Who's Your Oval Officer?
This is a poll with limited choices, so don't be choosing the old man (John McCain), Courtney Love, etc.
Inspired by a Rasmussen poll (no cheating and looking it up!) if you could choose between Hillary Clinton for president or Barack Obama -- and only between those two -- which would you pick, and why?
Feel free to state your party affiliation -- Democrat, Republican, Wiccan, Green, Libertarian, independent, etc. -- and/or anything else we might find interesting.







Hillary Clinton, because (a) she actually has some professional experience, however far in the past, and (b) while she also doesn't have entirely clean hands, Obama's Chicago-style politics makes her look like a saint in comparison.
But this is really sort of like asking: would you rather be hung, drawn or quartered - the real choice is "none of the above".
bradley13 at July 2, 2010 12:28 AM
Since Obama is what we have, I'll say Hilary. We can guess that she'd be just as bad, but we can't know. If Hilary were in, I'd say Obama by the same reasoning.
Of course I agree with Bradley that "neither" is the real choice, but that's too obvious, which is why Amy limited the choices to begin with.
Rex Little at July 2, 2010 1:16 AM
I'd pick Hillary because she has actual experience and demonstrates good working knowledge on a lot of issues. She also has an actual record to judge.
BunnyGirl at July 2, 2010 1:25 AM
I'm a fan of neither. My politics are center-left, but I vote for both Democrats and Republicans, depending upon the candidate and office.
I supported former President Clinton's welfare reforms, which seemed sensible and encouraged people working. I dislike Obama's apparent fealty to unions, which are mostly a cancer in today's America. I wanted health care reform, and thought the Wyden-Bennet bill made sense; I'm not sure if what passed under Obama will do any long-term good to solve our health care problems. I'm also a bit of a non-interventionist. I don't think there's any good to be gained from our continued presence in Afghanistan or Iraq, and think we should extract ourselves from both as soon as we can do so with our dignity intact. The idea of democracy promotion in these places is a farce.
Given my policy preferences, I don't think the differences between Clinton and Obama would have led to meaningful improvement in our present situation. Both would have perpetuated the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, neither would have passed a better health care bill (what was passed was limited by the politics of the Senate, not the will of the executive), neither would have had a better solution on the economy, because top-down solutions are not going to fix fundamentally structural problems that will take years to resolve and will be painful regardless, and neither would have taken meaningful steps to address our long term budgetary problems of spending too much on Social Security, Medicare and the military.
Basically, we were screwed no matter who was elected last time: Obama, Hillary, or McCain. We're living through shit under Obama, but McCain wouldn't have been any better. He never met a military intervention he didn't like (remember, he was all about a showdown with Russia over Georgian territories that didn't want to be a part of Georgia), and had no meaningful thoughts about fixing the economy. He has shown himself to be the equal of either Hillary or Obama in opportunism and short-sightedness. The truth is that we had no good, sane, viable choice in the '08 presidential campaign.
My hope is that we are now starting to realize that we have long-term problems that require uncomfortable, long-term solutions, and that in the next few elections we find some people with viable ideas about fixing Social Security and Medicare. And that people come to understand that we cannot continue to remain solvent and single-handedly pacify the incorrigible countries of the Middle East.
Christopher at July 2, 2010 1:51 AM
Aren't we already stuck with Obama?
Anyway, back when there a choice, I favored Hillary because I hoped that her policies would resemble her husband's & the Democratic Leadership Council's. That's not necessarily the case, of course.
hanmeng at July 2, 2010 2:31 AM
Given that their politics are similar I pick the one that doesn't bow to foreign leaders.
Dale at July 2, 2010 2:48 AM
Hillary, and it is an easy choice. Back when the choice was available, there was one thing very apparent (though the media and much of the public ignored); Obama was a liberal of epic proportions. His track record was littered with extremely left wing policies and surrounded by far left operatives. Hillary's track record, comparatively, was almost middle of the road. Further, Obama's gross inexperience shines through in his naive behavior and decisions regarding foreign affairs. Hillary, it seemed to me, was more realistic toward foreign affairs. Further, I highly doubt there would have been this shameful apology tour and appalling disrespect to our strong ally britain.
Like her, or the Clintons in general, or not, I think there is a very strong case to be made that the mess/far too liberal road we are on would not be (or be far less) the case with President Hillary.
TW at July 2, 2010 4:11 AM
I know I'm suppose to cast a vote, but I'm going to go with the Henry Kissinger answer when he was asked about Iran and Iraq during their war in the 80s.
It's would be nice if both could loose.
Soul at July 2, 2010 4:42 AM
Hillary probably would have made me crazy, but I have to agree that she'd likely be a much more effective and responsible executive. Obama doesn't seem to have any executive ability, or even the desire to play the role of executive. He's the personality in chief.
kam at July 2, 2010 4:55 AM
As usual it comes down to the lesser of 2 poor choices. Hillary. More experience. Way better on foreign policy. And more centrist than Obama.
David M. at July 2, 2010 6:16 AM
Is someone going to drag me to the polls and force me to make that choice at the point of a gun? LOL
A year ago I'd have said Obama, but now I might (shudder) say Hillary. It seems that whichever I know the most about seems like the worst choice.
Dwatney at July 2, 2010 6:49 AM
First, I would have to say that if this is the best America has to offer in terms of President we are in serious shit, however, being that this little hindsight 20/20 thing is limited to two total hacks, I would go with Hillary. At least she believes America is not all bad (I THINK?). Either way it would be a death by a thousand cuts.
jksisco at July 2, 2010 7:01 AM
HIllary. Because she can't be worse. Really. I'm hoping the "voting rights for illegals" thing is pure rumor just like the "Bush is going to suspend the election" thing was, but it would not shock me with him. Clinton ! could at least listen to reason (when forced) so surely she could too.
I am a tea partier. I voted liberal up until this last election, and in fact voted for Hillary over Obama in the primary, although I voted McCain in the general election. I am also pretty socially conservative now that I have kids. And, until a year or so ago, I was for gay marriage although I'm not now. SO that's where I'm coming from.
momof4 at July 2, 2010 7:28 AM
I would stay home. We don't have to vote.
MarkD at July 2, 2010 7:39 AM
Since I'm being forced to pick between these two ... with a gun to my head, I would have to go with Hilary. She already has 8 years experience as president (sorry Bill, we all know that Hilary was making the decisions.) And she's not a closet Muslim.
But until we can elect some sort of Libertarian, or Objectivist, the country will continue to slide into the toilet.
AllenS at July 2, 2010 8:16 AM
Hillary. And my answer was the same 2 years ago. I disagree with her methods and solutions, but I do think that she has geniune concern for the welfare of this nation and its citizens.
From day one, I've said that Obama just wanted to be famous. He's too ugly to be an actor, too uncoordinated to be a good athlete, so he found his niche in politics. He didn't want to be president because of the whole hope and change thing. He wanted his mug on the cover of "People' with his wifey.
UW Girl at July 2, 2010 8:37 AM
Obama. Because he's the result of a democratic system, however flawed, and Clinton as president would mean I have some freaky dictatorial powers I don't want.
MonicaP at July 2, 2010 8:55 AM
If you asked me this question 2 years ago I would have said Hillary. I still think Hillary would have been better than Obama in the short run. But true change can only be brought about by an ugly, ugly bottom. We've been on the road to socialism since LBJ with few bright spots in between. Our last real President was JFK.
But Carter gave us Reagan. Reagan had his warts, but I think he was as good a leader as the system at that time allowed him to be. I am hoping that Obama forces peoples hands to not continue with the "lesser of two evils" choice (or the ridiculous "he's not Bush" choice) and gives us a leader who is a courageous statesman and true civil servant to The People. For that, I'd say Obama. And I detest the man - but here is hoping for real change. It's going to be a long ride down to that bottom - hold on to yer butts.
This president is a flat out disaster. I voted for the Independent candidate last election.
Registered Independent(c)onservative.
Feebie at July 2, 2010 9:05 AM
If I had to choose to be shot (uh...I mean lead)by either Hillary or Obama from the communist ideology side of the world, I would choose Hillary cause atleast she would shoot me herself and she is atleast a natural born citizen and not some Kenyan national pretending to be American. If we are going to have a Dictator in this country, we better have one with some fortitude and strength.
Michael at July 2, 2010 9:13 AM
I don't like Hillary Clinton. I really, really don't like Hillary Clinton. I would vote for Hillary Clinton. She's competent. She'd be a dictator, but she wouldn't be fiddling while New York cinders. Obama would blame New York for the audacity of having too many skyscrapers. He's already proven he's an idiot. Every time he opens his mouth he weakens the country.
hadsil at July 2, 2010 9:20 AM
Hillary. She's closer to the center (or at least appears that way) and absolutely seems like a much more competent executive.
I ended up voting for Bob Barr (with some distaste) in '08. Had it come to McCain or Hillary, though, I might have voted Democrat for the first time in my life. John McCain will never get my vote, largely because of McCain-Feingold.
MikeInRealLife at July 2, 2010 9:41 AM
I never thought I'd see the day when I wanted Hillary Clinton to be President until 2008 when someone far worse was running against her, Obama.
At least Hillary has a love for and is protective of the U.S.A. She recognizes that we are an exceptional country and though we've done some bad things, we are a great country.
Obama seems to despise all that we stand for and does not have our best interest at heart, he has his narcissistic best interest at heart. He is Obama the Destroyer and proves it more and more every day.
Ruby at July 2, 2010 10:31 AM
If I had to vote 'now' I would go for Obama (sadly, reluctantly pulled the lever for McCain at the time). We had to go through this as a country.
On the upside: Racism is dead (except for the truculent baiters), the Left is popularly exposed (journolist?), global warmism discredited (thanks you sexy poodle!), Galt is poking his head up Kilroy-like (via the Tea Party) and, well I can't think of anything else at the moment.
I think we would have gotten much the same with Hillary, the metaphorical difference being with her our 'collective' frog would have started out in cold water and on its way to being thoroughly cooked. Barack has thrown us into the boiling water and we're trying to get out.
Pete Peterson at July 2, 2010 10:58 AM
If that were truly my only choices, I would not vote. Either of those would further derail our country - possibly beyond repair. Oh yeah, maybe we are already there now. But that limited choice can't happen, because both are born again Democratic liberals. There will have to be a Republican candidate - thank God. Needless to say, I am a Republican.
jonathan at July 2, 2010 11:26 AM
Yeah, and all those people not voting because they didn't like McCain got us Obama.
Failing to choose the lesser of two evils leads to the greater evil winning. And unless you're one of those "let's get it over with and bring on the Rapture" types, that's counter-productive.
brian at July 2, 2010 1:39 PM
OMFSM, there are still "birthers" out there? LOL
Dwatney at July 2, 2010 2:21 PM
Hillary.
(Off topic... I don't like Sarah Palin or Rick Perry, but it wouldn't suprise me at all if that's the box I'm checking in 2012.)
ahw at July 2, 2010 3:38 PM
what a no brainer, Hillary in a landslide. This jerk in the office of president, combined with these idiots in congress just my bring the downfall of America within a generation. We are living the movie "Idiocracy", and president comacho has been elected by the idiots in our society who voted for a f'ing scam artist with a glitzy slogan. Hope and change and you idiots bought that crap. We get the leadership we deserve that's for sure. Was McCain a good candidate, no, but he was a hell of a lot more qualified than the pig-n-a-poke that we ended up with. I was a staunch republican until dubya showed me that the neocons were just a bunch of line their own pocket pricks. I am not registered independent, as I think both parties are too similar now and are both equally corrupted by power. In a real election I will vote out all incumbents, regardless of party,
ron at July 2, 2010 4:01 PM
Ohio has "open" primaries. I held my nose and voted for Ms. Clinton even though I'm an independent.
You just need to remember "When hope is not enough."
Jim P. at July 2, 2010 9:07 PM
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