Like you've never seen Pamela Anderson getting knocked before.

Common sense. God, I miss it.

Pam was in Cocoa Beach, FL for surfer Kelly Slater's high school reunion years ago. The police presence was large, because Pam had a bunch of stalkers who had become obsessed with Baywatch.

I can be and have been stupefied by the appearance of a beautiful woman, but I know that such a work of art has its price. They are not to be soiled by grubby paws.

I am still wondering where I learned that a particular contour is rare and precious!

Or, if you go in ... get the job.

I think that's what fueled the #MeToo anger, not getting the job.

If you're gonna work in a whorehouse, there's only one thing to be: the best whore in the house.

I'm pretty sure you can take precautions to protect yourself from crimes and still blame perpetrators who commit crimes. I didn't realize these were mutually exclusive concepts.

I am a guy and I have escaped a mugging twice by being alert. Saw them stalking me and when I turned and ran they ran after me but I had a head start. Should I have just kept walking and gotten mugged? That is what the "don't blame the victim" types seem to suggest--take no precautions, it is always your right to do what you want.
I think of it this way: On the tombstone of the pedestrian who got run over because he was looking down at his phone, they can put "he had the right of way" ---but he is still dead.
As for sleeping your way to a promotion or movie part: do what you want but if you regret it later, suck it up. Regret is what common sense helps you avoid.

Thank you, Shtetl G.

And cc, please don't compare assaults to accidents. Of course, to take a different example, driving drunk is not an accident - but we don't see cops going on the local news before a big holiday weekend to tell SOBER drivers to stay off the road; they focus on drunk drivers instead, for very good reasons.

People do want to know, in advance, how criminals operate so they can make their OWN choices as to what to do or not do; they just don't like being force-fed a list of "don'ts," either face-to-face or in a newspaper article. (Reading such a list in a book is somewhat different.)

If you're a parent trying to protect your teen, you could simply tell her all the ways that assailants, both familiar and unfamiliar, tend to operate and then ask her, after each detail: "What do you think you would do in advance, now that you know that fact?"

From a well-known writer, over 20 years ago:

"A con artist is just as much a thief as if he'd broken into his victim's safe-deposit box. 'The complainant showed incredibly bad judgment, Your Honor,' is not a legal defense. Why is rape different?"

"I'm pretty sure you can take precautions to protect yourself from crimes and still blame perpetrators who commit crimes. I didn't realize these were mutually exclusive concepts."

""A con artist is just as much a thief as if he'd broken into his victim's safe-deposit box. 'The complainant showed incredibly bad judgment, Your Honor,' is not a legal defense. Why is rape different?""

Both of these reveal a spectacular omission on the nature of crime: A crime does not exist until it is committed.

You and the criminal will be the only persons on the scene when you are victimized. The criminal will engage in wholly legal activities on the way to and from the crime scene.

Where did anyone get the idea that defending themselves is someone else's responsibility?

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The question is asked, "Why is rape different?"

Because the circumstances leading up to many actual rapes often take time, and often involve the victim being sexually forward, sometimes to the point of actually stating they want to have sex with the perpetrator. Backlash against the idea of taunting some guy into criminal action has made some cry for "unwanted touch" to be a crime.

Is there really a "rape culture"?

Hollywood is run by pedofiles and populated with whores. It's long been known that you either suck d!ck or you take d!ck. That goes for both the men as well as the women.

I don't feel sorry for any of the "actresses" (many of them started out as escorts or were passed around from director to director - Denise Richards was one of Heidi Fleiss's girls) who come out now to claim "rape". Their are no virtuous women in Hollywood. Part of the price of fame is that you give that up in exchange for that super star life their loins ache for.

Crazy Days and Nights http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/ has long run blind items - some items which are eventually revealed - about all the lies, sickness and deceit that permeates Hollywood.

I despise everything Hollywood stands for.

Hollywood is run by pedofiles and populated with whores. It's long been known that you either suck d!ck or you take d!ck. That goes for both the men as well as the women.

I don't feel sorry for any of the "actresses" (many of them started out as escorts or were passed around from director to director - Denise Richards was one of Heidi Fleiss's girls) who come out now to claim "rape".

There are no virtuous men or women in Hollywood. Part of the price of fame is that you relinquish any semblance of morality in exchange for that super star life their loins ache for.

Crazy Days and Nights, or CDAN, http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/ has long run blind items - some items which are eventually revealed - about all the lies, sickness and deceit that permeates Hollywood.

I despise everything Hollywood stands for.

Did you hear the one about the virtue-signaling site-pimping troll who couldn't spell?

sometimes to the point of actually stating they want to have sex with the perpetrator. Backlash against the idea of taunting some guy into criminal action has made some cry for "unwanted touch" to be a crime.
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If she takes off all her clothes and then changes her mind (very likely, if she's a teen) it's still illegal to force her.

If a man heard the phone ring even in the middle of consensual sex and he knew it was a really important call, he'd stop. What's the difference when he hears the WORD "stop"?

And I don't like the term "rape culture," but I can hardly blame some people for using it - especially those who were molestation victims of religious leaders or students raped by other students at evangelical colleges, since people within those cultures tend to disbelieve them automatically. Why WOULDN'T they use that term, if they wanted to?

Correction - I should have said "tended."

"If a man heard the phone ring even in the middle of consensual sex and he knew it was a really important call, he'd stop."

Who is telling you these lies?!

"If she takes off all her clothes and then changes her mind (very likely, if she's a teen) it's still illegal to force her."

Obviously you missed that in the link...

Now: Name the specific point at which a crime occurs. People have lots of trouble being specific, mandatory for writing a statute, because people in the process of negotiating sexual behavior routinely say what they manifestly do not mean, and then their putative partner has to be convinced of the intended meaning.

I heard you say, "No means "No"". Now, say it after rubbing on the guy on the dance floor at a club known as "the hookup", where guns come out once a week, and see if you are believed. You spent three hours saying, "Let's do it!", and then ten seconds saying "No!"
Why, again, did you go there, and who is responsible for seeing that you leave safely?
Why, you are. The Supreme Court says no one else has a duty to protect you.

As a man, I know to stay out of situations like that. I look both ways before I cross the street, I lock my car and house when I am out of them, and I never point my pistol at anything I don't want to shoot, either.

I have this thing called, "responsibility".

From USLAW website: Whoever commits prostitution is guilty of a petty misdemeanor, unless such crime is a second or subsequent conviction, in which case such person is guilty of a misdemeanor."

(f) Criminal solicitation is a:

Class B misdemeanor if the offense solicited is a Class A misdemeanor.
Class C misdemeanor if the offense solicited is a Class B misdemeanor.
Violation if the offense solicited is a Class C misdemeanor."

Essentially, if a nameless Producer asks Ashley Judd to do things she willingly does in her films for him personally, it is at worst solicitation for prostitution, which MIGHT be a Violation offense.

That women don't like the VOLUNTARY OFFER doesn't make it rape. She is not owed a role.

That it is rude does not make it rape, otherwise Jim Acosta would never get out of jail.

That there MAY be a big paycheck if she complies has nothing to do with force, and everything to do with the woman's greed.

Now, BLACKMAIL is a distinct different offense and some of these women might have a good chance at a civil case.

But let's be clear here: blackmail is a consensual crime. Do this or this happens means that the person involved has a CHOICE, however unpalatable.

Because some women said no. Mia Sorvino. It puts the lack of character of an Ashley Judd in stark relief in comparison.

I have this thing called, "responsibility".
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Does that include the responsibility to have your teen son closely supervised if there's ANY chance he can't make himself

1) understand that a "no" by a woman is just as legally significant as his "no" when a man starts groping him - i.e., unwanted sex is not a myth and no judge cares if he thinks it is a myth.

2) stand up to peer pressure when it comes to ANY type of potential felony (like dropping boulders off overpasses)

3) call 911 or some other adult when he knows a friend of his is about to commit a felony.

P.S. If women locked themselves up when they couldn't get female friends to go with them to parties or elsewhere, it wouldn't be long before any woman who got into a car with her boyfriend would be considered "responsible" for being attacked. Much in the same way that if you're a woman in Egypt, it doesn't matter how you're dressed; if you're alone in public, you WILL be harassed or worse.

More on "being alone" and culpability, from 1994:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1994-10-28-9410280005-story.html

Quote:

"Your suggestion is similar to the one now being practiced by potential victims of muggers, who lock up, stay off the streets, and stay out of parks, various neighborhoods and other areas designated as dangerous-until they have virtually interned themselves and given over free use of public areas to the criminal element."

P.P.S. If one is at a club where people typically get into brawls for fun, I assume it's still illegal to hit someone who didn't want to fight.

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Who is telling you these lies?!

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How about "stop in time to answer the call"?

Or what if it's a child opening the door? I think plenty of fathers can attest to that problem - and the need to stop as soon as the door opens.

"Or what if it's a child opening the door?"

Good lord.

Have you even tried reading the site, Greg Magog Carpet Cumstain?

Yah. Didn't think so.

"And cc, please don't compare assaults to accidents. Of course, to take a different example, driving drunk is not an accident - but we don't see cops going on the local news before a big holiday weekend to tell SOBER drivers to stay off the road."

No one is saying that a woman is "responsible" if she is raped. All they are saying is, "don't do stupid stuff". Let's take the car-crash analogy a little further. What's the best way to avoid being hurt in a car crash? Don't be in one in the first place. Way too many drivers view car accidents as 100% fate; either you are in one or you aren't, and there is nothing you, as the driver, can do about it. Bullshit. I am nearly 60 years old; I've probably driven over 2 million miles in my life, and I've never been involved in anything worse than a fender bender. Now, there is a luck component to this -- but there's also the fact that I'm always watching the road for the dickhead who is playing video games on his phone. Anyone around me who does anything that is even the slightest bit hinky, I give them a wide berth. There have been times when I've gotten off the highway altogether, and either waited a while or took another route because there was too much crazy happening around me.
I've also done a bit of race driving and learned how cars behave under extreme conditions, so I have more capability to get out of tight situations (although relying on those skills is always the last resort). I'm not saying that you'll never be in a crash if you make yourself a better driver, but you do improve your odds a lot.

One more analogy...

Let's say a black man strolls into a white neighborhood that is notoriously dangerous for black people, even in broad daylight - and gets put in the hospital soon afterward. For days.

Maybe there would be some people - black as well as white - who would consider him "stupid" for doing that. However, I would hope that very, very few people would say that out loud, even online. For obvious reasons. (What's more, no one, I hope, would compare THAT to a traffic accident. What's the difference between the black man and a woman who was clearly forced - including the case of the unconscious woman? Why do people have so much more respect for the black male victim?)

Just because it's never going to be easy to stop children from growing up to be violent criminals (in part because violent crime has many different sources, just as there are different types of drunk drivers), it's no excuse not to focus primarily on the perpetrators - and as early as possible. That includes never assuming that your child will stand up to bad peer pressure - at any age.