The Reusable Bag Fairy Tale
First, mea culpa: I was a big believer in reusable bags, though I have the rip-stop nylon kind, not cotton.
The entire 144-page paper, "Life Cycle Assessment of grocery carrier bags," here. (See page 13 for "executive summary" in English.)
This life cycle analysis by Denmark's Environment Ministry compares plastic bags with alternatives.
— Max Roser (@MaxCRoser) July 4, 2021
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It finds that you must reuse a shopping bag from Organic cotton 20,000 times if you want the environmental damage to be lower than that of 1 plastic bag. pic.twitter.com/zfg7XI9YIg
The researchers' take, ultimately:








We were lied to about the food pyramid by government experts.
We were lied to about the scourge of plastic bags by government experts.
We were lied to about the economic benefit of NAFTA, GATT, and other tariff-eliminating international agreements.
You could generate a list of a hundred government lies of "expert opinion" that was codified into bad law.
Repeatedly being lied to should lead to some introspection: Why do people think they lie all the time? Are they just liars, or have we fundamentally misunderstood for what they optimize? Cui bono?
El Verde Loco at July 5, 2021 6:34 AM
Eh the single use ones often find an extra use or two, as small garbage bags, improptu freezer bags, packing material or when had a dog: poop bags.
To many things in the environmental religion are more for show than actually helping anything. Tried explaining to one that occasionally drying clothes on a clothes line, saves more than switching all lights in the home to environmental ones. But most won't do it because it looks bad/poor.
Joe j at July 5, 2021 7:20 PM
There have been comments in various media about unplugging chargers, etc., when not in use due to parasitic load...
Using one less gallon of hot water a week saves more.
This is what you get with a populace which does not know anything, does not wish to know anything and which fights any measure to teach it.
Radwaste at July 6, 2021 4:43 AM
El Verde Loco, don't forget the Tuskegee experiment.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 6, 2021 7:20 AM
Too many things in the environmental religion are more for show than actually helping anything. Tried explaining to one that occasionally drying clothes on a clothes line, saves more than switching all lights in the home to environmental ones. But most won't do it because it looks bad/poor.
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If THOSE people really cared, they would hang up clothes to dry - indoors.
You can use less space than you might think, simply by using clothes hangers on the shower curtain rod. (Something I learned from the Tightwad Gazette.) Also, that way, you don't have to wait around the house and then get clothes out of the dryer in a hurry, whether to avoid wrinkling or out of consideration for others who might need the dryer. But, one does have to take a shower before crowding the tub.
Also, there is no need to buy a brand new bag, whether for shopping or for multiple purposes. I got a backpack decades ago and I still use it for everything - but if I didn't have one, I could always buy one at a thrift store. While supermarkets around here no longer have free, flimsy grocery bags, I still somehow never seem to run out of the ones I use for garbage - without having to buy any.
Lenona at July 6, 2021 11:18 AM
Single use plastic bags are also excellent fire starters. Sandwich a scrunched up plastic bag between the charcoal or the wood pieces and light it up.
Sixclaws at July 6, 2021 1:30 PM
The only redeeming feature of the cotton bags is that it is highly unlikely that they get washed that often. So the people that use them are more likely to get sick from the diseases they harbor and transmit. Schadenfreude, anyone?
ruralcounsel at July 7, 2021 11:43 AM
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