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Women are so mean. I'm the new girl at work, having started my job two weeks ago. Yesterday, I had a date after work, so I wore my date outfit to the office. It wasn't scandalous, but it was a little sexier than my usual workwear. I was in a bathroom stall, and I overheard two female co-workers talking about me: mean, nasty, catty talk. And really, my outfit was not terribly revealing. Why are women so awful to one another?
--Upset
Imagine if there'd been three women in the Garden of Eden -- one wearing a fig leaf a little on the small side and two to ostracize her for flirting with the snake.
Welcome to Putdownapalooza! This sort of catty little gossip fest is a female specialty -- an underhanded form of aggression against women who dare to commandeer male eyeballs.
For women, competition for mates is a beauty contest. (Sorry, but Miss Congeniality doesn't cut it.) While it's good to be a good-looking man, for men, appearance just doesn't matter as much as it does for women. Because women get pregnant and left with mouths to feed, women evolved to prioritize finding a "provider" -- a man who's willing and able to commit resources -- over landing some Mr. Adonis. Men know this, having co-evolved with women. They're more likely to dis each other and also trash each other to the ladies over how much money they make than, say, how tight their pants are.
In short, if you're an ugly millionaire, it's best if you're a man. However, if you're a hot barista or pizza delivery person, you'll still get plenty of dates -- if you're a woman. Because men evolved to prioritize physical appearance in mates, women will band together to punish other women for wearing skimpy, revealing clothes or just for being physically attractive. Women seem to recognize that other women do this. Research by social psychologist Jaimie Arona Krems suggests that women tend to dress defensively -- wear less revealing clothes and dampen their attractiveness -- when they'll be around other women that they aren't already friends with.
Prior research (by psychologist Joyce Benenson, among others) finds that girls and women tend to be vicious to newcomers in a way boys and men are not. For women, there generally seem to be "costs from incorporating a female newcomer," Krems explained to me. The women we already know -- "even those we can have some conflict with -- may be less competitive with us. At times, their gains can be our gains. And very often, female friends protect one another" -- sometimes from other women's aggression. "In fact, we might even dress a little more revealingly ... when we're with our female friends than when we're heading out alone ... perhaps because our friends have our backs."
As for you, knowing this, when you're going to be around women you aren't yet friends with, you might want to take it down a notch in sexy or wait till you're leaving work to slinky it up. Remember, as Michelle Obama said, "There is no limit to what we, as women, can accomplish" -- for example, hacking into the new office hottie's LinkedIn and promoting her to "Vice President of Lap Dances."
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Anecdotally, do many of you know a lot of guys who married down, socially?
Most of the guys I know married within their social class, even plain girls. I don't know anyone who went dramatically down no matter how good-looking the girl was.
NicoleK at February 19, 2020 11:53 AM
@NicoleK,
I have. But there's a catch:
With the men, they're usually new/self-made rich or the sons of successful first-gen immigrants. From an economical P.O.V.? Yes, but socially they prefer them because they find upper-class women a high-maintenance endeavour that prefers to raise dogs rather than children.
With the women, I only know two cases: One did it out of annoyance because her relatives were pestering non-stop about why she was almost 40 with no marriage and no kids, and the second one was a very rich thot at a time where being a single mother was a big no-no, and an abortion where everyone already about her pregnancy would make things worse.
Sixclaws at February 19, 2020 1:09 PM
LW should be extra careful if she's the youngest woman in that department. The other ladies will tear her apart because of it.
Treat them like frenemies: Be friendly and corteous with them, but always keep in mind that if they ever get the chance to sabotage your work or get you fired, they will do it without even blinking.
Welcome to office politics.
Sixclaws at February 19, 2020 1:26 PM
Humans are social apes.
Every group has its social norms. If you violate them badly enough, you will receive feedback (aka, "consequences"). Any social species does this. Birds. Horses. Lions. Wolves.
People.
I'm not saying it's good or bad. It just is.
Not knowing the norms will not excuse violations. This includes being the new girl.
So you learned "dressing to impress" at work, even if you have a date right after doesn't endear you to your workmates. Use (or ignore) that knowledge as you see fit. But understand that flying free means you run the risk of smacking into a wall. Ignore or conform - your choice.
Tl;dr Do what you will, but either way, own it.
Steve at February 21, 2020 12:45 PM
Sorry, but what's appropriate for a date may very well not be appropriate for the office. An outfit doesn't have to be "scandalous" or "terribly revealing" to be inappropriate for work. Their comments may have had more to do with your apparent lack of knowledge about what does and doesn't constitute professional attire than anything else.
Erica at February 23, 2020 10:46 AM
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