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I like that he said, in effect, that parents' emotions and fears about the crisis are valid - they just aren't appropriate at ALL times and places.
But he slipped up, too - in the speech he offered for parents to recite to their kids, it includes the phrase "you're our first priority."
Shock! Horror! Ok, maybe it doesn't hurt to say that to kids right NOW, but anyone who's read more than a couple of his columns knows that one parental mantra of his is: "Put your marriage first."
That would suggest that if your spouse and your kid were drowning and you could only save one, you should save your spouse, right?
Come out to the coast, get together, we'll have a few laughs...
Crid
at March 25, 2020 9:20 AM
Practicing medicine without a license?
Several days after President Trump touted the drugs chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine as promising treatments for COVID-19, the governor of Nevada has signed an emergency order barring the use of the drugs to fight the disease.
Democrat Gov. Steve Sisolak said in a statement on Tuesday that there’s no consensus among experts that the drugs can help people suffering with the coronavirus.
That would suggest that if your spouse and your kid were drowning and you could only save one, you should save your spouse, right?
Lenona at March 25, 2020 9:09 AM
The reason you and I are even here talking about this Lenona, is because for the last hundred thousand years, our ancestors always always put their children first in life and death situations. Which has nothing at all to do with saying no to ice cream and toys which all parents should probably do far more frequently.
Most of the people I know who sanctimoniously told me they put their marriage first, have been divorced for years.
The reason you and I are even here talking about this Lenona, is because for the last hundred thousand years, our ancestors always always put their children first in life and death situations.
One may find a new spouse, but it may turn out that one can not make more children.
I R A Darth Aggie
at March 25, 2020 10:08 AM
Anybuddy remember Snoopy? That guy HAY-tid Elon Musk.
Something tells me that if you dig deeper, you'll find out that the reason for this is that the unfireable parasites remain is because of nepotism.
Harvard has a $40 billion endowment, battalions of Title IX coordinators, deans of diversity, and profs of "gender studies" & other malignant fantasy subjects. But when it shutters because of the Wuhan flu, the people it fires are the dining hall workers.
Being “understanding” doesn’t just mean letting these parents work when they can. It also means figuring out how not to hold their diminished productivity against them. “This is creating a huge divide between workers who don’t have children and those that do,” Tiffany, who lives in Massachusetts, explained. “Will my childless coworkers be rewarded for working harder than me because I have to take care of my children?”
Heaven forfend the people who do the work get the reward!
Kevin
at March 25, 2020 11:28 AM
Harvard is a hedge fund with an attached university.
Meanwhile,
“We could know within two weeks whether Professor Didier Raoult, the French virologist who heads the Mediterranean infectious and tropical disease institute in Marseille, will go down in history as the man who saved the world from COVID-19, or will be dismissed as an arrogant, misguided scientist who raised false hopes.”
But this is a reminder why we must stop outsourcing our critical drug manufacturing offshore: Yesterday, The Indian government “banned export of anti-malarial drug hydroxycloroquine, with immediate effect to ensure sufficient availability of the medicine in the domestic market. It, however, said the government will allow export of the medicine on humanitarian grounds on case-to-case basis on the Ministry of External Affairs’ recommendation.”
I R A Darth Aggie
at March 25, 2020 11:50 AM
“Will my childless coworkers be rewarded for working harder than me because I have to take care of my children?”
Would you prefer that they not be rewarded while also being told to take up the slack from your absence? I can't imagine why they might resent that, Karen.
The testimony of NYPD Officer Omar Habib turned what appeared to be a solid gun case involving a 2016 raid of a Tinton Ave. apartment, into a boondoggle, even though the DNA of the three men arrested linked them to the four guns seized.
One suspect, Angel Valentin, went to trial, during which Habib admitted that one of the seized guns was put in a box, with money on top of it — even though no money was vouchered — before police took a picture of the weapon. He also admitted a second gun was moved closer to Valentin as he lay on the floor handcuffed.
Valentin, an ex-con facing seven to 45 years in prison on the gun charges, was acquitted in December 2018.
After all, it wasn't until the late 19th century or so that children stopped being treated as short adults who were expected to be as independent as possible so as not to be a burden to their parents. (Leaving aside those too young to wander about without an older relative, of course.)
Btw, that divorce scenario sounds like a case of "protesting too much." That is, those who REALLY put their marriages first likely don't feel the need to say so to anyone, so they don't get noticed. In the same vein, many political married couples around the world do not hold hands in public; everyone would notice the minute they STOPPED holding hands.
Lenona
at March 25, 2020 12:54 PM
Too long; didn't read:
Stop panicking over the mortality percentage. It's artificially elevated, and will only come down as testing improves.
Comments closed, because quite frankly the pearl-clutching is grating my nerves something fierce.
One of the biggest surprises is the severe situation that Switzerland finds itself in. The majestic mountain redoubt that is so organized that you can set your watch by the trains because they are rarely even a few seconds late has the second-highest rate of COVID-19 infection in the world. The rate of infection is going up so quickly — 758 new cases on Saturday — that the government says it has been having trouble keeping track of the growing numbers.
It's an opinion piece, so, ok, whatev. It wouldn't be the first time the Dems ran a yellow dog. But maybe a platform? vision? even a mission statement?
After all, it wasn't until the late 19th century or so that children stopped being treated as short adults who were expected to be as independent as possible so as not to be a burden to their parents. (Leaving aside those too young to wander about without an older relative, of course.)
Yes. Any and all of the DNA testing services. People who did not prioritize the lives of their children have no descendants alive today. Thought that would be obvious. And the numbers of people who have ever lived and left no descendants are massive indeed. Genetic tests indicate that 8000 years ago 17 women reproduced for ever man that had children Some of course, were just plain unlucky. But we are all here because a long line of mothers and fathers took exceptionally good care of our ancestors and us during gestation and for several years after. Darwin’s law. The fittest survive, and part of that fitness is keeping your offspring alive.
Isab
at March 25, 2020 4:10 PM
Genetic tests indicate that 8000 years ago 17 women reproduced for ever man that had children
Dayum! Looks like a lot of men were using The Hand back in the day.
1. Just how often DID parents, in an average year, have to choose between saving their spouses and saving their children - assuming they had the power to choose in the first place? Accidents can happen to spouses and teen offspring alike, after all, when you're not there to save them.
2. Even without a history book, anyone knows that people had far more children before the 20th century. WITH a history book or two, one knows that, maybe for that reason, parents were very often neglectful of their children's safety, whether we're talking about co-sleeping, babies choking on small objects (or even on their vomit, when the parents were outside the house and couldn't hear) or small children being allowed to get lost and die of exposure. Since children were more of a personal economic asset back then, especially on farms, parents were always having more babies anyway. Therefore, it's clearly not true that even neglectful parents have no descendants today. Many experts have speculated that, in a world of two-child families, society no longer believes in "accidents" that happen to children, and so when a child breaks an arm from falling out of a tree, the parents are condemned for NOT being helicopter parents and preventing the child from climbing trees in the first place!
But, of course, such parenting does not exactly make children "fit" for survival, as many posters here have complained.
Prince Charles now has the virus.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-52033845
Lenona at March 25, 2020 7:51 AM
I don't think that's how TED talks are supposed to work.
https://dilbert.com/strip/2020-03-25
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 7:58 AM
John Rosemond on parenting during the crisis:
https://www.nny360.com/artsandlife/familyandrelations/john-rosemond-time-for-parents-to-keep-calm-and-carry/article_54d08a1f-9eae-5d7d-a441-c7e25373b04e.html
I like that he said, in effect, that parents' emotions and fears about the crisis are valid - they just aren't appropriate at ALL times and places.
But he slipped up, too - in the speech he offered for parents to recite to their kids, it includes the phrase "you're our first priority."
Shock! Horror! Ok, maybe it doesn't hurt to say that to kids right NOW, but anyone who's read more than a couple of his columns knows that one parental mantra of his is: "Put your marriage first."
That would suggest that if your spouse and your kid were drowning and you could only save one, you should save your spouse, right?
Lenona at March 25, 2020 9:09 AM
A Christmas movie?
Come out to the coast, get together, we'll have a few laughs...
Crid at March 25, 2020 9:20 AM
Practicing medicine without a license?
https://amgreatness.com/2020/03/24/nevada-governor-bans-use-of-promising-drug-chloroquine-to-fight-coronavirus/
What's next? gonna ban morphine?
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 9:35 AM
Is that you, Tony Stark?
https://www.dailywire.com/news/american-ingenuity-ford-uses-f-150-parts-to-design-respirators-as-private-sector-combats-covid-19
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 9:38 AM
https://twitter.com/RobProvince/status/1241860486003654667
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 9:39 AM
Oh. It just slipped their mind?
https://twitter.com/JoeSilverman7/status/1242589625778147331
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 9:42 AM
Looks like LA has their own little tin pot dictator.
https://twitter.com/LibertyJen/status/1242635468501471232
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 9:45 AM
That would suggest that if your spouse and your kid were drowning and you could only save one, you should save your spouse, right?
Lenona at March 25, 2020 9:09 AM
The reason you and I are even here talking about this Lenona, is because for the last hundred thousand years, our ancestors always always put their children first in life and death situations. Which has nothing at all to do with saying no to ice cream and toys which all parents should probably do far more frequently.
Most of the people I know who sanctimoniously told me they put their marriage first, have been divorced for years.
Isab at March 25, 2020 9:51 AM
The shit just go real.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-waffle-house-closes-365-locations-in-us-dozen-in-miami-valley/ar-BB11FW3Z
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 10:06 AM
The reason you and I are even here talking about this Lenona, is because for the last hundred thousand years, our ancestors always always put their children first in life and death situations.
One may find a new spouse, but it may turn out that one can not make more children.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 10:08 AM
Anybuddy remember Snoopy? That guy HAY-tid Elon Musk.
Crid at March 25, 2020 10:53 AM
That one last flourish that breaks your heart.
Crid at March 25, 2020 10:58 AM
Something tells me that if you dig deeper, you'll find out that the reason for this is that the unfireable parasites remain is because of nepotism.
https://twitter.com/rogerkimball/status/1242784264015536128
Sixclaws at March 25, 2020 11:02 AM
Here's a ding-dang-doozy of an article :
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/annehelenpetersen/coronavirus-covid19-parents-kids-childcare
Being “understanding” doesn’t just mean letting these parents work when they can. It also means figuring out how not to hold their diminished productivity against them. “This is creating a huge divide between workers who don’t have children and those that do,” Tiffany, who lives in Massachusetts, explained. “Will my childless coworkers be rewarded for working harder than me because I have to take care of my children?”
Heaven forfend the people who do the work get the reward!
Kevin at March 25, 2020 11:28 AM
Harvard is a hedge fund with an attached university.
Meanwhile,
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/362587/
Included, emphasis mine:
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 11:50 AM
“Will my childless coworkers be rewarded for working harder than me because I have to take care of my children?”
Would you prefer that they not be rewarded while also being told to take up the slack from your absence? I can't imagine why they might resent that, Karen.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 11:58 AM
Costco lays out the law.
https://twitter.com/capricorngirlyy/status/1240689855501238272
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 12:08 PM
Good job! for the jury, and their acquital.
https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nyc-crime/ny-bronx-gun-case-cop-testimony-nypd-20200324-ixdjflb2fzfjlky5fi37anjrwe-story.html
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 12:20 PM
Plagues. Locusts. Tsunamis? is that proper for an apocalypse?
https://twitter.com/wxrjm/status/1242649351492710400
"Only" a 7.8 magnitude.
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 12:41 PM
https://twitter.com/MikeLaChance33/status/1242785058416660487
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 12:43 PM
Isab, got a source on that?
After all, it wasn't until the late 19th century or so that children stopped being treated as short adults who were expected to be as independent as possible so as not to be a burden to their parents. (Leaving aside those too young to wander about without an older relative, of course.)
Btw, that divorce scenario sounds like a case of "protesting too much." That is, those who REALLY put their marriages first likely don't feel the need to say so to anyone, so they don't get noticed. In the same vein, many political married couples around the world do not hold hands in public; everyone would notice the minute they STOPPED holding hands.
Lenona at March 25, 2020 12:54 PM
https://thelawdogfiles.blogspot.com/2020/03/stop-panicking-over-bad-data.html
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 1:13 PM
Darth, no more naked links. Tell us why we should care
Crid at March 25, 2020 1:17 PM
A bored husky:
https://twitter.com/humorandanimals/status/1241742841623318528
Sixclaws at March 25, 2020 1:24 PM
NicoleK, stay corona-free.
https://globalnews.ca/news/6713906/coronavirus-switzerland-commentary/
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 1:36 PM
Tell us why we should care
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/03/stay-alive-joe-biden/608614/
It's an opinion piece, so, ok, whatev. It wouldn't be the first time the Dems ran a yellow dog. But maybe a platform? vision? even a mission statement?
Or is this person just running up the white flag?
I R A Darth Aggie at March 25, 2020 1:44 PM
How dare you!
https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1242901510045851648
Sixclaws at March 25, 2020 1:50 PM
I usually don't share this kind of content but..
https://twitter.com/NekoHunterD4/status/1242810255588954113
Sixclaws at March 25, 2020 2:34 PM
Isab, got a source on that?
After all, it wasn't until the late 19th century or so that children stopped being treated as short adults who were expected to be as independent as possible so as not to be a burden to their parents. (Leaving aside those too young to wander about without an older relative, of course.)
Yes. Any and all of the DNA testing services. People who did not prioritize the lives of their children have no descendants alive today. Thought that would be obvious. And the numbers of people who have ever lived and left no descendants are massive indeed. Genetic tests indicate that 8000 years ago 17 women reproduced for ever man that had children Some of course, were just plain unlucky. But we are all here because a long line of mothers and fathers took exceptionally good care of our ancestors and us during gestation and for several years after. Darwin’s law. The fittest survive, and part of that fitness is keeping your offspring alive.
Isab at March 25, 2020 4:10 PM
Genetic tests indicate that 8000 years ago 17 women reproduced for ever man that had children
Dayum! Looks like a lot of men were using The Hand back in the day.
Corona Virus Daily Thread #27
mpetrie98 at March 25, 2020 8:31 PM
Um, Isab, you're dancing around the issue.
1. Just how often DID parents, in an average year, have to choose between saving their spouses and saving their children - assuming they had the power to choose in the first place? Accidents can happen to spouses and teen offspring alike, after all, when you're not there to save them.
2. Even without a history book, anyone knows that people had far more children before the 20th century. WITH a history book or two, one knows that, maybe for that reason, parents were very often neglectful of their children's safety, whether we're talking about co-sleeping, babies choking on small objects (or even on their vomit, when the parents were outside the house and couldn't hear) or small children being allowed to get lost and die of exposure. Since children were more of a personal economic asset back then, especially on farms, parents were always having more babies anyway. Therefore, it's clearly not true that even neglectful parents have no descendants today. Many experts have speculated that, in a world of two-child families, society no longer believes in "accidents" that happen to children, and so when a child breaks an arm from falling out of a tree, the parents are condemned for NOT being helicopter parents and preventing the child from climbing trees in the first place!
But, of course, such parenting does not exactly make children "fit" for survival, as many posters here have complained.
Lenona at March 25, 2020 11:51 PM
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