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I very, very strongly believe this. It's one of the main reasons I've picked so many fights here over the years. Americans are oblivious to their own ham-fistedness—
Who? Little ol' meeee? [chuckle] All I'm saying is that autistic children should be shredded and grated and baked into pies!... I'm not suggesting that we do anything that would affect your family...!
Crid
at June 5, 2019 11:22 AM
So this is how chicks are trained to walk on the runway
"My uncle is staunchly childfree, he hates kids and avoids anything related to kids. About 20 years ago he meets this woman who has kids but they are grown at this point and live 1,000 miles away or so. They date for years and when she is close to death they get married because her last wish was to be married. After she passes her kids sue my uncle! They claim that his house belongs to them, that my aunt paid half being she lived there over 10 years. They tried to sue on his car as well (he owns several) along with other possessions. Luckily he had proof that he bought the house and his cars long before they met. He then went to a lawyer to make sure her kids can never inherit anything from him, and put me and my brother in his will. This could happen to you, I've seen so many stories like this where stepkids try to inherit."
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Lenona.
lenona
at June 5, 2019 12:24 PM
You're an interesting woman. I only see what you're getting at about a third of the time, but I like the way you pack the things you read for travel.
As I've said before, I'll start taking the global climate change "crisis" more seriously when the people telling me it is a crisis start acting like it is.
I R A Darth Aggie
at June 5, 2019 1:40 PM
They date for years and when she is close to death they get married because her last wish was to be married.
A pre-nup would have been a good idea in this case.
The House Judiciary Committee is planning to bring in former White House counsel and Watergate whistleblower John Dean to testify on the Mueller report, Politico reported Monday.
"No. If you are concerned about what a child might inherit, what you need is a professionally drafted will, to have your documents and financial affairs in good order, and to talk about these things with your partner. This will ensure that your property is distributed as you intend and as smoothly as possible.
"A pre-nup won't work, I think, because it pertains to the dissolution of the marriage. I do not think it applies to death. Regardless, it also cannot override certain legal entitlements and rights (this is why many of them are found to be unenforceable in court) and spouses often have special entitlements and right in terms of inheritance under the law that even a will cannot ignore (can't be disinherited in my jurisdiction). And, a pre-nup can only bind the parties to the document - it cannot bind children who are not party. It is also worth considering that some children - minors and adult dependents - may also have special rights of inheritance that cannot be ignored, even by a will (again, no disinheriting).
"Basically - if you are concerned about this stuff, go talk to a lawyer. Probably both partners just need mirror wills and a proper discussion with each other and family to guard against potential trouble."
From Bratfree (about the same Reddit thread):
Bellflower: "I've also seen it happen the other way. A cousin of mine's mother inherited a bunch of money. She used the $ to buy a plot of land and she built two houses on it. My cousin and her two kids lived on the land with her mom. Well, the mother married some dude 3-4 years before she got terminal cancer. I'll call this guy Chad. Anyway, as the mom was going down, Chad proceeded to drain the bank account. Chad and the mom bought some property FOUR DAYS before the mom died. Within six months he was married to another woman he and the new wife kicked the kid off the property. She had no legal recourse. My feeling is, if the mother wanted to keep the $ in the family, she should have had a will specifying that. Don't trust your spouse to do what you want him/her to do.
"If I were to die, DH gets enough money to pay off the mortgage, because that's a financial obligation I would not live to repay. That's all I feel entitled to give him. (he would also get my pension by law and I cannot change that) Animal charities will get the majority of my money.
"You may call me stingy, but I call myself smart. My DH is a great guy, but I would never set things up so my death would be a financial windfall for a person."
lenona
at June 6, 2019 12:23 PM
Here in Switzerland the law is clear... spouse gets half, kids get the rest split evenly between them. If you want to disown someone you have to go through a process.
NicoleK
at June 6, 2019 12:57 PM
The general consensus at Bratfree that you need a will is right. I really doubt a prenup would apply in this situation. Also if you don't have a will you end up in probate court. The court will appoint someone to decide how things should be split up. But it feels like (i.e. out of my butt numbers) 1/3 of the time the court guy just takes all the money. Though to be fair most of the time there isn't much money involved and he deserves to get paid for his time. But there are certainly people who drag their feet on settling things and end up legally stealing all of the assets. Key point being just get a will. They aren't that expensive.
In praise of Clarence Thomas
http://starparker.com/a/1223/in-praise-of-clarence-thomas
mpetrie98 at June 4, 2019 8:57 PM
The wonders of a DOJ antitrust investigation:
https://twitter.com/VitoGesualdi/status/1136071527563124736
Sixclaws at June 5, 2019 5:46 AM
Convincing rhetoric.
Crid at June 5, 2019 11:00 AM
It's soothing… Comforting… Enveloping… Romantic… Erotic… Ennobling… It's North America's most beautiful weather pattern!
Crid at June 5, 2019 11:10 AM
AHEM…
I said, It's North America's most beautiful weather pattern!
Crid at June 5, 2019 11:12 AM
Donald Trump is responsible for this.
Not really, but still.
Crid at June 5, 2019 11:17 AM
I very, very strongly believe this. It's one of the main reasons I've picked so many fights here over the years. Americans are oblivious to their own ham-fistedness—
Crid at June 5, 2019 11:22 AM
So this is how chicks are trained to walk on the runway
https://twitter.com/NehmahlCutie/status/1136092334465191936
Sixclaws at June 5, 2019 11:24 AM
Gay Darren was the best Darren… All good people agree about this.
Crid at June 5, 2019 11:25 AM
https://old.reddit.com/r/childfree/comments/bwdmyj/for_those_saying_youll_date_parents_with_older/
First post:
"My uncle is staunchly childfree, he hates kids and avoids anything related to kids. About 20 years ago he meets this woman who has kids but they are grown at this point and live 1,000 miles away or so. They date for years and when she is close to death they get married because her last wish was to be married. After she passes her kids sue my uncle! They claim that his house belongs to them, that my aunt paid half being she lived there over 10 years. They tried to sue on his car as well (he owns several) along with other possessions. Luckily he had proof that he bought the house and his cars long before they met. He then went to a lawyer to make sure her kids can never inherit anything from him, and put me and my brother in his will. This could happen to you, I've seen so many stories like this where stepkids try to inherit."
There are 149 comments.
Lenona.
lenona at June 5, 2019 12:24 PM
You're an interesting woman. I only see what you're getting at about a third of the time, but I like the way you pack the things you read for travel.
Crid at June 5, 2019 12:28 PM
Is it immoral to travel?
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2019/06/is-it-immoral-to-travel.php
As I've said before, I'll start taking the global climate change "crisis" more seriously when the people telling me it is a crisis start acting like it is.
I R A Darth Aggie at June 5, 2019 1:40 PM
They date for years and when she is close to death they get married because her last wish was to be married.
A pre-nup would have been a good idea in this case.
I R A Darth Aggie at June 5, 2019 1:46 PM
From bad to worse:
https://twitter.com/CountDankulaTV/status/1136356088708829185
Sixclaws at June 5, 2019 2:01 PM
The stupid is strong with Nadler.
https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/04/house-democrats-judiciary-john-dean-mueller-report-hearings/
I R A Darth Aggie at June 5, 2019 3:05 PM
From the Reddit thread:
"No. If you are concerned about what a child might inherit, what you need is a professionally drafted will, to have your documents and financial affairs in good order, and to talk about these things with your partner. This will ensure that your property is distributed as you intend and as smoothly as possible.
"A pre-nup won't work, I think, because it pertains to the dissolution of the marriage. I do not think it applies to death. Regardless, it also cannot override certain legal entitlements and rights (this is why many of them are found to be unenforceable in court) and spouses often have special entitlements and right in terms of inheritance under the law that even a will cannot ignore (can't be disinherited in my jurisdiction). And, a pre-nup can only bind the parties to the document - it cannot bind children who are not party. It is also worth considering that some children - minors and adult dependents - may also have special rights of inheritance that cannot be ignored, even by a will (again, no disinheriting).
"Basically - if you are concerned about this stuff, go talk to a lawyer. Probably both partners just need mirror wills and a proper discussion with each other and family to guard against potential trouble."
From Bratfree (about the same Reddit thread):
Bellflower: "I've also seen it happen the other way. A cousin of mine's mother inherited a bunch of money. She used the $ to buy a plot of land and she built two houses on it. My cousin and her two kids lived on the land with her mom. Well, the mother married some dude 3-4 years before she got terminal cancer. I'll call this guy Chad. Anyway, as the mom was going down, Chad proceeded to drain the bank account. Chad and the mom bought some property FOUR DAYS before the mom died. Within six months he was married to another woman he and the new wife kicked the kid off the property. She had no legal recourse. My feeling is, if the mother wanted to keep the $ in the family, she should have had a will specifying that. Don't trust your spouse to do what you want him/her to do.
"If I were to die, DH gets enough money to pay off the mortgage, because that's a financial obligation I would not live to repay. That's all I feel entitled to give him. (he would also get my pension by law and I cannot change that) Animal charities will get the majority of my money.
"You may call me stingy, but I call myself smart. My DH is a great guy, but I would never set things up so my death would be a financial windfall for a person."
lenona at June 6, 2019 12:23 PM
Here in Switzerland the law is clear... spouse gets half, kids get the rest split evenly between them. If you want to disown someone you have to go through a process.
NicoleK at June 6, 2019 12:57 PM
The general consensus at Bratfree that you need a will is right. I really doubt a prenup would apply in this situation. Also if you don't have a will you end up in probate court. The court will appoint someone to decide how things should be split up. But it feels like (i.e. out of my butt numbers) 1/3 of the time the court guy just takes all the money. Though to be fair most of the time there isn't much money involved and he deserves to get paid for his time. But there are certainly people who drag their feet on settling things and end up legally stealing all of the assets. Key point being just get a will. They aren't that expensive.
Ben at June 7, 2019 8:03 AM
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