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The @TSA took my pimento cheese

A Ramones song?

She went away for the holidays
Said she's going to L.A.
But she never got there
She never got there
The TSA took my pimento cheese away

No, I have to disagree with you. The terror and the generally disgusting nature of pimento cheese spread must be ended today. Anyone caught with this vile substance should be sentenced to five years of eating nothing but Jello salad. I for one, and glad someone finally stood up to this underreported menace to society.

"Anyone caught with this vile substance should be sentenced to five years of eating nothing but Jello salad. "

Jeez, it's not like he was trying to smuggle in horseradish.

Oh for Pete's sake, stop the insanity.

It's only the actual weapons they miss ...

You go off the rails right here. Weapons, guns and knives, are made of inorganic materials.

Explosives are (self disclosure, I am working from memory here, because I don't have enough time for research) made of organic materials.

The TSA doesn't want to care about weapons -- they tried not to several years ago, and the flight attendants unions shouted the TSA down.

I, as a pilot, don't care overly much about weapons. Yes, it is bad if they get on board, but not a lot of people are going to get killed if they do.

Explosives, though, can be Game Over. There is no more bang for Islamofascist buck than a bomb on an airliner -- something the size of a beer can brought down the Russian airliner over the Sinai.

Which is why this Palmetto Cheese thing matters. It is organic. Organic materials light up the security screen. Now, whether it is glorified cheese whiz, or something altogether more sinister, is a little harder to figure out.

So, short answer: don't be stupid and try to bring that stuff through security.

Oh, and don't be ignorant by thinking weapons and explosives are the same thing.

Put down the Cheez Whiz, Mustafa, and back away from the crackas!

"Oh, and don't be ignorant by thinking weapons and explosives are the same thing."

I don't. Now, for your part, don't be ignorant by thinking that the same people who can be bribed to put drugs on an airplane actually know what they're allowing onboard - independently of the TSA gropefest.

By the way - if you are actually interested in determining the risks, and ways a commercial ariliner can be dropped, part of your research should include a lengthy reading of the Jet Airliner Crash Data Evaluation Center.

I wonder... can this cheese be bought after the TSA check, like beverages? If so, who checks the vendor's product to make sure each and every container is actually cheese or that beverage?

I bet it's nobody.

Less than a month after a news outfit reported that dozens of airport employees around the country have potential ties to terrorists, officials from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) admit that only three airports in the United States require workers to undergo security checks. The astounding admission, delivered this week before Congress, comes on the heels of a number of cases involving gun and drug-smuggling schemes operated by airline employees at major airports, including those located in Atlanta, New York and San Francisco.

Now who, pray tell, is screening for bombs - and where?

Radwaste:

There is a great deal of ignorance in your comment above.

How about following your link to its sources, then get back to me.

By the way - if you are actually interested in determining the risks ...

How about doing me a favor and pointing me to where I, burdened by 37 years of professional experience, can determine risks that I don't already know.

That way I can rely upon your super-big forehead geniosity, rather than have to plow through the whole darn thing.

"Explosives are (self disclosure, I am working from memory here, because I don't have enough time for research) made of organic materials."

Well, sort of, but that isn't really what the detectors key off of. Explosives have a fuel component and an oxidizer component. There are all sorts of different fuel components that are used, (nearly?) all of which are hydrocarbons of some sort. Of course, banning hydrocarbons in general isn't practical (nearly everything that isn't metal contains hydrocarbons), and trying to pick out the specific ones used in different explosives would be a very difficult task.

However, most explosives use a nitrogen salt or oxide of nitrogen as the oxidizer component. Because nitrates don't appear in that many other substances, that's what the detectors look for. It gets fooled sometimes by hand lotions that contain nitrates, or by someone who spilled gasoline on their hands while filling up the rental car on the way to the airport. (Some brands of gasoline contain nitrogen oxidizers for better octane rating and pollution reduction.) Actually, the explosive detectors that the TSA has been trying to use seem to not be very good. That's government contracting for you.

So no, pimento cheese spread should not set off the explosive detector, because it doesn't contain nitrates.

Cousin Dave:

Thanks for taking the time to fill me in on the details.

SFAIK, items that could be explosives, or turned into explosives when combined with other items, do show up on X-ray screening in a color distinct from other items. (Not an explosive detector, which is a different thing.)

Screeners can't tell which among those items are harmless, which is why they don't passengers bringing such things in more than small amounts.

You would think a famous former news anchor would have enough intellectual horsepower to realize that pimento cheese was way beyond what famous news anchors are allowed to pass through security.

Or maybe my expectations of former news anchors are just too high.

I don't think you are correct Jeff. The scanners can typically determine density and shape. So things that look like a brick and have the density of paper set of the scanner (it looks like bundled money). Detecting what can actually be turned into an explosive is beyond their capabilities.

Ben:

You are right, in that current x-ray machines cannot distinguish explosives from other things.

But they can tell what things could possibly be explosives (they show on the screen in a different color) which means they have a huge false positive rate.

So a tub of pimento looks exactly like a tub C4.

I suspect an x-ray of this former news anchor's skull would reveal a hard vacuum.

"How about doing me a favor and pointing me to where I, burdened by 37 years of professional experience, can determine risks that I don't already know."

It's simple. Read what I and others have written, addressing your mistake.

I'm not holding my breath, though, because you still don't seem to "get it".

Business consultant Peter Drucker called your attitude "the arrogance of the learned", in which a person assumes that their knowledge in one field, or personal experience, conveys authority to them when speaking about other fields.

Time and time again, I and others have pointed out the fatal flaws in the idea you put forth: that the TSA positively prohibits bombs on airplanes.

Your position is a logical fallacy, present no matter who points it out, because you have not demonstrated cause and effect.

You have been shown repeatedly, repeatedly, repeatedly that TSA personnel are untrained, apathetic and in some cases actually criminal. They routinely fail to find things which are obvious. They operate to confiscate items which have traveled on aircraft for decades without problems. They do not prohibit access to the aircraft by dozens of unscreened persons.

The threat is identified as radicals who have no problem killing infidels, sometimes by suicide attack, which indicates a level of determination that would drive them to another venue - yet that hasn't happened, much less in a way that says TSA drove them away.

Have the TSA actually find a bomb on its way into the passenger compartment of an airplane. That will prove that the threat actually exists - but you will still have to fix the other flaws noted, because the bomb they find will not be the only one if the threat exists.

"You would think a famous former news anchor would have enough intellectual horsepower to realize that pimento cheese was way beyond what famous news anchors are allowed to pass through security."

I would think a person touting their decades of experience would recognize that a truly professional security service would be able to tell what Pimento Cheese Spread was.

I called the laptop bomb AND the bombing of people in line years ago right here in this blog. What has that 37 years of professional experience done for you other than convince you the Emperor is fully clothed?

Oh, yeah - one more thing from Amy's link above:

"In addition, TSA agents are using more thorough passenger screening tactics after terrorist attacks in Europe and news last summer that 67 of 70 fake bombs got past TSA agents as part of regular security tests."

I bolded the best part for you all.

Radwaste:

I and others have pointed out the fatal flaws in the idea you put forth: that the TSA positively prohibits bombs on airplanes.

You know, that idea that I put forth would, in fact, be fatally flawed.

Except for one problem, jackass. I never said any such thing.

So before you start accusing me of logical fallacies, how about you stop telling me what I said, and rely on direct quotes, instead.

Oh, and one more thing. I can tell you still haven't relieved yourself of your ignorance -- it always pays to go to primary sources.

So do that, and stop putting words in my mouth, then get back to me.

Okay, great!

Now the TSA does NOT keep bombs off airplanes!

Agreement!

Because, experience!

I and others have pointed out the fatal flaws in the idea you put forth: that the TSA positively prohibits bombs on airplanes.

Which, after completely failing to substantiate your bovine excreta, is not ...

Now the TSA does NOT keep bombs off airplanes!

Radwaste is the long way around to spell "troll".

Bookmarked.

Asshole.