Fool Disclosure
On a business trip, I drank WAY too much with some work friends and ended up kissing a random girl I met at a bar, despite my having a girlfriend I love very much. I feel horrible. Until now, I'd never cheated on a woman. Is it crazy to want to tell my girlfriend? It was kissing only, and I never saw the girl again. Plus, I barely remember it. I am planning on proposing soon and don't want us to have any secrets.
--Ashamed
Honesty is not the best policy. Judicious honesty is. That's the kind of honesty that keeps you from telling your girlfriend that her mom is a shrill harpy, her best friend has amazing boobs, and you actually haven't stopped peeing in the shower.
Getting away with something might feel good in the moment, but in time, it goes over like itchy underwear. Ruining the drunken make-out fun is one of the evolutionary underpinnings of human society, our evolved fairness-monitoring system that made it possible for us to live cooperatively in groups. This system is basically an internal accounting department, tracking who owes what to whom and using our emotions as the enforcer. When somebody's chumping us, say, by not putting in their fair share of work, we're goaded into getting mad (and then getting things even). Conversely, we feel guilty and long to right the balance when we're the one breaking some agreement (like by treating monogamy as if it comes with days off for national holidays and photocopier sales expos).
But is letting your girlfriend in on your lips' browser history the right thing to do? Maybe; maybe not. Chances are, you tell yourself that you'd be confessing for your girlfriend's benefit, that she deserves to know. Well, maybe she deserves to not know. Maybe what's really driving your desire to confess is the weight on your conscience and how telling will lessen your load. Sorry -- you did the making out; maybe you should be hauling around the unsettling feeling about it. (Think of it as your pet anvil.)
What should determine whether you tell your girlfriend is why you kissed the girl and whether the past is a harbinger of what's to come. If you're a bad bet for remaining faithful, disclose this so your girlfriend can decide whether it's worth it to her to put herself in harm's way. If, however, this was a drunken one-time thing, why cause her unnecessary worry and pain? Keep your big wandering yap shut and lighten your guiltload by doing what you would've if you had told her -- making amends. Do kind acts for people in need and basically be a fantastic boyfriend to her. (Be careful not to go noticeably overboard. A dozen roses on some random Tuesday is "Oh, you shouldn't have"; 100 is "Wait...what the hell did you do?")
And finally, to ensure that this remains a one-time event, come up with some standards of bar-time engagement for yourself, like maybe that you need to switch to Shirley Temples after two beers. This way, you'll be prepared to act like somebody's boyfriend when temptation sidles up to you at the bar. (There's a reason they call it "sloppy drunk" and not "making wise relationship decisions" drunk.)








If kissing the girl in the bar was a single event, not to be repeated, I'm not sure what good it would do to tell the girlfriend. I can't see the LW's confession as doing anything but inflaming what should be a fairly minor issue. What's the girlfriend going to think if he tells her? That he has Doubts? That he's found Somebody Else? It was just a drunken kiss. It's not like he slept with her or anything. But if he confesses, she's sure to assume he thinks it's a much bigger deal than it really was, and she'll worry.
As far as the drinking goes, I've found that the second beer never tastes as good as the first, so my approach is to drink a single big glass of the good stuff, and move to soft drinks thereafter.
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at April 2, 2014 4:12 AM
You screwed this up; you carry the guilt. If you are unlikely to encounter this girl again AND this was truly a drunken mistake and not you sniffing around for some strange, there's no reason for her to know. Be a better man in the future.
One exception: who else knows? How likely are your work friends going to feel that your girlfriend "deserves to know?" Are any of your "work friends" also rivals who would benefit or be entertained by your love-live going off of the rails?
If there is any chance at all of this coming back to her via another route, it's better if it comes from YOU.
Lamont Cranston at April 2, 2014 5:26 AM
Tangentially, near my place is a 24 hour florist (in Australia, where this sort of thing is unusual). I've always assumed it's either a cover for a drug dealing operation, or more likely, somewhere for guys to stop on the way home to get a bunch of flowers after deflowering the mistress...
I have been there once, but that was when I was working Saturday night and Sunday was Mother's Day. 6am is a weird time to be buying flowers, even for me.
Ltw at April 2, 2014 6:39 AM
Oops, advice to the LW - you barely remember it. So not much memory to erase then?
I doubt she's struggling over existential guilt, or even has much recollection other than "I kissed some guy didn't I? What a night!"
Ltw at April 2, 2014 6:42 AM
I agree w/ Lamont. The first thing you need to do is take out your co-workers. Either do it yourself or hire someone. I've had to do this several times. It's expensive but worth the peace of mind.
Then don't tell your GF anything. You'll just make her crazy and she'll assume you actually slept with someone. I don't know of any confessions of kissing someone that didn't turn out to be something more serious.
milo at April 2, 2014 12:45 PM
@Milo
I don't know of any confessions of kissing. at all!
but maybe that's because I am french.
nico@hou at April 2, 2014 2:24 PM
Gee. While you're wondering about this load of guilt, the fiancé is wondering if she should tell you about the football team.
Teams.
This goes both ways. When you tie the knot, just make sure it's tight.
Radwaste at April 2, 2014 6:39 PM
"Is it crazy to want to tell my girlfriend?"
Yes. There is absolutely no good that can come of it. Unless this is the sort of thing you're likely to do regularly, in which case you should by all means tell her so that she can decide if she wants to break up with you.
Cousin Dave at April 2, 2014 9:11 PM
Letter writer,
You're clearly very young. You kissed a girl. Big fucking deal. Keep it to yourself.
whistleDick at April 2, 2014 10:09 PM
...and don't want us to have any secrets.
Good luck with that.
JD at April 4, 2014 12:43 PM
LW: If this is the sort of thing that makes you feel threatened for your relationship, you're probably in the wrong relationship.
jefe at April 4, 2014 4:50 PM
Well, on the flip side, long ago I dumped my fiance for an encounter a lot like this. Only he didn't tell me about it. One of his (and my) friends did. My take was that if he'd do something like that when we were engaged and still in the giddy stages of passionate love, what would he do when we'd been married a couple of years and the fizz had gone flat?
(One difference -- I knew the woman in question. She'd had the hots for him forever, she wasn't all that attractive, and he used to make fun of her to me. The fact that he succumbed to it -- well, I couldn't get over it. It made it worse that I knew she was no threat to his feelings for me -- all I could think was that he wouldn't even need anything all that great to be unfaithful.)
It hurt like hell for a long time, but I wanted to know. I've never been sorry I found out, or that I dumped him.
I'm not sure whether it would have kept the relationship together if he'd told me himself -- although I do think I would have respected him more. But the fact that I had to find out from someone else made it a no-brainer for me.
Of course, your mileage may differ.
Gail at April 4, 2014 5:06 PM
You should be less overwrought if you kiss someone on the mouth. So you kiss and french for two minutes, you should feel the stress and like it be your pet anvil.
However if you managed to get an STD, herpies simplex (mouth fever blister, or kiss south of the neck line, or way way down south. You might confess or someone might snitch, but remember sometimes when we make errors in relationships, the thing we learn is to not do that again in the next relationship. Becareful about confessing to something that is too damaging. And if you confess big over a small mattter, you'll oook like your covering up something bigger.
Lesson learnt = you don;t have waht it takes to cheat, so don't
MIke at April 7, 2014 2:34 PM
Do not tell her.
One tiny indiscretion, and now you want to unnecessarily hurt her feelings and ruin the relationship by for no apparent reason rubbing her nose in it?
The older I get, the less I understand why people want to 'tell'. Telling is something you do for YOU - it's kind of selfish - you get to ease your conscience while making the other person feel bad. Just forgive yourself for what you did, and focus on trying to be a better person in future.
Actually, I think in some long-term relationships, some 'allowance' for the odd indiscretion may even be a sort of healthy 'steam valve', but here's the key, only if it's kept quiet ... don't get caught, keep it impersonal, have enough respect for the other person's feelings to keep it quiet, and enough respect to not ask too many questions either in case they've done something you don't want to know .. it's better not to know. Maybe it's screwed up but that's how I see it.
Good advice from Amy, as pretty much always.
Lobster at April 20, 2014 6:38 PM
Ashamed, I suggest a whole other perspective, which is that it's a good thing that this happened, that it didn't go too far, and that it happened at this point in your life. You know how horrible it feels to transgress, and you'll keep this feeling with you throughout your marriage, whether to this girlfriend or someone else. It will be something you'll refer to whenever you're tempted, and it may prevent you from doing something much more damaging later on.
Also know that your girlfriend, or any woman you end up with, will probably face something like this at some point--even if you don't think she's the type. Life partnerships are long, and monogamy is difficult. Use the experience for the positive if you can, and don't beat yourself up too much. Wait until you've healed from this to propose so that feelings of guilt don't intrude.
Willow at July 11, 2014 9:16 AM
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