Washington State's Paranoid Idiocy About "Advertising" Marijuana For Sale
Darren Smith guest-blogs at Turley about the ridiculousness of The Washington State Liquor Control Board (LCB) in crafting administrative rules surrounding pot sales "that border on absurdity."
I would say they don't just border on it. Here's just a bit from their set of restrictions on advertising:
The WAC prohibits a licensee from placing and maintaining advertising "[w]ithin one thousand feet of the perimeter of a school grounds, playground, recreation center or facility, child care center, public park, library, or a game arcade..." However, the LCB went to a new limit of what it considers to be "placing."Moving vehicles apparently now fall within this definition of placement at a location. The LCB states that vans and delivery vehicles having a retailer's logo or other form of advertisement cannot travel as described within the 1000 foot limit of these areas where children frequent. Mobile advertisement signs fall into the same category somehow. So if a retailer has a store having only one roadway is out of luck if that street has a bus stop with a shelter.
Because of this restriction, if the retailer wished to have a delivery truck or vinyl advertisement on the side of their van, it would have to drive a rather circuitous route, avoiding all prohibited places such as schools, parks, bus stops, pinball arcades, etc.
We used to have a great business here that sold pot. Unlike the assholishly run bar near my house (from which I could hear music through the open front of the bar booming in my pillow a block away), they were great neighbors: quiet, neighborly, causing no problems for the neighborhood, and not bringing in the sort of loud, thuggish, pee-on-neighbors-cars-and-fences customers the bar does.
However, they were made to move by a similar law. Why? Because blocks away from the bar, there's some youth facility I never see youth going into. (Perhaps this is a timing thing -- I'm not roaming the streets when school lets out.)
The thing is, there's a liquor store one short block from the youth center, and anybody can enter it. The pot store had a guard at the front to keep out all the people the law said they had to. What, would kids get corrupted simply by walking by, while all the bars and the liquor store on our street somehow don't have this magical effect?








I agree the rules are ridiculous but, on the other hand, at least we (as in we, the people, via an initiative) have legalized pot, unlike the vast majority of states, some of which (Hello Alabama! Hi Mississippi! How ya doin', South Carolina?) may never legalize it.
My old pot-smoking & hiking buddy, from my first job in Seattle 35 years ago, was in town over Christmas and he picked up a joint at one of our new stores. We enjoyed it on a great* New Year's Day hike in the Cascades. Very potent stuff...didn't even need a full hit.
* we had cold weather and blue skies instead of one of our typical dreary gray rainy winter days.
JD at January 3, 2015 9:36 AM
It won't matter. The people that want pot will find it, advertising or no.
Steve Daniels at January 3, 2015 9:54 AM
P.S. one of the reasons for the "we must protect the children" provisions in the initiative was to appeal to mainstream voters.
From this 2012 Seattle Weekly article Alison Holcomb: Pot Mama:
Would the initiative have passed if it hadn't included these restrictions? Perhaps. I like to think it would have. But perhaps not. Perhaps they were necessary to get enough people on board.
JD at January 3, 2015 10:05 AM
Meanwhile, kids in a school probably, collectively, have more pot than any pot store.
Amy Alkon at January 3, 2015 10:43 AM
"Unlike the assholishly run bar near my house (from which I could hear music through the open front of the bar booming in my pillow a block away), they were great neighbors: quiet, neighborly, causing no problems for the neighborhood, and not bringing in the sort of loud, thuggish, pee-on-neighbors-cars-and-fences customers the bar does."
Good thing there's no law restricting the amount of noise that bar abets, huh?
Meanwhile...
"...kids in a school probably, collectively, have more pot than any pot store." is a fallacious citation. See "appeal to prior practice" and "two wrongs".
Radwaste at January 3, 2015 10:49 AM
Another P.S. in addition to having the restrictions like a ban on pot sales outlets within 1,000 feet of schools in order to appeal to mainstream voters, my understanding that another motivation behind these restrictions was to help keep the Feds at bay if the initiative passed, the fear being that if the restrictions -- especially those regarding children (see excerpt below) -- weren't present, the Feds would butt in.
This 2013 CNN piece notes
If we elect another Democrat, or a socially-liberal Republican (other than Rand Paul, I'm not sure who that might be) as president in 2016, I think the Justice Dept. will continue to refrain from challenging any state laws that legalize marijuana. However, I think it's quite likely that the Dept., under another Republican president, would do this.
JD at January 3, 2015 11:24 AM
...keeping the drug away from children
How's that working out for them, you think?
Easier to bust people with their 'legal' marijuana.
DrCos at January 3, 2015 12:30 PM
Comments here have described passing the bill as a political compromise with the "anti-prohibition" idea. I think that's correct.
I lived in Washington when hard liquor was only sold through state operated stores. These WA bureaucrats on the Liquor Control Board are kind of like liberals on gun control. They are so afraid of it they won't learn any of the details and they end up sounding like dummies.
Canvasback at January 3, 2015 7:45 PM
If we elect another Democrat, or a socially-liberal Republican (other than Rand Paul, I'm not sure who that might be) as president in 2016, I think the Justice Dept. will continue to refrain from challenging any state laws that legalize marijuana
Sorry, but the Obama admin said something similar in 2009 w/ the Ogden Memo. The media reported that Obama was giving state's med marijuana laws more leeway.
Yet a closer look at the memo revealed a statement not much different than previous administrations, and consequently, even though the number of dispensaries doubled, Obama and the DEA made more raids on dispensaries in one term than both of Bush's combined. Tripled the money spent on enforcement, too.
Meanwhile, CNN recently ran a brainless story telling us how Obama dialed back the DEA during his presidency.
As you might expect, some people who follow it closely are skeptical about this new statement.
Jason S. at January 4, 2015 11:53 AM
And good for Washington state for keeping pot advertisements away from schools and youth centers.
Oakland, CA and Richmond, CA ban alcohol ads within 1000 feet of schools. Why not do the same for marijuana?
Besides, within 20 years we'll realize alcohol and drug legalization is a failure?
Jason S. at January 4, 2015 12:13 PM
"Hello Alabama!"
You might be surprised. We had a thread here last year in which we uncovered the fact that Alabama currently has more liberal craft-beer and wine laws than California does.
Cousin Dave at January 5, 2015 1:02 PM
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