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Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority” and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”

Mizzou is a lawsuit a way from being reminded that they can't just ignore the Constitution.

What infuriates me is that the Jschool faculty are considering removing Ms. Click's courtesy appointment and allegedly the vote is close. You people live and die by the aforementioned First Amendment, and people like Click don't seem to understand that it applies to speech they don't like. How can the vote be fucking close? it should be a slam dunk, along the lines of

"We accept your resignation, Ms. Click"

"I didn't resign!"

"You can resign, or your appointment can be rescinded, but in either case you're done here."

I don't accept Ms. Click's apology. She acknowledged she did wrong, but that's only part of it. She needs to decide how she can make it right. Calling the reporters and apologizing is only one part of it.

She also needs to impress upon her students that she did wrong, explain to them what she should have done and why she should have done it. She created a very wrong impression on the minds of her students, and she needs to make damned sure she fixes it.

Someday Ms. Click may herself be forcibly removed from some discussion, and she will be baffled and confused.

If I were a reporter, the lesson I'd learn is to bring my own squad of goons with me the next time I set foot on a campus or at any leftist demonstration.

I see this and I wonder if the reason they don't want press coverage is because these "kids" don't want their parents to see the reason why they're drowning in student debt that it'll take decades to pay.

Complaint filed against Click:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mizzou-student-files-complaint-against-professor-who-called-for-muscle/ar-BBmVsl1?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=DELLDHP

Good for him, I hope he wins! After all, it IS assault.

Sometimes people use “respect” to mean “treating someone like a person” and sometimes they use “respect” to mean “treating someone like an authority” and sometimes people who are used to being treated like an authority say “if you won’t respect me I won’t respect you” and they mean “if you won’t treat me like an authority I won’t treat you like a person”

Posted by: Aaron H. at November 10, 2015 10:52 PM

Good points, but let's not forget that IF, say, we were talking about a teacher and a young child, the teacher would have every right to feel that way.

The problem is that it's unfair to expect a little kid to know which meaning is which when the verb "respect" can have at least four different meanings.

That is, many people don't understand that there are FOUR types of respect, which overlap much of the time, but they don't have to. Namely, in order, grudging acceptance (as to someone in the community whose politics you loathe), common courtesy, deference (as to a superior) and admiration.

Miss Manners understands this well, and she says that, regarding the need for kids to respect their parents, she would prefer people to use the expression "TREAT your parents with respect."

Here's why:

July 2, 2008;
Dear Miss Manners:
A group of friends and I are having a discussion regarding good manners and respect. My view is that respect comes from understanding and having good manners, whereas it is being put to me that good manners and respect are two distinctly separate things that can be had one without the other. We would be very interested in learning your thoughts on the matter, and I would consider them to be the final word on the subject.

Gentle Reader: Promising Miss Manners that her word will be the final one, even before you have heard it -- now, that is respect. She thanks you.
Yet she admits that the term "respect" is rather loosely used in the manners business. This leads to the sort of argument in which a parent says, "You have to show more respect for Granny," and the child replies, "Why, since she just got out of jail for petty larceny?"

The sort of respect to which the parent is referring is a part of good manners. It means exhibiting consideration toward everyone and showing special deference to those who are older or in a position of authority.

But the child hears the word to mean the genuine admiration felt for someone who has proved himself to be worthy of it. That sort of respect is, indeed, a thing apart, which etiquette cannot mandate.

Manners require only that people show respect, although with the secret hope that the outward form will become internalized. What people feel as they size up individuals is up to them.

(end)

So, one might say: "Courtesy is your right; admiration is what you earn."

However, "common courtesy towards adults," when you're a child, clearly mandates deference, though not admiration.