Easier Unsaid Than Done
I went out with this guy once; then he went away for three weeks, and we e-mailed and phoned constantly. Last night, he took me to dinner, and it was weird and awkward. Should I text him to say "that felt really weird"?
--Honest
Nothing takes the weird and awkward out of dating like sending a guy a typed statement about how weird and awkward you found your date. He's sure to be inspired to look to the future with you, a la "Are you free Friday around 8? How about you go out with some other guy?" As for your stilted evening, maybe he's seeing somebody else and feeling guilty; maybe it was hard reconciling the phone you and the in-person you; maybe his tighty-whities were riding up. If he calls again, you might steer your next date to someplace there's bigger action than the two of you -- a hike, an arcade, an intellectual amusement park (aka a museum). If he doesn't call, you could text him -- as if by accident -- with one of those form messages that came with your phone. "In a meeting"? Confusing, yes, but a better way to say "call me!" than "Had a really crappy time. Looking forward to many more crappy times in the future."








Hmmm... I'm generally nervous and shy on dates (remember, the guy is wondering if he'll get some - the girl already knows), especially early on, but good on phone etc. Usually takes someone special to push through that stage.
But 'Should I text him to say "that felt really weird"?'
Do you really have to ask? No! Either you like him enough to press on like it didn't happen, or move on...
Ltw at February 23, 2010 2:08 PM
Oh, and on both columns - first!
Ltw at February 23, 2010 2:44 PM
Nah, don't text him to say it was weird. Text him to say "wanna grab a cuppa coffee?" and then when you're face to face, talk about it. Casual-like. See if it was just a one time thing, and take it from there.
Flynne at February 23, 2010 7:44 PM
Text him? TEXT HIM?!?! Honey, if you do not have enough invested in this "relationship" (I use the sarcastic quotes based on the fact that they have gone out exactly twice, once before it got weird) to give the guy a face-to-face, or at least a phone call, then having a State of the Relationship talk is not worth it. Go with Amy and Ltw up there, pick a different, less secluded, venue and see what happens then.
NumberSix at February 23, 2010 7:45 PM
Good advice Flynne and NumberSix - there's nothing wrong with asking "did you feel uncomfortable" face to face, I for one prefer things out in the open - within reason! - but casual is important, the best way to deal with weirdness is to make it seem like no big deal. Maybe he'll loosen up, maybe he'll say "I realised this was all a big mistake and didn't want to say, sorry". Maybe he won't agree to another date at all, in which case there's your answer. But that approach will give the LW the best odds of sorting it out. Text is too easily misinterpreted. He might not even feel it was weird, if I thought things had gone well and got a message like that I would be running in the opposite direction screaming "TOO MUCH TOO SOON! HELP!".
Well not really, but my first reaction would be a phone call at least.
Ltw at February 24, 2010 3:37 AM
Hate to break it you guys but texting is dating for Gen Y and below. In fact one of my friends who's on the Gen Y/Gen X cusp said to me a few months back, "Guess what? I'm texting someone!" Welcome to the future. It's life Jim, but not as we know it.
GMan at February 24, 2010 3:48 AM
What everybody else said. Face to face is the way to go, although you can text to set the face-to-face up.
old rpm daddy at February 24, 2010 4:44 AM
The problem w/ texting "that felt really weird" is that SMS isn't an appropriate medium for the ensuing conversation. If he agrees and wants to discuss things, or ask questions, you're stuck trying to do this in 60 character messages.
I think that people often use SMS when dating to maintain distance. It keeps things light and superficial. Because once you go a bit deeper it's difficult to convey meaning and nuance and these are often misconstrued due to the truncated and fragmentary nature of the communication channel.
This sounds like an instance that warrants a grown up conversation.
heliotrope at February 24, 2010 5:14 AM
I'm always dumbfounded by how insensitive and clueless women can be. Women frequently complain about how insensitive and clueless men are and we have this woman.
How would you feel if this guy conveyed this to you? Would it make the next date more comfortable? NOT!
If you want to see him again, don't mention it, and see if it gets better. If you don't want to see him again do him a favor and tell him so he can move on.
David M. at February 24, 2010 6:45 AM
I don't see any harm in asking if something was bothering him. There are non-threatening ways to ask if something was distracting or upsetting him that night.
I wouldn't ignore it if it seems out of character for the guy, if he's worth the effort. If not, why waste anyone's time?
MarkD at February 24, 2010 10:15 AM
I would have to say it depends totally on the content of the e-mails and phone conversations. Where were you going with those, LW? Perhaps it felt odd because the content of your communications was going somewhere the physical mind and body isn't ready for yet?
Easy to say things via email and phone that might make one feel awkward face to face.
I like "casual coffee and see how it feels" as an appropriate next step. If you still feel like something's amiss, just admit something doesn't feel right and get on with your life.
tori at February 24, 2010 10:47 AM
Hate to break it you guys but texting is dating for Gen Y and below. In fact one of my friends who's on the Gen Y/Gen X cusp said to me a few months back, "Guess what? I'm texting someone!" Welcome to the future. It's life Jim, but not as we know it.
Hate to break it to you, GMan, but I am Gen Y and I think texting about your relationship is the coward's way out. Just because it is done does not mean that it should be. Seriously? Someone on the Gen Y/Gen X cusp refers to someone born in the early 1980s. Someone damn near thirty years old is replacing actual dating with texting and thinks its okay? I can understand if we were living before telephones were in every household and the only way to communicate with your long-distance friend was to write and wait for him to write back. But we live in a society where almost everyone is reachable. Texting is not dating. Texting to set up a date or to say "I'll call you later", yes, but anything else that takes the place of actual conversations is just a hit-and-run. It is a way to have a "relationship" without any of the messy relationship stuff, like actually talking to your boyfriend. And lest you think I'm an old fogey, I am 26 and fully embrace our technological advances.
NumberSix at February 24, 2010 1:59 PM
Amy Alkon
https://www.advicegoddess.com/ag-column-archives/2010/02/easier-unsaid-t.html#comment-1697680">comment from NumberSixNumberSIx is exactly right.
I told kids that who interviewed me in the paper for Traverse City.
You get somebody on the phone, and you know you're being rejected, and why, or not. Also, you look like a person, not a coward.
Amy Alkon
at February 24, 2010 5:38 PM
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