Without speculating on the dynamics of that relationship, let me just say life is too damned short to spend time with people who resemble either of those.

Good people watching, though, I suppose.

My wife tried something like that once.

I carried her away over my shoulder like an undignified and indignant sack of potatoes.

No cure for the shrew like the brute.

We've gotten along very well for the last 10 years.

I work as a hotel night clerk, and have guys come in regularly to see about renting a room, then balk at the quoted rate. Rather than simply say That's too much for me! they will often say well, let me go check on that with the wife, and get in their car and drive off. I often want to say Well if your wife is the one wearing the pants, send her in to rent the room next time, ya pussy.

WHile I don't think the manner this was handled bodes well for the relationship, in any couple (business or romantic) the one best at an activity should do it.

Change this story's title to "Unfeminization 101" and instead of blaming him for being a pussy, rag on her for being a standard Western feminist harpy.

On second thought, you shouldn't do that. Because then the obvious cure for this situation is to give her a righteous smack across her face...and then go to jail.

Yup. Make it all his problem. When a woman acts like a loathsome POS, blame the guy for taking it. That's my policy. Whenever I hear about a woman who's raped, I blame her for not being a 4th degree black belt in aikido. And that makes me feel good about myself.

Hey Kevin -

Did it ever occur to you that if men stopped accommodating women who act like impudent little brats that they would change their behavior?

Or would you rather just act like a little man-child who's had his precious little ego bruised instead?

When the bitch gets uppity like this, the proper response is "sit down and shut up and let me handle this."

I never acted shrewish but I have to say maybe there is more to the story. I like to be the driver. I'm a good driver and never bought into the man drives/woman is passenger part of life. That being said, if a man is driving me, whether my boyfriend, piece of meat, brother, etc, I wouldn't scream at him like that let alone in front of anyone. Maybe they were having a fight the whole time. Maybe he was driving like an asshole and she was fed up when he couldn't park. None of us were in that truck to know what led up to what Amy witnessed. Everyone is entitled to have a bad moment. It doesn't make her a shrew or him ball-less.

Eh. The problem isn't her parking the SUV, it's 1) him driving a vehicle he can't park, and 2) the two of them in an unhealthy relationship, where she acts like a bitch and he lets her (and stays in the relationship).

Brings up memories, though, of the time my ex and I were moving. We'd reserved a U-Haul - I think the 2nd largest one they had. We get there to pick it up, and they don't have one that size. They've got a little pickup with a camper (not nearly big enough) and they've got the biggest one - a big ol', diesel-powered, box truck. Bob looks at it and says "I don't think I can drive that." I looked at it and asked "is it an automatic?"

Of course, that was the truck that had a bad alternator, leaving me with the experience of having had my headlights go out while driving down State Route 33 at 11 p.m. at night....

The fun part, though, is that Bob didn't get worked up and defensive about me driving a truck he wasn't willing to try driving. No, the one and only time he pulled out the "you make me feel like less of a man" card was when I knew how to unfold/refold those cardboard magazine holders, when he'd tried unsuccessfully to follow the directions for 15 minutes. I didn't realize how frustrated he was with them until after I'd walked into the room, picked one up, ignored the directions (because I knew from experience with similar storage boxes that the directions were useless at best), folded it this way and that, and popped it into shape... And then the yelling and ranting began... He quit when I calmly told him that I'd never held back to make him feel better, and never would, and if he couldn't deal with a woman who had skills to match or even exceed his, then he needed to just break up with me.

I wouldn't be with a man I would or could talk to the way this woman did, and even if I could park better, I'd never do that ("Get out!"). It sets up a bad dynamic for the relationship.

I would have no problem if I had trouble doing something and my wife said, "It looks like you're getting frustrated. Would you like me to give it a try?"

If I was with this bitch, I probably would have waited for her to get out and then driven away.

I would have no problem if I had trouble doing something and my wife said, "It looks like you're getting frustrated. Would you like me to give it a try?"

Attitude is everything.

I wouldn't be with a man I would or could talk to the way this woman did, and even if I could park better, I'd never do that ("Get out!"). It sets up a bad dynamic for the relationship.

Agreed!! I don't speak to anyone that way and don't want to be spoken to that way. I can admit however that I've had a bad day once or twice where I wasn't at my best. Maybe not to the extent of this couple but we've all had our moments.

Maybe it was her truck.

I don't care if it was a stolen...fancy SUV. You don't talk to a man that way.

That's where you lose me. Is it acceptable to speak to a woman that way? And that's not meant in a radical feminist way, but in a way of saying, treat people the way you'd like to be treated. It doesn't matter if its a man or a woman. Nobody should scream and demean anyone else.

It's painful to watch.

There is nothing sadder than a man who cowers to the demands of his wife or girlfriend, deathly afraid of upsetting her lest she castrate the stub of what remains of his balls.

The greater the... uxorial whippery in a relationship, the weaker the relationship. Neither person is happy. The man is tremulous and beat down; the woman is pissy and disdainful. It twists and destroys what should be a vibrant, mutually loving, masculine-feminine dynamic, now sapped of all vitality because it's controlled by a domineering shrike who deep down doesn't even want to wield such control.

> a man you can do that to is not much of a man

a woman you can do that to is not much of a woman

But, a man you can do that to is not much of a man.A woman you can do it to isn't much of a woman, either.

Agree with Snoopy, Jen, Kristen -- any ADULT who would take this treatment isn't much of an ADULT.
Same goes for any adult who would dish out this treatment.

I think this may be over-analyzed a bit. I had a friend once who an absolutely miserable vicious shrew of a woman as his girlfriend that pulled this kind of thing on almost a weekly basis. When I asked why he put up with it, he replied "because she's hot and she puts out".

Of course, that's not exactly a good foundation for a relationship. They broke up four months later.

Oh c'mon guys? It's fun- if there's a safe word involved ;) In the BDSM community some people get their humiliation fix in the bedroom. What if we all joined the community? That way, Amy won't have to put Gregg on hold to humiliate all these repressed losers that are walking around on auto pilot. Save the denigration for later, baby, I'm trying to park the ridiculously LARGE penis on wheels that I drive around.

Obviously their interactional style had some problems. That said there's sort of an acceptable period of time in which a car should be parked (unless he just got it/usually never drives that one) and after that the job just needs to get done. If he can't seem to accomplish the task, then he should move over. I probably wouldn't be the bitch that lady was about it...but then again my future man will be assertive in addition to his stellar parking skills.

I bitched at my husband once or twice in public when we were younger, and the conversation he had with me in private put an end to that type of behavior pretty quickly.

I couldn't be with a man I could walk all over.

Oh, that's nothing. I had a girlfriend once who made me bend over in a bar, and rammed a dildo up my pants-down rear end.

If he can't drive this big SUV, he should not try and sell it.

@Brogdan HAAAWWWWWT! What's better than vanilla femdom? Chocolate :) You dirty little boys crave discipline and you know it! Now bend over, bitches! Mwahaha!!! Once you taste chocolate, you never go back :)

>>>Guys do put up with bitches for the sex, but I witnessed the way this guy went all obedient. If he's getting sex from her, he's the bottom and she's the one wearing the big black strap-on.

The key word being IF (IF he's getting sex from her). I'd bet my mortgage payment their sex life is somewhere between lousy and grim. IME, a man who allows a woman to walk all over him is a man who has made himself sexually unattractive to her. He is probably one of those pathetic dolts who has to beg for sex.

I think some posters missed the point of this story. This story has nothing to do with parking or SUVs.

Attitude is everything.

Exactly Amy. What happened to "would you like me to give it a try"? I don't mind being requested to back off if my partner is better at something - my ex wouldn't let me wrap presents, but goddam if she didn't do ten times the job I would - but she never belittled me over it. It was just one of those things. There was plenty of stuff she deferred to me on. Driving being one of them. She often drove me home when I was drunk, and sometimes got me to park the car for her (I was over the limit, but more than capable).

He is probably one of those pathetic dolts who has to beg for sex.

My guess too TW. This "put up with bitchy behaviour because the sex is good" thing usually ends up as "put up with bitchy behaviour hoping the sex will be good".

@Brogdan - hello BOTU :)

and then there are those who are just whipped.

I prefer riding crops

And que the 1812 overture

The 1812 Overture? Riding crops? Damn I've missed a lot in my sheltered life......

Wouldn't "Bolero" be better than the 1812 Overture?

Willingness to do anything for sex with any woman, hot or not, is directly proportional to how much of her shit you are willing to take. It would seem that this guy has not reached that tipping point yet...

We knew this guy had a tiny little prick the second you said that he was driving a big SUV. No need to continue the story after that.

ah, how easy it is to make pronouncements from on high, when you don't know thing one about someone's life.

telling a guy he's a sad, sad, kiddie of a beta, doesn't help him much. telling him he learned too well all the crap from his childhood about being a gentleman and "valuing other people's opinions" never raising his voice.

All this stuff deosn't help. I don't know if it will even help if you tell him this is only going to get worse and to get out while he can, but at least it would be constructive...

"That's where you lose me. Is it acceptable to speak to a woman that way? And that's not meant in a radical feminist way, but in a way of saying, treat people the way you'd like to be treated. It doesn't matter if its a man or a woman. Nobody should scream and demean anyone else. "

Of course its not acceptable to talk to a woman that way but this is story about a man being treated that way. Unless you would go onto a radical feminist site where the folks are talking about a story like this but reversed (where the husband was talking to the wife that way) and mention that men shouldn't be treated that way either.

And speaking of reversing the situation my money says a lot of people would call a man talking to his wife like that and treating her like that abuse. Followed by speculation that he physically abuses her and that he's probably treated her like that for a long time and how he hates women.