Thank Allah For Little Girls!
It seems "The Religion Of Peace" is also the religion of pedophilia. From Jihadwatch, a Toronto Muslim website reproduces the ruling of the "authorized scholar," the late Sheikh Abdul Aziz bin Baz (the guy who issued the ruling prohibiting women from driving cars), on the question, "Is it allowed for a father to force his daughter to marry a specific man that she does not want to mary [sic]?" Sheikh bin Baz responds:
...The father must seek her permission if she is nine years of age or above. Similarly, her other guardians may not marry her off except by her permission. This is obligatory upon all of them. If one is married without permission, then the marriage is not valid. This is because one of the conditions of the marriage is that both partners accept the marriage. If she is married without her permission, by threat or coercion, then the marriage is not valid. The only exception is in the case of the father and his daughter who is less than nine years of age. There is no harm if he gets her married while she is less than nine years old, according to the correct opinion. This is based on the Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) marrying Aisha without her consent when she was less than nine years old, as is stated in authentic Hadith. However, if she is nine years old or more, she cannot be married, even by her father, except with her consent....
Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch writes:
Wait a minute. I thought only venomous Islamophobes believed that (Mohammed's wife) Aisha was six when Muhammad married her and nine when he consummated the marriage. Is the House of Saud aware that it is featuring an Islamophobe on its fatwa website?
Hmmm...wasn't it just yesterday that somebody here was waxing poetic about Muslim women and their choices?
It's just a tiny minority of extremists. *snort*
winston at October 21, 2007 10:05 AM
"Tolerance," that all these multi-culti types keep preaching means tolerance of pedophilia. "Uh..gulp...well, we didn't mean..."
I'm highly intolerant and I think more people should follow my lead.
Amy Alkon at October 21, 2007 10:56 AM
What he didn't mention is what the father can do to the daughter if she's so impudent as to refuse.
George at October 21, 2007 1:31 PM
In fact, let me be a little more explicit. From the CIA world factbook for Saudi Arabia:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sa.html
Sex ratio:
Definition Field Listing
at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.04 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.314 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 1.11 male(s)/female
total population: 1.196 male(s)/female (2007 est.)
An awful lot of females disappeared between the under 15 age group and the 15-64 age group. Where do you suppose they all went?
George at October 21, 2007 2:08 PM
This runs contrary to other populations where, as Howard Bloom puts it in The Lucifer Principle, "men are society's dice," taking the most physical risks and being more likely to lose their lives through accidents, war, or murder.
Book is here:
The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition into the Forces of History
Amy Alkon at October 21, 2007 2:39 PM
Oh, that's gross. But I also have to wonder, at this point, how anybody can send their child into the Catholic church or one of its schools alone? Both cults encourage child rape.
Donna at October 22, 2007 8:13 AM
I think parents don't see Catholic schools as a place this happens -- or haven't. But, my boyfriend, who was raised Catholic, talked about a Brother who used to have boys come in his room and take off their clothes, down to their underwear, and sit in the air conditioning. And a friend who's Irish, and grew up in Ireland, told me it was pretty common for boys to be molested by priests, and kind of a dirty non-secret that people didn't speak of much.
Amy Alkon at October 22, 2007 8:16 AM
But the Catholic situation is still quite different from the Muslim teachings described above. There are no official Catholic teachings that priests should molest children, as far as I know. I'm no expert in things Catholic, but didn't this problem become exponentially worse right after the Catholic Church was pressured by activist groups to welcome homosexuals into the priesthood? They got, instead of sincere, celibate homosexuals, several pedasterist activists (Man-Boy Love Association, etc.).
Seems to me that the ACLU is trying to similarly devastate the Boy Scouts, by insisting that homosexual activists be accepted as scout leaders. As if typical parents are going to allow their boys to stay in the woods with openly activist homosexuals.
The ACLU can't stand the idea that any mainstream group would be allowed some respect in society when their values are different from ACLU values. It's just a little bit like the Islamist stance toward infidels: either destroy them or make sure that they feel constantly humiliated. Of course, I'm not suggesting here that the ACLU would resort to killing innocents, etc., to enforce their values. And unike the Islamists, the ACLU promotes the rights of extremist groups on both the right and left in order to demonstrate their non-partisan nature. The ACLU wants no credible competition. Islamists want no competition of any kind.
Pamelapod at October 22, 2007 10:50 AM
As if typical parents are going to allow their boys to stay in the woods with openly activist homosexuals.
Being gay and being a pedophile aren't the same thing. Heterosexual men molest boys you know. Even hetero Boy Scout leaders.
Amy Alkon at October 22, 2007 10:55 AM
If one reads history men targeting young boys is a common phenomena. The only diffrence is that nowadays they cant hide behind any cloak, Catholic or otherwise.
As for the founder of Islam, he got to fulfill all of his sexual fantasies, with various women under the guise of religion. He denied himself no pleasures. How is he holier than me? Suprisingly I'm an atheist who doesnt molest children, take peoples money, demand adoration or a dogmatic following of my personal belief system. Still billions of people believe that the good ol' Prophet is better than me and they'd kill me for stating otherwise.
PurplePen at October 22, 2007 11:14 AM
Of course heterosexuals also molest children, and of course heterosexual scout leaders have, on occasion, molested boys. But homosexuals are much more likely, statistically, to be pedasterists (as opposed to pedophiles) than are heterosexuals. The operative word here is "activist", not homosexual.
I would not favor "heterosexual activists" in scouting either. The Boy Scouts now feature heavy training in protection against sexual predators. But other than that, I think that most parents would prefer the scouting program to concentrate on subjects other than sexuality. Boys get enough of that in the rest of their environment.
I am waiting for the day when the ACLU has the guts to take a Muslim-sponsored boy scout troop to court for refusing an adult volunteer application from an in-your-face athiest or homosexual activist. Could be fun to watch.
But it would make more sense for the ACLU to sponsor their own equivalent to the Boy Scouts to fit in with their own ideology, rather than trying to destroy the one the one they don't agree with. They could compete in the marketplace of ideas without heavy-handed legal thuggery.
Pamelapod at October 22, 2007 12:41 PM
Sorry -- what is "pedasterist"? I can't find a definition of this word.
moreta at October 22, 2007 2:41 PM
A man who fucks little boys.
Amy Alkon at October 22, 2007 3:15 PM
And it's "pederast."
Amy Alkon at October 22, 2007 3:28 PM
Or "boys" in general. Includes underage, but sexually mature boys. A rough equivalent on the heterosexual side would be a mature man who goes for 14-year-old girls.
Pamelapod at October 22, 2007 4:48 PM
Pamelapod, the issue with the Boy Scouts not letting gays or atheists join was because they recruit through the public schools. The Supreme Court decided that since they are a private organization, they can discriminate. Okay, fine, but don't use public schools to recruit. I never said the Catholic church recruited gays and I'm willing to bet you're mistaken about that given what they think of homosexuality. Pedophiles are attracted to jobs (like preists and scout leaders) that give them access. The reason not to trust your boy or girl alone in a Catholic church or school is because they cover it up and move the pervert to another diocese. I can't imagine why, at this point when they've been so greatly exposed to doing so, anyone would trust their little darling to the Catholic church. As for the ACLU, please go to aclu.org and get a clue as to what they're really about because you obviously have no idea.
Donna at October 24, 2007 9:01 AM
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