In short, what the research finds -- from infancy on: males fight physically and females fight covertly, sabotaging other women.

Amy, you keep saying this and it's annoying as hell. You did mention male violence against women, but somehow you think women "fight[ing] covertly" is only used against other women. It isn't and never was.

Consider this incident of seven months ago, when a group of vicious high school girls ganged up on a boy and essentially ruined his life with false accusations because they simply didn't like him. I'm sure this boy has gone through or is going through considerable anguish as he's trying to figure out what he did to make this horrible girls hurt him so deeply.

(More likely, they simply did it without concerning themselves with the consequences of their actions.)

And the mantra of believe all women has produced a procession of women who, for whatever reason, have scores to settle. We're now living through an era of weaponized accusations, because a bunch of apologist self-described liberals convinced themselves they were being benevolent by declaring even the most implausible of accusations to be "very credible."

During the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh, I've heard countless individuals describe Christine Blasey-Ford has been described as "very credible."

I would love to know by what objective standard she is considered credible, much less "very credible." If credibility could be quantified, hers would be in the negative numbers. She hasn't a shred of corroborative evidence. And her own hand-picked witnesses have insisted they have no recollection of the event she described. In fact, one of her witnesses insisted that she has never in her life attended a party with Kavanaugh and didn't know him.

When the witnesses you name to corroborate your account actually testify against you, the very last word I would use to describe you is "credible."

Roy Moore, whom I consider as ill-suited to be a judge as any human being that has ever lived, also has evidence-free women accusers in his life.

While we might find perverse delight in seeing religious zealots exposed for taking inappropriate liberties with the underaged, again, there is no evidence to support the accusations.

But we're now living in a time when it's considered demonizing even to question an accuser. Women have never restricted their declarations of war to other women. And these days, it's just getting worse.

I’m ashamed to say that my grandmother was born a Reichert. This guy is most likely a distant cousin.

OTOH. Germans aren’t usually this dumb,

I feel like maybe you don't spend a lot of time around kids.

Yes, on average boys are more physical and girls more psychological, but I promise you girls get physical and boys get psychological as well.

It's important to remember we're talking averages not absolutes.

Patrick:

There are female individuals who will fight physically -- which is to say there are individual differences -- but in general, these are broad female patterns.

And male patterns.

Nicole also.

"sabotaging other women."

This is the bit I believe Patrick was complaining about Amy. Women don't just attack other women. They actually attack men at roughly the same frequency. The main difficulty in recognizing this is their attacks are psychological and due to the differing mentality between men and women many of their attacks are ineffectual.

[Women] actually attack men at roughly the same frequency. The main difficulty in recognizing this is their attacks are psychological and due to the differing mentality between men and women many of their attacks are ineffectual. ~ Ben at April 2, 2019 6:34 AM

Many of those attacks are not "ineffectual." Many of them are subtle and chip away at the foundation.

Mansplaining anyone? That bit of nonsense was an attack on men in general, and specifically on any man who had, at some point, attempted to explain something to a woman about a topic on which she felt herself sufficiently expert. Instead of accusing a few men of being condescending, she created an attack on her personally by all men.

Women's attacks on men are rooted in a society-wide acceptance of women being (and having been) less powerful - to be countered with vague and unprovable accusations of rape, unwanted touching, sex discrimination, cultural misogyny, patriarchy, etc.

She comes to the witness stand, doe-eyed and demure, accusing the big bad man of harming her in some less-than-provable way. The men in the room want to protect her while the women in the room are angry for her. She's manipulating emotions with her accusation, and she knows it.

Now, does this apply to every accusation? No, of course not. Nor is every woman a manipulator. However, every false accusation does a disservice to the woman experiencing a real attack, diminishing the willingness of others to put themselves forth in her defense.

It doesn't have to be on the witness stand or with an accusation of a crime. It's in relationship advice oriented to women's issues - he doesn't talk enough, or talks too much. It's in divorce statistics - women initiate the majority of divorces and gain the majority of child custody. It's in the workplace - active listening and harassment seminars abound with instructions to conform to more womanly ways of conducting business. It's on the subway - with posters asking men to refrain from "manspreading."

Ben: This is the bit I believe Patrick was complaining about Amy.

Ben is correct. You refer to "sabotaging other women," Amy. The mentality that fights covertly, by sneaking insinuations and unsupported accusations, is also deployed against men.

I have no idea if it's done "at roughly the same frequency." But that's Ben's claim, not mine.

And I gave examples. Yes, Blasey-Ford is merely one woman deploying a completely uncredible accusation against a man, but then look at all the women (mostly) who rallied behind her, and insisted that she should be believed without a shred of evidence and the Kavanaugh should be denied his appointment based solely on accusations.

If these women who were supporting Blasey-Ford are not actively engaged in sabotage, they are, at least, accessory to it.

And the "mean girls" whose accusations put a young man who did nothing wrong in juvenile detention isn't just about a handful of sociopathic high school girls. It's about the fact that the administrators of that school rallied to protect these girls.

It's not a few isolated incidents like these. It's the fact that these things get so much support that it's somehow considered okay for women to fabricate accusations against men. Not just in cases like Blasey-Ford, where there's absolutely no reason to believe a word she says, but even in the cases of the "mean girls," who actually admitted that they lied.

And, yes, that applies even to Roy Moore, who, as Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court, told the judges in his state to ignore the U.S. Supreme Court's decision of Obergefell v. Hodges., who is also a birther, ergo a lunatic.

There's simply no reason to believe the accusations against him, and a very good reason not to: there is no unbroken chain of accusations leading up to the present day. Since pedophiles are incorrigible, you'd think there would be.

Addendum: I do consider the accusations against Joe Biden to be credible, however. We have video evidence to corroborate him putting his hands (and lips) where they don't belong.

"Yes, on average boys are more physical and girls more psychological, but I promise you girls get physical and boys get psychological as well."

Remember, demographic statistics are good at telling you about the average behavior of large groups. They aren't necessarily good at telling you about the behavior of an individual. However, that doesn't mean the stats are invalid.

You haven't seen a knock-down, drag-out fight until you've seen two women who do not like each other have at. The difference being is that they're not bloody likely to have a beer together after clearing the air.

Unless they intend to poison each other. Keep in mind, they hit like girls, so the possibility of irreparable damage (death, severe injury, or loss of fertility) is minimal.

Fertility is the name of the game. Women look for men who can literally bring home the bacon with which to feed the women and children, and men look for women who can bear said children.

I stand by my words Conan. Just because psychological attacks are less effective (or obvious) as a punch in the nose doesn't mean they are ineffective. Being less susceptible to something doesn't make you invulnerable. Young girls especially will attempt to use the same aggressive behavior against boys as they do against fellow girls and then get very angry and frustrated as the boy in question completely ignores their attack, doesn't even notice it happened.

Also, I'll note that many who said #BelieveAllWomen and backed Blasey-Ford to the hilt now call the accusations against Biden lies.

Excuse me, I should have said Joe "Free Candy" Biden.

This Joe Biden meme was ahead of its time:

https://kotaku.com/joe-biden-gets-too-close-to-anime-girls-1688860574

Would you like to see the puppy in my van?

I stand by my words Conan. Just because psychological attacks are less effective (or obvious) as a punch in the nose doesn't mean they are ineffective. Being less susceptible to something doesn't make you invulnerable. Young girls especially will attempt to use the same aggressive behavior against boys as they do against fellow girls and then get very angry and frustrated as the boy in question completely ignores their attack, doesn't even notice it happened. ~ Ben at April 2, 2019 9:25 AM

Perhaps, on the schoolyard, the attacks are "ineffectual." However, in the adult world, these vague and unsubstantiated attacks have an effect and serve to undermine careers, social positions, and social institutions.

The waves of unsubstantiated or barely substantiated charges - Brett Kavanaugh, Roy Moore, Clarence Thomas, UVA Fraternity, #MeToo, etc. - serve notice that these attacks can have serious repercussions, especially in the hypersensitive world prior attacks have created.

The kinds of women who make these attacks are learning from previous mistakes. The attacks are no longer for actual crimes, but besmirch the reputation of the accused, nonetheless.

Joe Biden is not being accused of groping private parts or outright assault, nothing for which an accuser could be legitimately asked to provide proof. He stands accused of "being creepy," of making a woman "uncomfortable."

There are plenty of photos of Ol' Joe touching women or leaning over them, so the attack seems credible and refuting it is going to be impossible for him - it's essentially a middle school taunt of being "weird" that will follow him to high school and ruin his chances of ever dating the prom queen.

I have had need to confront a rearing horse, snarling dogs, aggressive geese, rattlesnakes, and muggers. Being able to be physical in all cases was important. We do not live in a magical world where one is always safe and flowers fall from the sky. It is still a dangerous place.

Conan:

Joe Biden is not being accused of groping private parts or outright assault, nothing for which an accuser could be legitimately asked to provide proof. He stands accused of "being creepy," of making a woman "uncomfortable."

He could be accused at least of battery, if not sexual assault. While the definition varies from state to state (and I know that at least one state, Washington, doesn't even have battery, only four degrees of assault), battery is generally any contact that a reasonable person would find offensive. Certainly, Joe's contact with these women and girls would easily qualify.

I know that most people probably think that battery has to cause injury, but that isn't true. There is one interesting case decided in 1967 by the Texas Supreme Court, Fisher v. Carrousel Motor Hotel.

The plaintiff, Fisher, was a mathematician employed by NASA attending a conference at the Carrousel Motor Hotel, which included a buffet luncheon at the hotel's restaurant, The Brass Ring Club.

Fisher took a plate and waited in line with his colleagues, but was approached by Brass Ring's manager, Robert W. Flynn, who took the plate out of Fisher's hands and said loudly that "a Negro" cannot be served in the Brass Ring.

Fisher admitted that he was not touched, nor did he have any apprehension of being touched. The jury at the trial court awarded him the damages he sought, but the judge reversed their decision on the grounds that there was no contact.

The Texas Supreme Court, on the other hand, ruled that any offensive contact with the effects of the person, such as a cane, clothing or anything held in the hands is certainly a battery as it still constitutes a breach of the inviolability of the body. And they awarded Fisher his settlement.

(Unfortunately, Robert W. Flynn would never get this reprimand; he died before the case was decided by the Texas Supreme Court.)

He could be accused at least of battery, if not sexual assault. ~ Patrick at April 2, 2019 7:09 PM

True, he could be, but he's not. He's being accused of nothing more than being creepy. The accuser, in this case, only says that he touched her and it made her "uncomfortable." The target audience for that accusation is every woman voter who ever had to deal with a lecherous or leering male boss.

Others have alleged more inappropriate touchings. However, Biden serving jail time is not the objective here; Biden dropping out of the race and ensuring that a woman is the Democratic nominee is the objective.

Sanders will get his shortly. The rumblings have begun with the alleged misconduct in his 2016 campaign. How the monstrous regiment of women will take out Beto is anyone's guess.

Beto has lots of problems. Not necessarily women problems but problems none the less. The whole fake hispanic running for a party that complains about cultural imperialism doesn't go over well. For the most part Beto is trying to pull an Obama, be vague and slightly upbeat. But Beto isn't black. He is hoping to replace that with hispanic but he isn't hispanic.

But it always depends on what your alternatives are. All the women in the race are Clinton style. They lie prolifically and unbelievably. Dopey Joe you already covered. But even without the woman angle Biden has a lot of baggage and issues. So who knows, Beto may be the best of the bunch.

"sex differences stop above the neck."

Except when it comes to the new ideology of gender identity, where sex differences are ENTIRELY above the neck.

This is one of the central self contradictions of progressive thinking. If it's your brain that makes you male or female, rather than your genitals or chromosones, then there must be a deterministic difference between male and female brains

"sex differences stop above the neck."

Except when it comes to the new ideology of gender identity, where sex differences are ENTIRELY above the neck.

This is one of the central self contradictions of progressive thinking. If it's your brain that makes you male or female, rather than your genitals or chromosomes, then there must be a deterministic difference between male and female brains