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This Franken article doesn't actually convince… It just yammers on for so long that eventually you'll say anything to make it stop talking.
Still, I don't care.
1.) Franken was never funny on Saturday Night Live… But he was onstage with people who really seemed to have some special powers for humor and charm. And even if the subsequent decades (and hundreds of lousy movies) eventually disabused us of that appraisal, Franken's lackluster presence diminished their moment. He was the guy/gal who talks too much at the party and convinces the truly interesting people to drink in flirt privately instead of sharing their insights with the group. The fame from the venture eventually put him on the national stage nonetheless.
2.) The article is just too goddamed long. Its judgment is overdetermined… Someone wants to make a case. Slogging through for the particulars is just not worthwhile.
3.) It's Franken's party, the Democratic Party, which had greased the machinery of identity politics for the previous thirty years or so. And then the metoo moment pops like a boil in (roughly) 2017, and golly-golly waddaya know, but some innocent people (we are told) got hurt in the consequences. Can any narrative, of any size, convince you to be surprised? Yeah, guys, that's why personally simplistic and small-minded political perspectives are to be avoided.
4.) But even if you want to take the point: 'Shucks, Al Frannnnnkennn was treated unfairly! He suffered disproportionately!!!' Well, so what? This was (and is) a continuing social cataclysm. A bunch of people are communicating and sharing meaning in contexts where they don't know how things work. Yeah... We call that 'civilization,' and no public servant should expect his needs to supersede these shared phenomena— It is not about them. To be an elected public servant, certainly at the federal level, is to serve the public whim and convenience. Nobody owes you anything.
5.) The piece isn't even salty popcorn: There's no meaningful demon-naming, beyond the usual prattle about Fox & conservative media.
Franken? Tellwiddum.
Crid
at July 23, 2019 1:53 AM
Franken was never funny on Saturday Night Live… ~ Crid at July 23, 2019 1:53 AM
Nor were his books funny - nor clever, nor insightful.
I used to listen to him regularly on Air America when I visited Madison, Wisconsin for work. He was neither clever nor insightful on the radio either.
Conan the Grammarian
at July 23, 2019 6:20 AM
The sequel to Bake the cake bigot is ready. Now it's Wax her balls
On the other hand, standing for Dearbornistan values is pretty much the same, so maybe not.
I R A Darth Aggie
at July 23, 2019 7:08 AM
There are some things one can not compromise. IMO this is one of them. How about "no"?
U.S. attorney general William Barr has said consumers should accept the risks that encryption backdoors pose to their personal cybersecurity to ensure law enforcement can access encrypted communications.
The US Government couldn't protect it's own employees data from being swiped. What makes you think they can protect these backdoors against any other black hat out there?
I R A Darth Aggie
at July 23, 2019 10:09 AM
I had an attack of cute. It won't happen again. Not soon, anyway.
Seriously, in combination with "Linkiepoo", I don't wanna know!
President Trump is a fraud with a bad haircut, an enormous number of failed businesses on his ledger, three humiliated wives and a shitty haircut.
Anybody still wanna argue? In 2016, people wanted to argue.
Crid
at July 23, 2019 1:03 PM
> Davis was the brains
Then he wasn't funny either, the acknowledgement of which doesn't make Franken funny.
Basically, their presence on the show (and there were many such personages moping about) described the freakish nature of its success. The charisma and childlike appeal of the Starting Seven (or nine or five or however many, who cares enough to count) were the entirety of the franchise. That allure may have been deception, a pure play of witless demographic recognition, but it was all they had... Franken was proof that there was no B team. A wiser generation would have understood that their commingling meant there was no A team either. But as it was, we got Conehead movies.
Driving Miss Daisy, right?
Buy the box set and weep for what might have been.
Crid
at July 23, 2019 1:19 PM
A few years ago I linked a story like this one in these comments, but can't remember enough details to look it up again.
It may have been the same one.
Crid
at July 23, 2019 2:16 PM
"Anybody still wanna argue? In 2016, people wanted to argue."
If this goes down, please pass the popcorn.
https://spectator.org/the-antifa-antidote/
gcmortal at July 23, 2019 12:01 AM
This Franken article doesn't actually convince… It just yammers on for so long that eventually you'll say anything to make it stop talking.
Still, I don't care.
1.) Franken was never funny on Saturday Night Live… But he was onstage with people who really seemed to have some special powers for humor and charm. And even if the subsequent decades (and hundreds of lousy movies) eventually disabused us of that appraisal, Franken's lackluster presence diminished their moment. He was the guy/gal who talks too much at the party and convinces the truly interesting people to drink in flirt privately instead of sharing their insights with the group. The fame from the venture eventually put him on the national stage nonetheless.
2.) The article is just too goddamed long. Its judgment is overdetermined… Someone wants to make a case. Slogging through for the particulars is just not worthwhile.
3.) It's Franken's party, the Democratic Party, which had greased the machinery of identity politics for the previous thirty years or so. And then the metoo moment pops like a boil in (roughly) 2017, and golly-golly waddaya know, but some innocent people (we are told) got hurt in the consequences. Can any narrative, of any size, convince you to be surprised? Yeah, guys, that's why personally simplistic and small-minded political perspectives are to be avoided.
4.) But even if you want to take the point: 'Shucks, Al Frannnnnkennn was treated unfairly! He suffered disproportionately!!!' Well, so what? This was (and is) a continuing social cataclysm. A bunch of people are communicating and sharing meaning in contexts where they don't know how things work. Yeah... We call that 'civilization,' and no public servant should expect his needs to supersede these shared phenomena— It is not about them. To be an elected public servant, certainly at the federal level, is to serve the public whim and convenience. Nobody owes you anything.
5.) The piece isn't even salty popcorn: There's no meaningful demon-naming, beyond the usual prattle about Fox & conservative media.
Franken? Tellwiddum.
Crid at July 23, 2019 1:53 AM
Nor were his books funny - nor clever, nor insightful.
I used to listen to him regularly on Air America when I visited Madison, Wisconsin for work. He was neither clever nor insightful on the radio either.
Conan the Grammarian at July 23, 2019 6:20 AM
The sequel to Bake the cake bigot is ready. Now it's Wax her balls
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1153349110390562821
Sixclaws at July 23, 2019 6:22 AM
"Franken was never funny on Saturday Night Live"
Tom Davis was the brains behind that duo... I think that's pretty transparent now.
Cousin Dave at July 23, 2019 7:08 AM
There's a word for this. Hmmm...starts with a T and ends with "reason".
https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1153415763883167745
On the other hand, standing for Dearbornistan values is pretty much the same, so maybe not.
I R A Darth Aggie at July 23, 2019 7:08 AM
There are some things one can not compromise. IMO this is one of them. How about "no"?
https://techcrunch.com/2019/07/23/william-barr-consumers-security-risks-backdoors/
The US Government couldn't protect it's own employees data from being swiped. What makes you think they can protect these backdoors against any other black hat out there?
I R A Darth Aggie at July 23, 2019 10:09 AM
I had an attack of cute. It won't happen again. Not soon, anyway.
Seriously, in combination with "Linkiepoo", I don't wanna know!
EVERY WINNING PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE I HAVE VOTED FOR HAS GIVEN ME REASON TO REGRET VOTING FOR HIM!!!
mpetrie98 at July 23, 2019 11:24 AM
Looks like they're taking cues from the PLO:
https://twitter.com/neontaster/status/1153645284242710528
Sixclaws at July 23, 2019 11:38 AM
President Trump is a fraud with a bad haircut, an enormous number of failed businesses on his ledger, three humiliated wives and a shitty haircut.
Anybody still wanna argue? In 2016, people wanted to argue.
Crid at July 23, 2019 1:03 PM
> Davis was the brains
Then he wasn't funny either, the acknowledgement of which doesn't make Franken funny.
Basically, their presence on the show (and there were many such personages moping about) described the freakish nature of its success. The charisma and childlike appeal of the Starting Seven (or nine or five or however many, who cares enough to count) were the entirety of the franchise. That allure may have been deception, a pure play of witless demographic recognition, but it was all they had... Franken was proof that there was no B team. A wiser generation would have understood that their commingling meant there was no A team either. But as it was, we got Conehead movies.
Driving Miss Daisy, right?
Buy the box set and weep for what might have been.
Crid at July 23, 2019 1:19 PM
A few years ago I linked a story like this one in these comments, but can't remember enough details to look it up again.
It may have been the same one.
Crid at July 23, 2019 2:16 PM
"Anybody still wanna argue? In 2016, people wanted to argue."
He still has a better cellphone than you can get.
Urk! Choke!
Even if that doesn't signify anything else.
Radwaste at July 24, 2019 4:26 PM
Only the inanity of your obsession.
[G+8, no complaints]
Crid at July 25, 2019 8:37 AM
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