Why You Should Give Your College-Bound Son Money For Escorts
Dating female students could ruin his college education, his career prospects, and his life, thanks to how the Title IX "Dear Colleague" letter is being interpreted on campuses. Laura Berman writes for Bridge:
The facts are largely undisputed: Two college students on summer break - he's a sophomore; she, a freshman - make a date. It's Memorial Day weekend, 2014, and their intentions are explicit. They meet and have sex - consensual, enthusiastic - when a passerby interrupts them.A few hours later, still together, the male student attempts to resume the sexual encounter. He reaches under her shirt to touch her breast. He stops immediately when she asks him to. They agree about these facts.
Yet this "one-time, non-consensual touching," as university documents summarize it, is the crux of a startling Michigan State University sexual misconduct case. It has generated a thick stack of legal documents, months of MSU administrator time, and tens of thousands of dollars in legal bills since the female student, known here as Melanie, formally complained on Sept. 25, 2015 - almost 16 months after the incident.
More importantly, though, the case - which has traveled through an internal appeals process, exhausting the now-22-year-old man's hope for reversal of sanctions at the university level - challenges what some might see as common-sense assumptions about sex and dating behavior. MSU's findings draw sharply etched lines into the blurry world of dating intimacy and reveal the power of university administrators to mark a student as a sexual offender - for touching a lover's breast after sex, miles from campus, without any accusations of violence, intimidation or stalking behavior.
Deborah Gordon, the Bloomfield Hills lawyer representing the man, says she intends to file a federal lawsuit against the university. She calls the case "beyond ridiculous."
...The male MSU student, whose name is redacted from official documents and changed here to Nathan, has not been charged with or convicted of a crime by local police authorities. But he has been formally disciplined for sexual harassment by MSU, under federal Title IX anti-discrimination law - a ruling that he and his family say they fear will haunt him for life, and that his lawyer says has already cost him at least one career opportunity.
via @CHSommers
Wow! Is this where we're headed? If my dad would have never gotten my mom drunk and cajoled her into sex, I would have never been born, my daughters would have never been born, and the world around my awesome family would have been a lot less interesting.
Michael Musashi at January 22, 2017 9:17 PM
I'm guessing she filed becuase he dumped her
He should have filed his own report, claimed she initiated the first sexual encounter without getting his consent.
Also screwing an off campus girl wont help
Recall the guy expelled because the father of a non student complained?
Or the guy expelled because he was sexually assaulted while passed out drunk?
And let us not forget that according to many college codes of conduct withholding sex is also sexual assault
lujlp at January 22, 2017 10:31 PM
I have to wonder--why did this cost "Nathan" a career opportunity? Wasn't the company that was going to hire him made aware of the facts of the case, and don't they realize how unfair these college procedures are?
Rex Little at January 22, 2017 10:51 PM
And this is why Spring Break was created. Everyone gets drunk, and have sex with anonymous college people in Veracruz, Mexico.
Sixclaws at January 23, 2017 4:15 AM
And yet, if a professor performs sexual assaults, it just never happened. http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2016/12/15/michigan-state-sexual-assault-harassment-larry-nassar/94993582/
MSU neighbor at January 23, 2017 4:36 AM
Rex Little,
A company can't risk the wrath of diversity institutions, the EEOC, or the Department of Labor. It's much better to just not hire someone with the controversy of a "sexual assault" allegation, especially if there are any candidates 80% as good as that candidate. Plus, if the accused individual were to be accused of any kind of sexual harassment, the company would be liable for damages for hiring someone with a "known history" of sexual assault.
spqr2008 at January 23, 2017 5:50 AM
Rex Little,
A company can't risk the wrath of diversity institutions, the EEOC, or the Department of Labor. It's much better to just not hire someone with the controversy of a "sexual assault" allegation, especially if there are any candidates 80% as good as that candidate. Plus, if the accused individual were to be accused of any kind of sexual harassment, the company would be liable for damages for hiring someone with a "known history" of sexual assault.
spqr2008 at January 23, 2017 6:08 AM
Parents are responsible for getting their children laid?
Crid at January 23, 2017 7:21 AM
Reading the article, the funniest part of this sad affair is that the kid is a progressive, son of progressives, and they met in a group named "COMPASS" that is aimed at men making campus a more respectful and safe space. So, clearly this kid joined up to get friendly with all the liberal girls, then was guillotined by his own side. Doesn't make the actions against him right, but it does make it funny.
spqr2008 at January 23, 2017 7:42 AM
I know people like to think that women are empowered and are selling sex just like it were tupperware, but this is usually not the case. We should not be making it easier for people to be sold into slavery by calling it an "industry" There is nothing empowering about buying and selling human beings for money. Tell your sons to stop fucking whatever will take him and develop a relationship.
Stormy at January 23, 2017 7:45 AM
@Crid: Parents are responsible for getting their children laid?
Kind of takes that helicopter parenting thing to a whole new level, doesn't it?
Old RPM Daddy (OldRPMDaddy at GMail dot com) at January 23, 2017 7:47 AM
I know people like to think that women are empowered and are selling sex just like it were tupperware, but this is usually not the case.
Usually? got real numbers? remember, the plural of "anecdote" is not data.
But I'll take a different tact than yours and agree that it's a bad idea because if a Title XI coordinator finds out your kid is consorting with escorts, they'll file a complaint on behalf of the non-student escort(s).
And you're right back in front of a witch trial. Bind him hand and foot and throw him in the river. If he floats, he's a witch, burn him at the stake, if he sinks, well that was an unfortunate death, but at least he's not a witch. So there is that.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 23, 2017 8:01 AM
And the punchline at the end of the original article is that the female referred to in the beginning is now identifying as male.
Scott at January 23, 2017 10:17 AM
Verb, 2.
Crid at January 23, 2017 10:19 AM
Off campus summer sex is under their control? One should also keep in mind that "college students" can be any age, not just 19 yr olds. Do they presume to do this to a 50 yr old getting his MBA for sex at his own house miles from campus? And 16 months after the event? No hope of getting clear evidence at that point. In a real rape, the police urgently require a rape kit and evaluation for injuries right away or the case becomes much weaker.
Stormy: developing a "relationship" won't help the boy. Many of the sexual assault cases on campus arose from longer term dating arrangements, including many sexual encounters, where the boy ended it--revenge accusations. Imagine that. Boys have even been punished when the girl was in their dorm room and could have just left, with people nearby who would have come to help, and who voluntarily took off their own clothes. It boils down to "did she feel bad about it later?" because feelz
cc at January 23, 2017 10:43 AM
The history of democracies is to fail under high taxes and tribal control, replaced by dictatorship. Obama has staffed the government with true believers in the socialist utopia of the future. This requires detailed control and changes in human behavior. The doctrine sent to colleges by the Office of Civil Rights is a tryout for authoritarian control, and is a dream of the radical feminists in the government. It's a two'fer.
Floyd Ferris, a bureaucrat in the novel "Atlas Shrugged" by Ayn Rand:
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Did you really think that we want those laws to be observed? We want them broken. You better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against.
The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them.
One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone?
But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced nor objectively interpreted and you create a nation of law-breakers.
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Andrew Garland at January 23, 2017 12:15 PM
"Tell your sons to stop fucking whatever will take him and develop a relationship."
People respond to motivations. If we make it legally hazardous for young men to engage in relationships with women, then they won't do it. Is that what you want to happen?
I will say this, though. As I read up on these cases, it seems to me that in a lot of them, the complaint occurs either because the girl in question was browbeaten by the administration and campus activists, or it's a third-party complaint filed by someone acting on their own assumptions about what happened.
Cousin Dave at January 24, 2017 7:34 AM
The world must be made safe for slatterns and their drunken sluttery.
Jay R at January 24, 2017 2:47 PM
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