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Over springtime, there were articles about how colleges would be affected… budgets, etc.
But as summer is underway and class registration is within sight, attention is correctly turning to the matter how many people, including some students, administrators should be allowed to allowed to kill…
Over springtime, there were articles about how colleges would be affected… budgets, etc.
But as summer is underway and class registration is within sight, attention is correctly turning to the matter how many people, including some students, administrators should be allowed to allowed to kill…
Crid at July 1, 2020 12:51 AM
I’m torn between scoffing at the assertion that college age students are an especially vulnerable population, (Mostly asymptomatic or a mild case of the flu) and hoping that the entire higher ed cabal goes down in flames over this.
Merriam-Webster has added "irregardless" as an acceptable word. Well, the English language had a good run, but it's over now.
Conan the Grammarian
at July 1, 2020 8:01 AM
Who is asserting that "college age students are an especially vulnerable population"?
Crid
at July 1, 2020 8:17 AM
Megan McArdle @asymmetricinfo
1h
Ironically, I think that if Donald Trump had been willing to wear a face mask early and often--if he'd made that the "conservative solution"--he might well have gotten the economy in good enough shape to ensure his re-election.
Yeah, probably.
Crid
at July 1, 2020 8:26 AM
Yeah, probably. ~ Crid at July 1, 2020 8:26 AM
Well, Pence has changed his tune, so Donald can now safely change his. "Acting on the latest advice..." and all.
Conan the Grammarian
at July 1, 2020 8:31 AM
Who is asserting that "college age students are an especially vulnerable population"?
Crid at July 1, 2020 8:17 AM
Your cartoonist Almost zero chance of dying from Corona in that age group.
Isab
at July 1, 2020 8:40 AM
GODDAMMIT I don't understand why people can't comprehend these truths—
• It's a pandemic: People pass this disease to each other.
• Some who pass the disease will feel few effects, or will feel no effects and will pass the disease unwittingly.
(You & I both had considerable illness around New Years, and may well have done just that.)
This is exactly why Ben's comments months ago were so breathtakingly appalling:
"A coffee filter strapped to your face with rubber bands has got to be better than nothing ..." ~Crid
Not really. None of those make a difference for a healthy person. The best use is for infected people to use masks. In that case even paper masks help a lot.
Ben at March 15, 2020 7:20 AM
He can't can't conceive of a threat to the body of humanity greater than his own. He can only atomize it as "healthy person" and "infected people"… As if we'd know the difference. We don't!
You, similarly, presume that the people on the cartoon tracks are merely the students themselves. (A few of them are, indisputably.)
What metaphor would make the nature of this risk clear to you two? And to the millions of others without comprehension of how disease works? Some of the problem is a lack of fundamental scientific understanding by the public.
But there are other factors.
Crid
at July 1, 2020 9:29 AM
> the English language had
> a good run
When in the neighborhood, I like to use "without regard to/for," which is intimidating by being both Brit-prissy and legalistic.
Crid
at July 1, 2020 10:09 AM
Still lying about things, eh Crid. So illiterate you can't even read your own links?
Please point out what is wrong in the passage quoted from me. Be detailed. Show us you aren't an ignorant jackass and are just a jackass.
Ben
at July 1, 2020 10:43 AM
the entire higher ed cabal goes down in flames over this
It won't be all. The hedge funds with really nice libraries will be just fine. The flagship state university will be fine, but will have to suck it up and deal with budget crunches.
The rest? trouble looms. Especially for overpriced but under performing colleges, such as Oberlin if the students can see a difference in the on-line setting vs the in-person. Especially if they can compare notes with friends attending other colleges.
My take is that a number of freshmen will wait until Fall 2021, and a number more will be looking closely at their local community college.
The weak will be culled, be they departments or the entire college.
I R A Darth Aggie
at July 1, 2020 11:27 AM
What metaphor would make the nature of this risk clear to you two? And to the millions of others without comprehension of how disease works? Some of the problem is a lack of fundamental scientific understanding by the public.
But there are other factors.
Crid at July 1, 2020 9:29 AM
Article in the Wall Street Journal seem to indicate that college might be one of the best places to control the spread with their ability to both test and quarantine positive students.
The authorities have pretty much zero credibility by giving rioters a pass to go spread Covid.
Covid will no longer be a problem when we have herd immunity but we aren’t going to stop the spread of this disease in a republic with 35 percent asymptomatic carriers. Just isn’t going to happen.
Isab
at July 1, 2020 11:33 AM
This should go a long way towards eliminating the police.
According to a document shared by multiple local reporters and retweeted by the Virginia Senate Democrats, the proposals include downgrading the charge of assault on a police officer from a felony to a misdemeanor.
Elon and SpaceX is at it again. Read the instructions? no, Elon, that's cheating.
The Falcon 9 rocket lifted off at 4:10 p.m. EDT from Cape Canaveral Air Force Station Launch Complex 40 into a partly cloudy sky as temperatures reached the mid-90s.
The first-stage booster, which likely will be reused, successfully landed on a SpaceX ship, Just Read the Instructions, in the Atlantic Ocean.
Oklahoma: white woman murdered for stealing a Nazi flag.
Chicago: two black teens murdered by black man for asking him his height.
So, no. We don't need no dam police.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at July 1, 2020 1:35 PM
Correction: flag lady not murdered, only shot; DA reviewing possible charges against her for theft.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at July 1, 2020 1:36 PM
Seattle: black men murdered in the CHOP/CHAZ.
I was under the impression that the CHOPistan police force were the trigger-pullers in that case. Maybe they should have paid attention to some dead white guy.
Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.
I R A Darth Aggie
at July 1, 2020 2:47 PM
Not all black lives matter to Black Lives Matter.
I R A Darth Aggie
at July 1, 2020 2:51 PM
Are we missing something? Beyond our personal & political distinctions, both shared and opposed, is there any institution that's grown in public estimation or trustworthiness in the past, say, 24 months?
I don't mean in relation to our the surrounding derangement… Not something like Fast-food has exhibited a comparatively high level of performance compared to state medical regulators. (Although in many states it indisputably has.)
(We're at the point when not killing your customers is notable.)
But is their any particular realm where your admiration has been stoked anew?
Crid
at July 1, 2020 3:38 PM
Antifa's relationship with corporations in a nutshell:
The weak will be culled, be they departments or the entire college.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 11:27 AM
What I'm expecting from these places of Higher Education is that the downsizing will strike first at the competent personnel, leaving for last the administrators' nepotistic network, and ultimately the unfireable diversity hires.
Sixclaws
at July 1, 2020 5:08 PM
What I am hoping for is, enough parents hear or have heard what is being taught to their kids in the zoom classes and they realize how much indoctrination they are paying for.
Part of the problem is parents believe school is teaching what they learned 20-30 years ago, sure it was biased, but it's a different level.
Joe J
at July 1, 2020 5:30 PM
> enough parents hear or have heard
> what is being taught to their kids
> in the zoom classes
Hadn't thought of that! A new day for teachers.
Good news: Bobby will not longer be spending the lessons dipping Sally's ponytail into the inkwell.
Bad news: Parents will be monitoring every lesson from a position unseen on the Zoom's Brady matrix.
Crid
at July 1, 2020 5:51 PM
Links and ponies?
I can't post a link, but Bill Cosby's reps celebrated Pennsylvania's decision to revisit his conviction for aggravated indecent assault with this steaming heap:
"The false conviction of Bill Cosby is so much bigger than him — it’s about the destruction of ALL Black people and people of color in America."
I'm sure if I shovel through THAT I'll find a pony in there somewhere!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers
at July 1, 2020 6:15 PM
@Crid,
It gets better.
Parents are finding out -and not liking it at all- that it's not the teachers' fault that their kids are useless, pulsating lumps of flesh.
Sixclaws
at July 1, 2020 6:38 PM
Still can't point out one error in my statement eh Crid? Guess I'll just have to surmise and guess why you act the way you do. When you are a pathological lier anyone who is honest or accurate makes you look bad by comparison. Why else would you equate telling the truth with killing people?
"What I am hoping for is, enough parents hear or have heard what is being taught to their kids in the zoom classes and they realize how much indoctrination they are paying for." ~Joe J
Most don't really care. They mainly use schools as day cares so someone is there to watch the kids while they go to work. Well, if the schools aren't taking the kids then the parents are defacto home schooling. Call it distance learning or whatever other euphemism you want it is still home schooling. So then the question comes up, why pay public school prices for a poor quality home school experience? For quite a bit less you can get a better program over the internet.
Let's talk about higher edjumication.
Over springtime, there were articles about how colleges would be affected… budgets, etc.
But as summer is underway and class registration is within sight, attention is correctly turning to the matter how many people, including some students, administrators should be allowed to allowed to kill…
Crid at July 1, 2020 12:51 AM
…in order to pretend that everything's okay.
In unrelated matters, here's 22 feet of croc.
Crid at July 1, 2020 12:55 AM
Let's talk about higher edjumication.
Over springtime, there were articles about how colleges would be affected… budgets, etc.
But as summer is underway and class registration is within sight, attention is correctly turning to the matter how many people, including some students, administrators should be allowed to allowed to kill…
Crid at July 1, 2020 12:51 AM
I’m torn between scoffing at the assertion that college age students are an especially vulnerable population, (Mostly asymptomatic or a mild case of the flu) and hoping that the entire higher ed cabal goes down in flames over this.
Isab at July 1, 2020 4:17 AM
Companies in July 1st right now:
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1509336-baby-yeet
Sixclaws at July 1, 2020 7:07 AM
Merriam-Webster has added "irregardless" as an acceptable word. Well, the English language had a good run, but it's over now.
Conan the Grammarian at July 1, 2020 8:01 AM
Who is asserting that "college age students are an especially vulnerable population"?
Crid at July 1, 2020 8:17 AM
Crid at July 1, 2020 8:26 AM
Well, Pence has changed his tune, so Donald can now safely change his. "Acting on the latest advice..." and all.
Conan the Grammarian at July 1, 2020 8:31 AM
Who is asserting that "college age students are an especially vulnerable population"?
Crid at July 1, 2020 8:17 AM
Your cartoonist Almost zero chance of dying from Corona in that age group.
Isab at July 1, 2020 8:40 AM
GODDAMMIT I don't understand why people can't comprehend these truths—
This is exactly why Ben's comments months ago were so breathtakingly appalling:
He can't can't conceive of a threat to the body of humanity greater than his own. He can only atomize it as "healthy person" and "infected people"… As if we'd know the difference. We don't!You, similarly, presume that the people on the cartoon tracks are merely the students themselves. (A few of them are, indisputably.)
What metaphor would make the nature of this risk clear to you two? And to the millions of others without comprehension of how disease works? Some of the problem is a lack of fundamental scientific understanding by the public.
But there are other factors.
Crid at July 1, 2020 9:29 AM
> the English language had
> a good run
When in the neighborhood, I like to use "without regard to/for," which is intimidating by being both Brit-prissy and legalistic.
Crid at July 1, 2020 10:09 AM
Still lying about things, eh Crid. So illiterate you can't even read your own links?
Please point out what is wrong in the passage quoted from me. Be detailed. Show us you aren't an ignorant jackass and are just a jackass.
Ben at July 1, 2020 10:43 AM
the entire higher ed cabal goes down in flames over this
It won't be all. The hedge funds with really nice libraries will be just fine. The flagship state university will be fine, but will have to suck it up and deal with budget crunches.
The rest? trouble looms. Especially for overpriced but under performing colleges, such as Oberlin if the students can see a difference in the on-line setting vs the in-person. Especially if they can compare notes with friends attending other colleges.
My take is that a number of freshmen will wait until Fall 2021, and a number more will be looking closely at their local community college.
The weak will be culled, be they departments or the entire college.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 11:27 AM
What metaphor would make the nature of this risk clear to you two? And to the millions of others without comprehension of how disease works? Some of the problem is a lack of fundamental scientific understanding by the public.
But there are other factors.
Crid at July 1, 2020 9:29 AM
Article in the Wall Street Journal seem to indicate that college might be one of the best places to control the spread with their ability to both test and quarantine positive students.
The authorities have pretty much zero credibility by giving rioters a pass to go spread Covid.
Covid will no longer be a problem when we have herd immunity but we aren’t going to stop the spread of this disease in a republic with 35 percent asymptomatic carriers. Just isn’t going to happen.
Isab at July 1, 2020 11:33 AM
This should go a long way towards eliminating the police.
https://www.fox5dc.com/news/virginia-democrats-draft-proposal-to-downgrade-assault-on-police-to-misdemeanor
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 12:09 PM
Elon and SpaceX is at it again. Read the instructions? no, Elon, that's cheating.
https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2020/06/30/SpaceX-launches-next-generation-GPS-satellite-from-Florida/5471593117902/
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 12:54 PM
I vaguely remember this.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/shitty-media-men-list-creator-unable-escape-libel-suit-1301238
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 12:56 PM
Of course we should eliminate the police!
Seattle: black men murdered in the CHOP/CHAZ.
Oklahoma: white woman murdered for stealing a Nazi flag.
Chicago: two black teens murdered by black man for asking him his height.
So, no. We don't need no dam police.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at July 1, 2020 1:35 PM
Correction: flag lady not murdered, only shot; DA reviewing possible charges against her for theft.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at July 1, 2020 1:36 PM
Seattle: black men murdered in the CHOP/CHAZ.
I was under the impression that the CHOPistan police force were the trigger-pullers in that case. Maybe they should have paid attention to some dead white guy.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 2:47 PM
Not all black lives matter to Black Lives Matter.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 1, 2020 2:51 PM
Are we missing something? Beyond our personal & political distinctions, both shared and opposed, is there any institution that's grown in public estimation or trustworthiness in the past, say, 24 months?
I don't mean in relation to our the surrounding derangement… Not something like Fast-food has exhibited a comparatively high level of performance compared to state medical regulators. (Although in many states it indisputably has.)
(We're at the point when not killing your customers is notable.)
But is their any particular realm where your admiration has been stoked anew?
Crid at July 1, 2020 3:38 PM
Antifa's relationship with corporations in a nutshell:
https://twitter.com/GPrime85/status/1277957542656737280
Sixclaws at July 1, 2020 4:52 PM
What I'm expecting from these places of Higher Education is that the downsizing will strike first at the competent personnel, leaving for last the administrators' nepotistic network, and ultimately the unfireable diversity hires.
Sixclaws at July 1, 2020 5:08 PM
What I am hoping for is, enough parents hear or have heard what is being taught to their kids in the zoom classes and they realize how much indoctrination they are paying for.
Part of the problem is parents believe school is teaching what they learned 20-30 years ago, sure it was biased, but it's a different level.
Joe J at July 1, 2020 5:30 PM
> enough parents hear or have heard
> what is being taught to their kids
> in the zoom classes
Hadn't thought of that! A new day for teachers.
Good news: Bobby will not longer be spending the lessons dipping Sally's ponytail into the inkwell.
Bad news: Parents will be monitoring every lesson from a position unseen on the Zoom's Brady matrix.
Crid at July 1, 2020 5:51 PM
Links and ponies?
I can't post a link, but Bill Cosby's reps celebrated Pennsylvania's decision to revisit his conviction for aggravated indecent assault with this steaming heap:
"The false conviction of Bill Cosby is so much bigger than him — it’s about the destruction of ALL Black people and people of color in America."
I'm sure if I shovel through THAT I'll find a pony in there somewhere!
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at July 1, 2020 6:15 PM
@Crid,
It gets better.
Parents are finding out -and not liking it at all- that it's not the teachers' fault that their kids are useless, pulsating lumps of flesh.
Sixclaws at July 1, 2020 6:38 PM
Still can't point out one error in my statement eh Crid? Guess I'll just have to surmise and guess why you act the way you do. When you are a pathological lier anyone who is honest or accurate makes you look bad by comparison. Why else would you equate telling the truth with killing people?
"What I am hoping for is, enough parents hear or have heard what is being taught to their kids in the zoom classes and they realize how much indoctrination they are paying for." ~Joe J
Most don't really care. They mainly use schools as day cares so someone is there to watch the kids while they go to work. Well, if the schools aren't taking the kids then the parents are defacto home schooling. Call it distance learning or whatever other euphemism you want it is still home schooling. So then the question comes up, why pay public school prices for a poor quality home school experience? For quite a bit less you can get a better program over the internet.
Ben at July 1, 2020 7:04 PM
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