What would the school pay in settlement if he accidentally, while kicking things around, hurt himself or another kid?

Controlling a person against their is difficult and iffy if you want to be/look gentle.

One wonders how quick they'd have been to handcuff the kid had he been white.

Just as quickly, Grey Ghost, it aint about the skin color, its about the cock.

Its about the fact that all males are really violent abusers and rapists and we need to always be ready to smack them down before they get any badthought

So many current social and governmental problems touched on by this one:

* The inability or unwillingness of schools to handle ordinary misbehavior.

* The zero-tolerance, cookbook philosophy to problem solving.

* The treatment of boys as defective girls.

* The criminalization of everything.

We are raising our 5 yo grandson who is also ADHD. He is often violent, but usually only with us. He has been in Kindergarden for about a month and there have been no problems, so far.

He was underparented, which we found out after Child and Family Services became involved. At family gatherings and when his mother and he came for dinner, he got lots of attention and lapped it up. At home, we have found out, he was put in front of the TV while she lived on her phone.

We have been advised to wrap him up (restrain him gently) and rub his arms or legs while talking softly to him when he becomes agitated. This seems to work most of the time to bring him out of his anger.

If her were put in handcuffs, it would not stop him. It would just mean that he wouldn't be able to use his hands to protect himself when he fell or ran into something.

If they treated him like a gun-toting perp, they would have shot him.

Steamer,
We had good luck teaching our son to use a punching bag to take his frustration on. It required role-playing and not tolerating any other behavior to make it work.

To everyone else it is not unusual to require these kids to wear helmets because they start slamming their heads into things w/o warning.

Our whole country is backwards. Criminal matters such as rape are to be handled by schools. School disciplinary matters are to be treated as crimes.

I can't figure out when I woke up in Superman's Bizzaro World.

Thanks Bob. The problem is that it isn't a slow buildup that we can recognize and have him work it off with a punching bag. We can tell him "No" 19 times and he has no problem and on the 20th time, he flips and starts hitting. We are trying to reverse 5 years of neglect on the part of my wife's daughter. He is much better than he was in January when he came to live with us, so we have hope that he will build the connection with us and will come to trust us.

He did try to hurt himself in the first few months, but he hasn't for a long time.

I can't figure out when I woke up in Superman's Bizzaro World. ~ Posted by: Bill O Rights at November 4, 2015 11:29 AM

We're using the police as social workers and school administrators as police - and given neither the proper training for the job. And we wonder why both seem to be incompetent at the jobs we've assigned them.

Real crimes have become administrative affairs and administrative affairs have become crimes.

Let that be a lesson to you. Don't date in school or cut up in class. Rob a bank instead.

"Cameron... told his mother that he was handcuffed... because he kicked a cart and refused to sit down"

"Cameron says that he never hit or threatened any of the other children..."

"Cameron's mother... said that her son... is not a violent person and has never exhibited any signs of violent behavior... He's hyper... But he is not a violent kid."

In comments above:

Steamer says, "We are raising our 5 yo grandson who is also ADHD. He is often violent, but usually only with us."

Bob says, "We had good luck teaching our son to use a punching bag to take his frustration on... it is not unusual to require these kids to wear helmets because they start slamming their heads into things w/o warning."

And then Steamer says, "...it isn't a slow buildup that we can recognize and have him work it off with a punching bag. We can tell him 'No' 19 times and he has no problem and on the 20th time, he flips and starts hitting."

According to the video, Police Chief James Tolbert said that the police were called for "immediate assistance with a child who appeared intent on injuring himself, as well as repeatedly assaulting others. The officer used handcuffs to restrain the child to prevent injury to the child or others.'"

I think that Steamer and Bob know what they're talking about. And I think that Cameron and his mother are drastically minimizing Cameron's behavior and not being honest when they emphasize that he's no threat to others and don't even mention his danger to himself.

Putting handcuffs on a 7-year-old... that just sounds ridiculous (and losing the key... that's just stupid). But if that child injured himself in a place where that cop, or that teacher, or someother adult is supposed to make him safe, what do you think Cameron's mother would be saying then? That adult would have hell to pay (I've seen that happen)

What is that cop or teacher supposed to do? Speak magic words? Or maybe "wrap him up (restrain him gently) and rub his arms or legs while talking softly to him when he becomes agitated"? (see Steamer's comment above). Now, what do you think Cameron's mother would be saying if she got called down to the school and heard innocent little Cameron's version of that? I work with kids, and I would never, never, never do that. Because the day I wrap someone else's kid up and rub her/his arms and legs while talking softly to her/him, would be my last day in this profession, and quite possibly my last day outside of a jail. I suppose the same would apply to a teacher, school administrator, and possibly even a cop.

That kid may very well have behavioral problems, but handcuffs are not the answer. Nor is having a cop come deal with him.

I've seen plenty of kids whose moms probably wished for a set of handcuffs.

OK, maybe not cops and handcuffs. So what can you do?

Sometimes, more often than thought by most people who aren't responsible for the immediate safety of emotionally unstable kids who violently freak out and the kids around them, not using physical force, physical or mechanical restraints, or forced seclusion is not an option. And using them in public schools is usually not an option.

But even if force and restraints are unavoidable, there are options that don't involve cops - or at least don't involve them often - and don't require handcuffs. Maybe they use softer restraints made with fabric and Velcro. Instead of hauling a little kid off to juvenile detention they can lock him in a seclusion room at the school (certain kinds of schools have them and there are state and federal laws regulating their use)

Sometimes a school assigns a therapist or nurse to be one-to-one with a kid while he's in school. If the kid's behavior is predictable, the school can assign the one-to-one staff when he starts to escalate. If the kid's dangerous behavior is sudden and unpredictable he might even have a one-to-one therapist or nurse from the time he leaves home in the morning until he gets back home in the evening, including on the bus to and from (I know therapists and nurses who do just that full time)

Maybe a kid whose behavioral problems make him a danger to himself or others shouldn't be in a regular school. There are special schools for kids with dangerous or seriously disruptive behaviors where there are literally more staff than there are students, and many of the students have a one-to-one staff member within one step at all times. At two of the schools run by the for-profit organization I work for a class might have 12 students and seven or eight staff. Staff from those schools come to the facility where I work for part of their orientation and training.

It's true, with the little kids, you don't need cops and handcuffs. That looks ridiculous. You can have therapists and clinicians do pretty much anything a cop can do, with a less authoritarian appearance and demeanor, and use softer, less harsh restraint techniques.

Somebody want to say why this is a new problem?

What kind of police officer loses the key to the handcuffs immediately after handcuffing a 7-year-old? It's not like he had to chase down a bank robber afterward and lost them in the pursuit.

Presumably, he put them in his pocket or on his belt and then, perhaps, turned around to talk to someone; not engaged in fisticuffs or got involved in a shootout.

Did he check the couch cushions in the principal's office?

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Chief Wiggum: "Where on my badge does it say anything about protecting people?"
Lou: "Uh, second word, chief."

Again and again, I say: It amazes me that teachers usually have to study hard for four years to get a certificate, but even the most rotten, spoiled 6-year-old has to do very little, if anything, to avoid getting expelled. (Like not hitting, biting or spitting on a daily basis.)