It's late here on the East Coast and it's a school night, so I gotta turn in - but I have something to add to the good Doctor's points:

In an established relationship, the "covert contract" he mentions can be put in place if/when communication is allowed to fail. Each partner proceeds on what they think the other wants, occasionally offended by not getting acknowledgement and being taken for granted. If allowed to continue, horrible things can happen.

I heard a few minutes while crashing into a snooze after work, it sounded great.

A few months ago I heard an interview from Wallerstein about ten years ago where she talked about how these guys often come from single-parent (mother) homes, or other settings where there's an overwhelmingly feminine personality calling the shots while they're growing up...

These guys are passy-aggressy on the way into a relationship, and then utterly deaf to a woman's complaints when things are going wrong. Maybe the aroma of grumpy womanhood is imperceptible to them because it's always been around them. But even when the partner tries to get them to talk about problems and big life themes for sixth months before she moves out, they're surprised anyway. (Alone in the basement playing video games or out in the garage under the car or whatever: "She always seemed happy....")

Unfortunately the interview was taken offline when I tried to go back and get a copy two days later. And she's probably too old to bother with questions about it at this point. But she wrote the book.

Loveline used to talk about it, too.

Anyway, this is another reason to hate gay marriage and divorce.

Looking forward to hearing the whole show.

Anyway, this is another reason to hate gay marriage and divorce.

It is? Or are you just trying to get on Patrick's nerves?

It is, but sometimes collateral damage happens, y'know? And it's a shame.

(BTW- How come you, on a personal level, are first concerned with the feelings of want-to-marry gays rather than the order-of-magnitude more prevalent single mothers? This is one of those clues that compassion for suffering, certainly the suffering of children, isn't your top concern.)

"Rad, your comment about calling my producer honey in the chat was funny. I hope I didn't sound to psycho. I was in a bit of a panic about the technical problems."

No, it was great. In fact, endearing, because there was no hint of anger, impatience or disrespect in your tone!

> Here's an example of a kid raised by gay moms:

Oh puh-leeze. How about I find you a kid from the inner city –wheelchair-bound, maybe who graduated college and loves his Mommy very much and never went to prison– and then you needn't be concerned about that, either?

And again, why is it always the gays that people worry about rather than the single parents?

...Because you're into it for the social props, and it takes more than an hour of radio rhetoric about gender sensitivity to give you a new perspective.

Because the numbers say your example is the rare exception whislt Amy's is the norm.

And given you know this asking the queston is disingenious at best, and a bald face lie at worst

I liked the interview, and hope you have him on again. I agree with him about dancing--I took up swing dancing several years ago and it changed my life. And I've noticed that it's generally nice, gentlemanly types who need to firm up their frame. (Imagine trying to pole dance without a pole. That's what it's like to dance with a noodle-armed lead.)

> Because the numbers say your example is the rare
> exception whislt Amy's is the norm.

Frogwash. Amy reached first for the heartwarmming Disney trailer, which is what it's all abour for her. And others, apparently.

Sorry crid but Amy and othershave posted more links then I'd care to count showing that kids from gay parants of intact homes do just as well as kids from htero homes.

Unless, ofcorse you arent the real crid, that would explain your newfound childeshness and stupidity

You can count?