 2020 2:16 PM
Not to mention there's a BIG difference between being stupid and being young and ignorant, you know. Teens shouldn't have to learn everything the hard way, especially if they're willing to LISTEN to a teacher or a parent.
On top of that, it can be very surprising - and hard to grasp - when a girl hears this for the first time: "Just because a boy wants to sleep with a girl doesn't mean he likes her in any way - but he can be very good at pretending he does." Or: "Some boys will ---- any living creature." But it obviously very much needs to be taught - and many a parent is too squeamish to explain the emotional manipulation in detail. (It helps, though, if the adult speaker explains it in terms of some remote or fictional couple.)
lenona at March 7, 2020 8:01 AM
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