Hillary + Harvey, A Match Made In Big-Bucks Donations
Hillary Clinton plays mega-dumb about Harvey Weinstein in a Hollywood Reporter interview. I pulled it from ZeroHedge, because they concisely laid out the real deal:
Asked if Clinton had any regrets about her long friendship with Weinstein, she replied that she and her aides had no idea that he was a sexual predator"How could we have known?" Clinton said. "He raised money for me, for the Obamas, for Democrats in general. And that at the time was something that everybody thought made sense."Of course, anybody who has been paying attention to the Weinstein scandal should know that this is probably a bald-faced lie: Both the NYT and the New Yorker's Ronan Farrow reported that Weinstein's sexual aggression was an open secret, particularly among his rich and powerful peers, a group that obviously includes Clinton.
Since 1992, Weinstein and his family have given nearly $1.5 million to various politicians, almost exclusively Democrats.
Clinton said her relationship with Weinstein would have been "very different" if she had known about the allegations: "Of course, if all of us had known what we know now, it would have affected our behavior."
I am a Hollywood outsider, merely living sort of near Miramax in New York and being friends with and knowing some people who did films for the company.
To be clear, I had no detailed knowledge of Harvey Weinstein's behavior, but when ZeroHedge calls it an "open secret" that he was a sexual scumbag of some sort, that's really an understatement.
EVERYBODY. KNEW.
Generally speaking, probably in many cases, sure.
But people more "insider" than I was -- people who knew actresses, models, and powerful people -- had to know beyond vague notions that he was some sort of sexual scumbag.
via ifeminists
Uhhhhh..... Ancient Greece, feudal Japan, and Shakespeare's England all banned women from the theater because of lust abuse. And that didn't stop the abuse, it just redirected it along more depraved lines.
... Maybe this has something to do with the nature of adults still drawn to make believe? And fame instead if real intimacy.
Maybe the West's substitution of entertainers and ahrtists for real grown ups of religious thought and moral commitment.. Maybe that hasn't worked out so well...
Ben David at January 22, 2020 12:48 AM
> I am a Hollywood outsider
Similarly, here…
> EVERYBODY. KNEW.
So did I, and those are really not my circles.
It was worse than imagined, though. I'd presumed there'd be a greater number of reasonably compassionate men & women in positions of authority, contractually-bound other parties who'd approach HW in various settings and say "Quit raping my clients/starlets/meal tickets." But no....
Crid at January 22, 2020 2:38 AM
> real grown ups of religious
> thought and moral commitment
You have 25 seconds: Name five. Go!
It's a piece about Hillary Clinton, m'kay? She's representing the "moral commitment" side of your rhetoric in this discussion. Her corruption and essentially fundamentalist devotion to depravity are how you get a game show host in the White House.Crid at January 22, 2020 2:57 AM
Better link.
Crid at January 22, 2020 3:21 AM
It's Hillary, ffs. Believe anything she says, it's on you.
Radwaste at January 22, 2020 3:59 AM
Crid:
It's a piece about Hillary Clinton, m'kay? She's representing the "moral commitment" side of your rhetoric in this discussion.
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Nope. She's one of the Marxists attacking the West and trying to replace it with postmodern drek.
Nice try, though.
You, the Goddess, and some other posters here got just enough exposure to the old Judeo Christian West to be able to identify the decay and the problems.
But you've been infected by the Randian/leftie prejudice against the religious faith that motivated the free democratic West. So yer stuck taking sophomoric potshots at anything that references the West's Judeo Christian roots.
As recently as the 1950s American culture and politics still was shaped by people who had other bases of identity and value besides pop culture. Entertainers were just that, no more.
As the attack on those other bases of identity has succeeded, actors, ad-men, and artists have been pressed into service as priests and prophets of the modern secular era.
How has that worked out?
Ben David at January 22, 2020 4:03 AM
The Missing Stair
http://pervocracy.blogspot.com/2012/06/missing-stair.html
NicoleK at January 22, 2020 4:58 AM
Maybe the West's substitution of entertainers and ahrtists for real grown ups of religious thought and moral commitment
They're just the temple whores. For the right donation, of course.
And of course Hillary knew. She had one of her underlings succeed in spiking Ronan Farrell's work on this story @ NBC. NBC probably didn't need the extra encouragement, but I'm sure it didn't hurt.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 22, 2020 6:04 AM
"It's a piece about Hillary Clinton, m'kay? She's representing the "moral commitment" side of your rhetoric in this discussion.
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Nope. She's one of the Marxists attacking the West and trying to replace it with postmodern drek."
Both things are true. The Left presents itself as America's moral superiors. (This isn't new either; they did it through most of the 20th century.) And yes, her core beliefs are Marxist.
Cousin Dave at January 22, 2020 9:23 AM
I always thought her core beliefs were Hillaryist. As in give Hilary what she wants and fuck all of you. I always figured the marxism stuff from her was more opportunistic than anything else. She never came across as a true believer.
Ben at January 22, 2020 10:10 AM
" the nature of adults still drawn to make believe"
Like you, Plato despised theater due to its immoral influence on the young.
Especially young boys, whom Plato enjoyed plooking wholly unspoiled by make-believe.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 22, 2020 11:23 AM
Hillary's getting sued for defamation.
Gabbard takes issue with being called a Russian asset.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 22, 2020 11:27 AM
I always figured the marxism stuff from her was more opportunistic than anything else.
I think the last True Believer was *checks notes* Karl Marx. I doubt it was any of Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Uncle Ho, Fidel or Raul.
Oh, wait. It might have been that idiot, Che. But he was only in it for the killing. He found out he was good at being an executioner.
Oh, and Epstein didn't hang himself.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 22, 2020 12:13 PM
Epstein's Arkancide conspiracy is going to linger, that's for sure.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at January 22, 2020 2:38 PM
Bernie sure looks like a true believer. So do his BernieBros who are now calling for sending people to gulags for reeducation.
Ben at January 22, 2020 3:37 PM
People like Weinstein are the reason why we should bring back public hangings.
mpetrie98 at January 22, 2020 5:12 PM
Hillary hates Tulsi? Who is she supporting? Biden?
NicoleK at January 22, 2020 8:57 PM
Hillary is supporting Hillary.
The woman has gotten nuttier and nuttier after her lost presidential bid. She has talked about how she won the election and could beat Trump again. She called Tulsi a Russian asset. Recently went off on Sanders. No she doesn't like Biden. She is still bitter that Obama beat her years ago.
Don't look for a coherent position out of that ball of crazy.
Ben at January 23, 2020 7:45 AM
"People like Weinstein are the reason why we should bring back public hangings.
Have you not seen the countless photos of people gleefully enjoying his company?
The only reason he is now an outcast is that he can no longer deliver success.
Radwaste at January 23, 2020 7:46 AM
Don't look for a coherent position out of that ball of crazy.
Ben at January 23, 2020 7:45 AM
Yea, We really dodged a bullet in 16.
Isab at January 23, 2020 10:16 AM
> She's one of the Marxists
> attacking the West and trying
> to replace it with
> postmodern drek.
Yes, perhaps; and she's the representative of your "moral commitment."
Wanna deny it again? Wanna do another lap?
No one on the surface of the planet... Please believe this, because I'm addressing you specifically... No one on the surface of the planet cares what your personal, darling ideal of "moral commitment" is all about. Perhaps you personally regard her as odious, for religious reasons or for ten thousand others: That duzzenmadder.
Hillary was indisputably 2016's conventional candidate, brought to us by establishment traditions of education, corporate interest, political alliance, and government machinery. (After her on the list came Bernie and the rest of the foaming idiots, now ascendant.) She crossed her heart and swore oaths and attended meetings and filled out forms and made connections with strangers, affirming across a lifetime that she was telling the truth and wouldn't back down. "Moral commitment."
Donald Trump was a television game show host. Guess who won.
> Nice try, though.
Dood, don't pout. And "Marxist," in this context, is trite.
Crid at January 23, 2020 2:15 PM
PS— No one cares about my personal, darling ideals of "moral commitment," either. This is civics... Specifically, electoral politics.
I'd agree that voters are too cynical, and far, FAR too enthused by lesser evils, as if more deeply motivated by fear than principle.
Ahem.
Crid at January 23, 2020 5:01 PM
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