It's really sad out there, where "unwanted contact" has now been weaponized.

I've read elsewhere, that, more and more, men are avoiding relationships (That would be "Men on Strike", which I learned about from another outstanding site, Instapundit) in favor of so-called "hookup culture" . . .simply because the legal and social risks of relationships, in all too many cases today, outweigh the advantages.

We don't need a truce, we need a negotiated settlement. One that doesn't involve the proposition that all men are rapists would be a good start. . .

So that empowered bit is a lie? I apologize for pointing out the contradiction.

You're right Amy that Chipotle message is a total fabrication.

The only men calling me "girl!" are the ones interested in what foundation I'm wearing.

Just look at the exclamation marks in "call me!!" This is obviously written by an inexperienced woman.

Anyways I was hanging out with an unpleasant group of broads and when they asked me how I met men I told them one of my favorite relationships was a guy I met at the liquor store. They were shocked and had a bunch of questions.

The only thing I gathered was that they were either never approached by men or never knew how to handle it.

I've been approached by men I don't like sure--but I've also met some men that I was very fond of.

As to my favorite story one guy asked my friend if he could "put my penis in your vagina"

Many (most? all?) of these women who constantly complain about male attention protest too much. They are, in effect, bragging about how irresistible they are to the opposite sex. As I walk through a campus filled with thousands of young women, frankly, I find very few in the "irresistible" class. Woman who download the bell hooks app are wishful thinkers.

And what do these woman think of men? From a Salon commenter: "Let's be honest... your average straight guy thinks he's a total hunk if he just combs his hair once a day and wears clothes that don't stink too bad when he picks them up off the floor." Again, I think such comments are self-aggrandizing. The commenter is saying that she is SO far above the fellows who dare to seek her company. She is a princess troubled constantly by fools.

Oh, I think I had a roommate who gave out the # for St. E's in DC (mental hospital.) Same diff, without the preachiness.

How is it "empowering" to hide behind a fake number?

because we’re raised to know it’s safer to give a fake phone number than to directly reject an aggressive guy.

because we’re raised to know that evasion or rejection can be met with violence.

Because you were raised to fear men by a mother who feared them and passed on her fears to you. That's not empowerment.

I wonder if these are the same ladies who helped "Fifty Shades of Grey" sell over 100 million copies.

"Oh, I think I had a roommate who gave out the # for St. E's in DC (mental hospital.) "

Yeah, nothing really new here... when I lived in S. Florida, all of the guys had memorized the number of the local suicide prevention hotline, since that was one that was often given out as a fake number by the local ladies.

Haven't women been giving out fake phone numbers since Alexander Graham Bell was in diapers? What's new and different about this?

As to my favorite story one guy asked my friend if he could "put my penis in your vagina

I love direct communication. If a decent-looking guy said that to me, I would probably consider it.

Now that I'm 32 I've come to realize that I'm not hideous and have a better-than-average body. I've been asked on dates by exactly two men, one of which I had to decline because I was engaged.

A few years ago a guy honked at me in the Sam's Club parking lot. I went up to his truck to find out why, and he told me his teenage son, who was sitting next to him "thinks you look good." The son was shaking his head and looking mortified.

My daughter was only 5 months old at the time, so I was happy with the compliment.

I don't know who the hell these women are who see every instance of male attention as a sex crime. I really doubt any man actually wants to be in the same room as these women, let alone risk their penises inside one.

Well back in the '70s my divorced mother would go out bar hopping with friends. If she met up with a guy she wasn't really interested in and he asked for her number she would give him one. She had the number for dial-a-prayer memorized. ;-)

I've had sleazy men call me "girl". Usually street people trying to get money, "Hey girl, you're looking beautiful!" It's definitely worth a quarter.

> "because we’re raised to know that evasion or rejection can be met with violence." ... "because we’re raised to know that evasion or rejection can be met with violence"

What is the difference 'in principle' between regarding all men as potentially violent, and the way some racists regard black people as potentially violent?

Is there a qualitative difference between statements like the above, and statements like this:

"because we're raised to know that you should lock your car doors if black people are nearby"

"because we're raised to know that you should cross the street if a black person is behind you"

This is an honest question.

Not surprised Lobster's question remains unanswered.

I was no Angelina Jolie either but this used to happen to me ALL THE TIME until I was about 30. Even if I responded with a curt "fuck off" they would hound and howl and generally refuse to go away. I always ended up having to leave. People who think this is an exaggeration have no idea, none at all.

That doesn't mean I don't think feminists aren't idiots who are ruining Western Civilization. I do think this. It's just that people who haven't experienced this high-quality problem really don't know what they're talking about.