I'm sorry, but I have no time for attention whores, especially ones who use contentious issues like abortion just to get their name on the news. This story is apreading all over Facebook but I refuse to acknowledge its existence.

but I also think it's rather horrible to have an abortion once the thing inside you is more than a big clump of matter with the potential to become a person.
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Which is why it's so traumatic for a woman with a WANTED pregnancy to have to go through an abortion in the sixth month or later because her doctor (sometimes) can't give her the news about certain terrible fetal defects and the likely consequences of carrying it to term.

I realize that's not what this is about, but as I understand it, 90% or more of late-term abortions are done with women who were truly hoping to give birth - and too many people refuse to acknowledge that.

Whoops - I meant "can't give her the news about certain terrible fetal defects beforehand."

I looked at her picture, read the first couple of paragraphs, and decided Cousin Dave pretty much nailed it. Too bad it's too late for either of us to refuse to acknowledge it's existence, though.

She's trying to look like a Targaryen, which only works if you actually have dragons.

It used to be that tracking ovulation was a bit accepted for BC method... 'till they figured out that women can drop more than one egg per cycle somewhere in the early 2000's and oh...
so that's why ovulation tracking sometimes fails.

The human body is designed for survival, and it will do everything it can to have offspring. But humans can also rationalize pretty much anything.

Importantly this person seems to rationalize that a fetus isn't human until it's born. prior to that, the kid is f***ed.

Indeed thought processes like hers do nothing to push the questions forward, for a very good reason.

The better a definition we have of what it is to be human, and WHEN a fetus is human, would certainly constrain the ability to abort... and certainly she doesn't want to have to think about that part. Essentially no-one in this movement wants to know WHEN it's human. That's why the freakout when anyone suggests that after 20 weeks aborts shouldn't be allowed.

When you point out that it's 5 MONTHS they will shout SHUT UP.

a side note on this question, from someone who noted the VISUAL language of this thing... The Anchoress' opinion comes from faith, but even if you don't agree with the faith, the truth she speaks is there.

And Sorrowful.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2014/05/06/belying-all-her-good-abortion-words-her-face/

I'd spend the rest of my life in prison happily if I could put a bullet in her and all like her.

But no, SHE can kill at will. That makes sense. I've not watched the video, I don't watch snuff films. The fact that she made it tells me all I need to know about her.

Momof4, I suggest you get that gun and slaughter all the infidels, stat.

Otherwise you'll never be at peace with yourself.

I'd like to know what study that is SwissArmyD. Someone once linked me one that stated such, but it wasn't actually proven in the study and were studying women who breastfeed, stating that showed a possibility of having ovulated but not getting periods due to lack of adequate endometrial lining, so no bleeding equaled no cycle in the study, hence multiple eggs per cycle. Now, "tracking ovulation" is much more involved than what most people think it is (basically a form of rhythm method). It involves taken basal body temperature, cervical mucus, and cervical positions and characteristics. You can tell when you are potentially fertile by your mucus and cervix. When you ovulate the mucus changes back to very thick and cloudy and not much if it. Your cervix also gets hard and closed. Along with this your basal body temperature goes up on average half a degree and stays up for roughly 14 days (10-16 is considered a normal luteal phase). Your temperature then drops at your period. The dramatic increase in progesterone and drop in estrogen at ovulation cause the changes and prevent further development and release of additional eggs during that cycle. I've practiced FAM/NFP since I was 19 (I'm 33 now) with no problems with any sort of oops pregnancy or misinterpreted cycles. I can't take hormonal birth control due to a blood clotting disorder so it was this plus condoms on fertile days. That said, a few months after I had my daughter I opted to try a copper IUD instead. Five months later I found myself unintentionally and shockingly pregnant. My option was basically for them to remove the IUD with a near certainty it would cause me to miscarry or to leave it in and monitor based on the position of baby in relation to IUD as the pregnancy progresses but still with a high chance of miscarriage and other serious complications.

Momof4 is being way too kind.

I think it's funny that the LW can justify killing (oops I goofed).

She probably considers herself someone special (as opposed those Tea Party/fracking types).

Not sure what infidels have to do with it. Are you suggesting one can only oppose murder based on religious grounds? Not so. Are you equating me with the Taliban? Again, being against murder doesn't really equate well with that. I'm not out there advocating hanging gays. I'm saying murder because you couldn't be bothered to avoid making a child is abhorrent. (murder of a child is equally abhorrent to me no matter the circumstances surrounding its conception. It's a baby or it's not. To me it is. I came to that position in biology, neurology, embryonic development, lifespan development, and other courses)

www.secularprolife.org

Momof4, poor writing on my part if you thought that my "She" referred to you. It did not. No

BunnyGirl, think it's this one: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn3927-women-can-ovulate-more-than-once-a-month.html#.U2q-7NNMHFo

Which has a link to abstract... no doubt, if you do it how you describe, it may work, but not everyone is careful. In retrospect, my ex prolly just wanted another kid, and convinced me this would work. The catch is it only works if you want it to. An "oops" is easy...

momof4: I'm getting closer to your POV every day it seems... ;-)

I'm pro-choice, but I think everyone needs to just tell the truth: a fetus is human. Clump of cells, yes, but human cells. never going to turn into a pony or a lilac bush. I think my rights come first, as the woman carrying those cells.
It's a really short step to decide that those cells are worthless to thinking that the container for those cells, ie the female body, is also worthless, which women need to realize.
This woman seems very stilly and thoughtless, but Cosmo's lust for clicks is disgraceful.

So if a fetus is a baby why is abortion not illegal and classified as murder?

Extra points if you include the words "liberals", "Democrats", or "Clinton" in your answer.

Thanks for the link. I'll read it when I have a chance. I know a lot of "oops" babies where the women say they were tracking their cycles meaning they had a cycle of so many days usually so estimated the ovulation day based on that. There are tons of apps for cycle tracking that do all the estimating for you. The only problem is that it's lacking actual data from the user. But yeah, definitely requires both partners to do their part to prevent. It's definitely not for everyone.

I'm an athiest. And I think at some point abortion is murder.

I'm also a fairly amoral person and have no problem with killing people under certain circumstances.

There are too many people on the planet. Thats reason enough for people to abort, let alone the various valid medical reasons.

I won't quite get to murder, but I think a 20 week limit is about right, with an exception for viability, mother's health, etc.