I live in the Chicago area and ride a commuter train to work each day. The train is a magnet for rude people. Some of my pet peeves, aside from the obvious cell phone abusers, are the people who put their feet up on an empty seat, leaving whatever was on the bottom of their shoes for the next person to sit on. This seems to be a generational thing that the twenty somethings do. Maybe their parents never taught them to think of anyone other than themselves. There is also the person who wants to sleep on the train, so she lays down across the seat so no one else can sit there. Finally, there is the all too important business woman who spreads out her briefcase, laptop and other items across two seats so she can work and talk on her phone on the way to work. If you need to work 24/7, get to work an hour earlier instead of bothering the other 50 people on the train car.

Posted by: Michael Feldman at August 31, 2010 3:51 PM

There was the 6'5" guy I saw who wedged himself between two women on the seats. He couldn't make it all the way in, so he was mostly propped up by them. And he refused to move. Dude, I get that both women were a little heavy, but you were never going to fit in that spot even if there were petite. Admit your lapse in judgment and stand up.

Posted by: MonicaP at August 31, 2010 5:35 PM

I noticed this at disneyland: On the shuttle buses to the park, the first people on would sit. Then, as it filled up, the people who got on and saw no seats would just stop and stand right by the door, so that no others could get on. Also, there would be little kids (2 or 3 years old) sitting in a seat instead of their parents lap. Not acceptable for a crammed full bus. Or, my favorite, a folded up stroller in a seat. Classic.

Posted by: momof4 at August 31, 2010 9:26 PM

About 10 years ago, I was living in New York and was on a public bus. Towards the back of the bus, NYC public buses often have a three-seat row, and then the end of a seat/arm rest. They face out the side of the bus. There's a perpendicular row of five seats at the very back, that face the front. The rows are positioned so that the last two people in the five-person row have space to get in, sit down, and have room for their legs.

I can't remember if I wanted ot face my mother, or there were no other seats. Guy was sitting in the middle seat of the three person bench. (other two seats empty). Big guy, and he was sitting so you couldn't occupy any seat - his bulk was forward, so you couldn't perch on a seat.

He refused to move so that he was only sitting in two seats. I stood in front of him, and looked at him in that way you do politely smiling in the expectation they'll move. No go. Seriously - he wanted all three seats so he wouldn't be uncomfortable sitting on a seat seam (which is not fun, granted). I shrugged, moved to the end of the seat (arm rest) and lifted my butt over the arm rest into the seat that way, behind his arms and bulk. Not sure what he thought of it, but I was proud of myself.

Posted by: Janie4 at August 31, 2010 9:51 PM

1. People who leave empty seats next to themselves on the bus and don't move over as move people come on...and the people coming on don't ask them to scootch over. This means they're left to stand in the aisle - and the bus is consequently filled up much faster, with doors blocked, and like 5 empty seats.
2. On the T: nothing tops my multiple experiences with Boner Man. When my friends and I were in high school we were in Boston every weekend running around like crazy people. EVERY weekend we'd see this dude in sweat shorts - always standing, leaning against the door - and a nubby little boner...which he so kindly moved around for our viewing pleasure. It was hard not to stare and gag.
3. I now take the commuter rail (big train, not subway). A man who gets on/off at my stop is a well-known misogynist. Once I was in line to exit the train, but the train was still moving and there were people in front of me (no one was actually moving/getting off yet). He is behind me and leans into me and pushes. At first I think it's a mistake. But it happens again. So I turn around and ask him to please stop pushing. He pushes AGAIN! and says "Well whydontcha move yer ass!" I have since found out he does this to a lot of the regular ladies on the train. He is a total alcoholic and I think he's a janitor at Harvard so I can see why he is miserable. But still.

In retrospect I should have clocked him - or at least tattle tailed to one of the conductors. Next time I will.

Posted by: Gretchen at September 1, 2010 7:28 PM

Oh Gretchen, please please puhleeeeze clock him! If he's touching you, he's committing battery, and you're simply defending yourself. Tattling won't do squat these days.

Posted by: Juliana at September 1, 2010 10:42 PM

A post in the restaurant thread reminded me of a couple of years ago on the subway in Cologne Germany. It was rush hour, the train was extremely crowded, I was standing in the aisle using the overhead straps. Right next to me, a couple lay their toddler across both their laps and start changing his poopy diaper right there on the train. I couldn't move to get away from it, the smell was horrible. It was just truly disgusting and heinous. No one else seemed to mind or looked upset in anyway. Maybe they were just being stoic Germans about it, I don't know.

When we finally got to our stop I couldn't get off of that train fast enough.

Posted by: DragonHawk at September 2, 2010 4:06 AM

I was on a subway in Rome and it was packed.. The guy next to be bumped into me and then continued to do so. I suddenly realized that he was attempting to hump my leg but his huge bear belly was in the way. Luckily there was an older gentleman there who wedged himself between me and the creep and told him to leave me alone.

Posted by: Katebo at September 2, 2010 5:47 AM

I got on a double streetcar with my infant daughter in a carrier. I walked to the back of the second car where a nice man offered me his seat, which I very much appreciated. At the next stop an elderly lady with two canes got on the streetcar and made it all the way to the back of the second car without a single person offering her a seat. I got up and insisted that the lady take my seat, which apparently embarrassed the other passengers so much that one guy swore at me before insisting that I take his seat. How can people remain seated when a person well over eighty and walking with two canes must stand?
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Another time on the streetcar, the driver asked someone to give me their seat. Nice. At the next stop a man with a cane got on the car, without giving me the opportunity to offer him my seat he yelled at me to get up. I did get up and another person prompty offered me their seat, which I took. The man who yelled at me to give up my seat then proceded to yell at me for giving him my seat because he had not realized that I was, in fact, quite pregnant (very obviously pregnant). The fact is, I would have given the guy my seat anyway because he was so obese (hence the need for a cane) he would not have been able to fit in another seat.

Posted by: Ingrid at September 2, 2010 4:07 PM

I was talking to a friend of mine about your site and he reminded me of an incident that happened to us on the way home from high school.

We lived on the other end of the city from our school so our trip was about an hour on the subway. We always sat in the same corner away from the doors and the car was empty which was not unusual for the time of day. At the second station (we get on at the end of the line) an old lady gets on and hobbles. And watch her get angrier and angrier as she stands right next to us. I figured that she wanted to stand because there were at least 30 other seats free. She starts shouting at us as we pulled up to the next station about how bad our manners were for not offering her, a poor little old lady, a seat. We were speechless and to top it off she got off at the next stop.

Posted by: Nicky at September 3, 2010 2:17 AM

About sprawling sitters on trains etc. If you are a smallish female, try this. Next time a big male sits next to you and spreads out, SPREAD BACK. We've all been trained from birth to be nice and polite and to yield. Well, don't. Pretend your tiny leg is made of granite and weighs a ton or so. Be immovable as a very polite rock. Rocks don't apologize for taking up the space they need, but once they occupy the space they need, they just sit there.

I have had all kinds of people move back, including young black dudes (the worst "spread" offenders BTW). I thought they would pick a fight with me, but no, not so far. Not if I'm otherwise just sitting quietly and minding my own business.

Posted by: vi at September 4, 2010 1:28 AM

I ride BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) on a regular basis, so I could fill a blog with examples of witnessed rudeness.

(I'll leave out the incidents easily attributable to mental illness - e.g., the guy who loudly informed the entire car of his intentions to go home that night, get drunk, and pleasure himself).

I SEE RUDE PEOPLE...

- the guy who, lacking earphones and manners, plays his rap songs on his tinny-speakered cell phone loud enough for half the car to hear.
- the people who sleep across two seats on a crowded rush-hour train
- people who perform personal grooming chores while riding a crowded train (I've witnessed people shaving, tweezing eyebrows, putting on make-up, clipping their nails, applying smelly creams and lotions, etc.)
- the person who gets on and loudly announces to everyone he's collecting for a charity or needs money to get home (although he managed to purchase a BART ticket) and starts passing the hat (what's worse, once one of them started singing)
- the couple who got on board and began eating greasy, smelly fried pork chops and loudly smacking their lips as they did so (because of the cloth seats on BART, there's a "no food or drink" rule).

Posted by: Conan the Grammarian at September 9, 2010 12:57 AM

Sometimes public transportation is waaay too public.

Posted by: Conan the Grammarian at September 9, 2010 2:18 AM

One day I was going to school and because of my stuff I HAD to bring to school ( backpack, poster board for the final project (everyone in school knows about it), a duffel bag for my sport I participate in, p.e. equipment, and a lunch box. Nothing could be compacted down into less bags.) I took up two seats. This girl who also goes to my school go on 3 stops from the stop we get off at, looks around and loudly so the whole bus can hear " WOW people are so fat they HAVE to have 2 seats." Looking directly at me.

The thing was there was 4 seats in the back in the 6 seat row, and 6 more seats in the front, but they where the one you sit sideways in.
She then bitched the whole time ( 3 stops but at 6 am that is a long time)about how if your so fat you should loose weight so they can take your fair share of seats, also looking and glaring at me. But not moving to the seat several people were offering her because they wanted her to STFU.
To move to one seat with ALL my stuff would have meant the destruction of my project that took me 3 weeks to do.

Next day less stuff but way more people same girl gets on. To her friend loudly says "it's nice that people loose weight to only take up one seat" also looking at me. She and her friend were taking up 3. I was in one wedged into a corner.
Next day

Posted by: Briana at September 25, 2010 6:50 AM

What a train ride today from Penn Station. I unknowingly sat down across from two young children and their parents. All was well until 5 minutes after the train began its trip. Right on cue the young boy starts howling. I will give credit to the mother for being able to stop the bawling after a minute.

Jamaica - that family got off. Another family got on. All was well until 5 minutes later. "I can spell day. D! A! Y!. I can spell day. D! A! Y!." I muttered to myself "Can you spell quiet?"

Only a few stops later that family got off. Ah, peace at last? Nope! Cue the loud cell phone talker several seats back. He didn't yell the entire rest of the trip, but it was too long enough.

The trip back to Penn Station was a pleasant one. While waiting for the train, a guy with a large guitar case on the ground was nice enough on his own to move it over so I can sit on the bench easily. Bonus, when he decided to smoke for a little bit he got up and moved away by his own accord so I wouldn't notice the smoke. When he finished he came back to the bench.

As the train car became more crowded the closer to Penn Station, it did get a bit noisy. That was ok. It's Saturday afternoon. While voices were above a whisper none were screeching. People were just enjoying their conversations. Because everyone was at the same acceptable decibels all the conversations became jumbled to my ears as mere background noise. I was acclimated to the noise, so I wasn't uncomfortable nor were my ears hurting.

Posted by: hadsil at September 25, 2010 9:45 PM

Living in Taipei I've found out there are certain cultural taboos that American's and the Taiwanese don't share. My biggest area of cultural insensitivity that I just can't ever get used to: nose picking. Not just children but everyone. Waiting in line, walking down the street, waiting on your table (I'm not even joking).

I'm fine when the expert 'gold digger' wipes their findings on themselves. But once on the MRT (Mass Rapid Transit) I watched a young man with exceptionally long nails for a dude pick his nose and not once or twice but over and over again pick his nose and wipe it on the seat, the seat next to him, the pole in the middle of the car people hold on to, and flick whatever was left in his fingernails across the aisle...towards me. In any culture, that's just plain old rude.

Posted by: jessica at December 26, 2010 2:09 PM

People on the bus talking loud on their cell phones and cussing like a sailor! So rude!!! :(

Posted by: BeBe at February 10, 2011 7:44 PM

A friend of mine just shared this with me, and I had to pass it along. She commutes to work on the bus from Staten Island to NYC every day. Last week she sat in horror as a woman proceded to clip her toenails on the bus(!). After a few minutes of trying to ignore the clipping sound and nail shards flying everywhere, she turned to the woman and said, "Excuse me, I think you dropped something.", and pointed to the clipped nails on the floor. The clipper gave her a nasty look, but it got a big laugh from a few of the other passengers. :-)

Posted by: JonnyT at September 12, 2011 1:59 AM

The inevitable wall of people when I try to exit the metro! Literally happens at every station in Paris, and not just during tourist season. I see some of these people every single day, standing in the same 1-2 person layer completely blocking the doors. Every day I have to push them or forcibly crash into them so I can get off at the/any station. And the next day, there they all are, right back in the same line, preventing everyone from exiting the metro. Do they think everyone plans to ride the metro to the very last stop? Or perhaps we can fly over them? I really do not get it.

Posted by: cmrlh at March 1, 2012 7:43 PM

I just hate it when people talk on their cell phone really loud, or even worse when someone is eating something and the smell of the food spread all over the train.

Posted by: David at April 4, 2012 7:42 PM

I take the same bus every morning and one day a woman got on and folded the seat up to put in an empty stroller, she sat down in one seat and her 5 year old laid down in the other two. So between them they took up 6 seats. I said something and she replied the bus was not crowded. OK the kid is five and still rides in a stroller and they feel entitled to six seats in the priority section. Another day I got on and saw an empty seat and went to sit and the kid was laying on it. I refuse to say excuse me to these types but usually have to tell them I want to sit down. We are on the same bus a lot. They seem to have gotten the idea of sharing but I so much want to whisper "baby, baby, baby" to this kid. Is that mean?

Posted by: penny at August 19, 2012 3:13 PM

I wonder if anyone else in Denver has had this experience. One of my pet peeves on our public transit system, RTD, is the insistence of some headphone users on cranking the volume on their players ALL THE WAY UP so that the entire bus or train is filled with their dubious taste in music (to use the term loosely).

Today I asked a driver to request another passenger to turn down the volume on her headphones. He informed me that he could only instruct a passenger to put on headphones if he was playing music without them, not tell him to turn the volume down. I called RTD Customer Service today and was told that yep, that's correct. RTD cannot oompel drivers to ensure a reasonable level of quiet (or at least a minimum of annoyances) on their vehicles. "It's a safety issue." the drone on the other end of the phone kept telling me. Apparently the definition of "safety" doesn't include minimizing opportunities for the self-absorbed knuckle-draggers among us to inflict their simian taste on the rest of us - or to keep the possibility of altercations on their vehicles at the lowest level possible. Perhaps someone will sue them when the inevitable gunplay ensues.

Posted by: Terry at December 31, 2012 2:26 AM

Some of these complaints are results of each other. I tend to sit in the outer seat (of a pair) on light rail trains, blocking the inner, because I know the train is going to fill up with loud, belligerent teenagers, many of them wearing gang colors or playing threatening rap music, and the driver isn't going to do anything about them (nor is the occasional rent-a-cop if he happens to be there). I don't need one of them next to me.

No doubt the agency's management subscribes to some twisted notion of "civil rights" that says these assholes have a right to infest the system. So long as that's true, well, I won't throw the first punch, but if I can goad one of them into it, then maybe I'll have a license to pick him up and throw him. We sure need some cops willing to do their jobs.

Posted by: John David Galt at January 20, 2013 4:26 AM

In Sacramento, you have kids and adults talking loudly and using foul language with each other and at everyone else both on the cellphones and at each other.

Public transportation people would ask their customers about their opinions with riding the light rail and the buses and the same complaints were loud, rude people. They finally had to crack down on the bad behavior; otherwise, the people would not be riding the buses and the light rail for very long. Back in the old days, its seem that you can take a bus and/or light rail, and get some peace and quiet, but nowadays it seems impossible to get any.

Posted by: Gunther at July 9, 2013 3:24 AM

I used to ride a route to college and the students from the college were pretty rude at times. Here are some ideas of what these students did which I thought was so rude:
1. Using profanity
2. Not giving up a seat for a disabled person (I gave up my seat to a person who needed it more when the students did not want to).
3. Being rude to the operator
4. Screaming on cell phones
5. Cutting in line to pay fare
6. Boss other passengers around and make fun of other passengers based on race, sex, gender, age, disability, etc.
7. Simply disobey the operator.

I no longer have to deal with this route, but the students have done it on other routes. What these kids have to understand is one thing: The bus driver is not a babysitter!
Thankfully, I was never one of the rude kids.

Posted by: Anonymous at December 28, 2013 2:43 AM

I have had problems with rowdy beach goers and their arrogant attitude. These beach bums tend to play loud music, curse, be too rowdy, harass other passengers, and throw things. In regards to the throwing things, a friend and I were going to report them to the driver when the driver told them to knock it off. Why do these people think the bus driver is going to baby sit them? Several friends and I have had problems with the beach goers that we now commute at different times to avoid their raunchy, out-of-control behavior.

Posted by: Not A Beach Bum at January 10, 2014 2:02 AM

Once, I had these unruly concert goers on the same bus as mine and they were very nasty. They were constantly being rowdy, harassing other passengers (one harassed a small child), cursing at others (one cursed at the bus driver), etc.
This experience I witnessed was absolutely pathetic and the band who has holding the concert would be embarrassed to have unruly losers as their fans. And this happened late in the afternoon, before the performance!

Posted by: Embarrassed Music Fan at January 30, 2014 3:42 AM

I've had beefs with some people who claim they're teachers, yes, teachers who think they are entitled to boss other passengers around for no reason. Once, the bus was semi-crowded, but it looked crowded because people were NOT moving to the back as the driver had told them at least 10 times. I said excuse me and this teacher was whining at me and others "you cannot charge through" and I did not listen to his snotty tone of voice one bit. He should tell the bus driver rather than blame me and the other passengers for people not listening to the bus driver.
Second, a lady was allowing her small children to roam and clobbered me in the foot without an apology and this lady who claims she is a teacher tells me that basically "kids will be kids" and I told her off immediately and when she got off, I reported her to the driver. First, the lady with the kids should be watching her children at all costs and not allow them to rudely run around and into other people, 2. the teacher has NO authority to boss me and the other passengers around. That is the bus driver's job, not the teachers'. I am appalled that some people who are supposed be role models for children act so darn rude on public transportation and I feel sorry for the children who have the rude teachers.

Posted by: Unhappy Passenger at February 26, 2014 2:29 PM

I am growing sick and tired of immature youth posting videos of mentally ill people having their episodes on Youtube and then in the videos, other youths and even college kids make fun of the people having the episodes. Rather than acting appropriately and reporting the issue to the drivers, these kids think it's cool to make matters worse. I've complained to Youtube through Google and NOTHING has been done. It is called bullying and these kids need is a good smack in the behind for their actions. Leave the person alone and let the operator deal with it and if need be, report the problem, but do NOT contribute to the problem.
Once, me and several friends ignored a woman who was having an episode and we allowed the driver to deal with the issue (he gave the woman a warning that she needed to settle down) by not setting off the woman any further. That was a good move by my friends and I, knowing that it is the driver's job to deal with the situation.
It is time for these youths with their stupid cameras to grow up and understand that people with mental illness have problems (which still does not excuse their behavior) and that they should let authority deal with matter.

Posted by: Grow Up! at February 27, 2014 12:45 AM

If I was Grow Up! and seen those kids and their cameras looking for trouble, I'd tell em' losers off or report them to the driver and the youths will be the ones out the door. Yet, the driver can call the cops against the youths anyways.

Posted by: Concerned at February 27, 2014 4:09 AM

I strongly hate people who holler and or curse while on their cell phones, making a big scene out of nothing. And what makes it worse is when the person is under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
This week, me and a friend were riding a bus and this 20-something year old girl who was under the influence of drugs or alcohol, was on her phone swearing and verbally abusing the person on the other end. The worst part is when she mentioned that she was in legal trouble. Nobody on the bus wanted to listen to this girl and her drama. After my friend got off, the girl finally got off the phone, but did not say anything to anyone. I guess nobody wanted to give this girl any attention.
With an attitude like that, no wonder this girl gets into trouble.

Posted by: No Drama at May 9, 2014 1:14 AM

Here is what I do not like while waiting for a bus: people who ride their bicycles too fast or ride skateboards too fast and do not have the courtesy to see the people standing or sitting near the bus stop. Recently, I had a problem with an young adult who looked to be around late teens-early 20s, who looks like a offensive lineman. I stand up for a minute to see if the bus was coming and without a horn, bell, or verbal warning, this kid whizzes by me and I tell him "hey watch where you're going and say "excuse me" next time." Apparently, this kid does not give a hoot, but needs to realize that at bus stops there might be people who might not be quick to get out of the path and he needs to learn to be courteous.

Posted by: School's Out at June 11, 2014 2:38 PM

When I would ride the bus in the morning to get to work people would get on and put their purse or tote bags on the seat next to them knowing full well that the bus gets crowded in the morning. Once a lady got on and put her lunch on the seat next to her and then went to sleep. A man got on and sat on her lunch. Boy was she angry.

Posted by: DiDi at August 2, 2014 10:40 PM

I've had an experience with a woman from a theme park who was acting strangely (staring at the other passengers and being bossy) for several days and she decides to sit next to me. Her body language told me she was up to no good, so I tell her "excuse me" to see if I could move to another seat (there was plenty) and she refused three times. Finally, I had to come up with a little white lie such as "I'm getting off at the next stop" when I really wasn't and she finally let me out of the seat and I moved to a different seat. Hopefully, she'll learn to behave herself if she wants company of strangers.

Posted by: Local at September 10, 2014 3:55 PM

Every day (almost) on the bus to work, if someone sits next to me, they inevitably pull out their electronic devices & begin scanning their Facebook pages or playing video games, with their elbows jostling into my side as they move their thumbs about (annoyingly), throughout the duration of the journey (an hour long ride, much of which is spent excruciatingly sitting in slow traffic jams!). I think they ought to have the presence of mind to hold their elbows to their sides if they "must" partake in their beloved electronics while sitting jammed with complete strangers into ridiculously narrow & already uncomfortable seats (even on an "ideal" ride - not that there is such a thing). Better yet, why not read a book or a magazine & save the I-pod for home or their lunch break - where they won't be bothering the passenger stuck sitting scrunched up against their jerking arm?

Posted by: iamaneagle at March 15, 2015 7:13 PM

hmm okay noone else here seems to have had this happen or mentioned it as a pet peeve yet so lets see what anyone thinks..
I'm on the city bus and some of the seats are occupied..I tend to prefer having some personal space if available so I usually choose seats that have noone sitting next them if possible. Sometimes the best seat for that is the one(out of five) directly in the middle of the far rear of the bus facing forward(I also tend to prefer facing forward to see whats happening on the road rather than have to look across the aisle at a stranger my whole trip.) so this is usually my second choice. A largish young man was in one of the seats on the back corner of that last row (the corners are usually my first choice but they were both occupied) with his arm stretched all the way across the empty seat between his and the middle one. Okay thats fine I do this too when noone needs to sit there. Usually no big deal..the gig is up when someone comes for a seat.
I approach the middle seat as normal and wait briefly for him to move his arm, like the person on the other side does with no hesitation, like a normal person would, so his hand isn't reaching into the personal space behind my neck when I sit down...note in case its not common courtesy..Letting your arm stretch behind a person's head suggests closeness and is usually something you can get away with a friend or loved one..not a complete stranger who, like he seems, is also a "straight" adult male. Btw I never did get the impression this person is a homosexual, therefore I proceed to sit anyway fully confident that this guy will NATURALLY move his arm, when,what I thought was,his ruse to discourage me from sitting there, fails...he doesn't. So for maybe the 3rd time in my life of many years using public transportation I consider that might have to actually ASK another man to move his arm from behind a seat I've paid for and chosen. After a 1-2 seconds he doesn't move it I turn to face him.
me: "sir, can you please move your arm from behind this seat?"

For the very FIRST time the person responds (already a bit angry sounding) with something to the tune of:
"No. I'm not touching you. Why do I have to move my arm?"
I admit I was a little taken aback and surprised even though he didn't initially move his arm that someone would argue with ANYONE over this as if there is any justification for it short of having the arm in some kind of medical condition.
me:"I don't want your arm behind my head like that."
guy: My arm isn't behind you!!(escalating for altercation)
The hand is clearly and directly behind my head, btw. As hes arguing he adjusts his hand so its further back away from me but still definitely behind MY seat.
Me: your arm IS behind me.(I'm looking at his hand in my peripheral vision.)
guy: No it isn't..!
me: (still trying somewhat to be calm)and genuinely surprised at this guy's sh!t..and that he really willing to keep his hand behind another grown mans seat..."Why won't you move your arm!?"(I promise you I didn't curse/swear..the whole time actually)
I don't even remember what he said..but it could only have been further of the same bullsh-t, so I began to mentally swim and realize the only rebuttles left for me are: to drop to his level and respond with some out of pocket bullsh-t of my own and turn it into the combat situation it would have become in a perfect natural and uncivilized world..or..proceed to the bus driver and complain about this guy bogarding 3 seats with his arm, or...suddenly snap the f out and lose my sh-t possibly going to jail(definitely not home),causing injuries, and or getting injured myself over some good dmn monkey house sh_t. So I decided to drop out of the "anger moment" let him finish his fk story to himself, settled myself in for the ride with his fk boy crazy hand near my head behind the seat,turned my head to face forward and ignore the rest of his silly life. I admit I spent a portion of the rest of the ride watching him peripherally for any unusual movements; and...trying to figure if: suddenly completely dropping the dispute for the sake of the rest of my life as a free and clear citizen was a "b_tch" move; and... also deciding where and how to one-hit him out of commission if his hand touched me even a little bit.

Later, when a passenger exited the bus opening up another side facing seat nearby. I could have moved but I didn't bother, and its good that he didn't ask. I'm not going to move around a f_cking bus to make someone else or sometimes even myself more comfortable if it means letting an a-hat imagine they got one over on me,unless they're elderly,handicapped,female with kids,older female looking tired or just generally respectful. Nor will I do it,so some f-boy can pretend like hes at home in a fkn low budget lounge act. I'm already fking seated, thank you ride again. SO I guess I kinda hope that his whole thing was that he wanted me to move, so he could be alone in his arrogant bs world.
note: sorry if I'm not supposed to curse in this blog since I've been doing so in abbreviate. Sometimes it has to be used to express the scope of the idiocy being described.

Posted by: Logically Bewildered at July 13, 2016 1:47 AM

I am floored by behaviour at my local Park and Ride in Kirkland, WA. You're standing in line to get on the bus, and people just cram and cut in front of you, people get on from the back of the bus and zip up to the front and take seats as people who paid who got on the front of the desk are piling in from the front. What are you people? How freaking rude and selfish. Also, I get that no on wants to stand but dude sometimes there are people who are obviously old, ill or pregnant and here you are looking so healthy and capable of standing for a freaking half hour and you make that poor person stand. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Have some damned courtesy.

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