The "Everything's Victimization" Wussification Of Everyone
Paul Joseph Watson reports at Infowars on a recent YouGov survey that asked: "Which potential forms of sexual harassment do European women most commonly experience?"
— Old Holborn® (@Holbornlolz) March 17, 2021
Watson writes:
One of these forms of "sexual harassment" is "Asked you out for a drink." This is placed on a par with men flashing their genitals and physically assaulting women.One wonders how men and women are ever going to meet each other if asking a woman out on a date is deemed to be a form of misogynistic harassment.
However, such views aren't just shared by women.
Men have had all their confidence and natural masculine inclinations so browbeaten out of them by modernity that a survey by the Economist in 2017 found that a full 25% of millennial men in the United States think "asking to go for a drink" is a form of sexual harassment.
The numbers now are probably even higher.
via Jay J. Hector
The Economist is leaving out the subtext: "If you aren't rich/famous/handsome". 1/4 of the guy know they aren't rich/famous/handsome enough so anything they do or say will be harassment.
if you are rich/famous/handsome enough you could say "I club baby seals for fun on weekends" to pick someone up.
Joe J at March 20, 2021 4:07 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxuUkYiaUc8
Still accurate.
Ben at March 20, 2021 6:03 AM
"Commented on your attractiveness directly to you"
When I die and go to heaven...maybe this will happen sometimes. I mean, to me.
BOTU at March 20, 2021 8:22 AM
Infowars is a site that lies and its owner has been successfully sued for lies about Sandy Hook.I wouldn't believe anything they post.
Novathecat at March 20, 2021 8:57 AM
> I mean, to me.
Naw.
Crid at March 20, 2021 10:00 AM
Re: Infowars.
"I wouldn't believe anything they post." True. Plus, the 6th grade writing for their target audience is off-putting. Still, it wouldn't have killed you to check. Russia Times has a much better article.
https://www.rt.com/uk/518410-yougov-date-sexual-harassment/
Spiderfall at March 20, 2021 10:09 AM
Posting a link from Infowars? Ooooh!
Just in case the Twitter mob dogpiles on you again just like they did when you dared to post a link from a MTGOW website:
https://twitter.com/clickhole/status/960568745298223104
Sixclaws at March 20, 2021 10:54 AM
Ben, that’s one of my all-time favorite SNL bits.
JD at March 20, 2021 2:00 PM
I would argue that there is a difference between asking a woman out for a drink and asking a woman out on a date (assuming that the drink would be alcoholic). There's a stigma associated with imbibing on a social level that could cause many people to conflate it with harassment. I don't agree with it, but I understand it.
Fayd at March 20, 2021 6:13 PM
I've seen that SNL sketch more than once and I'd appreciate it a lot more if it took place in a BAR or somewhere more social.
The workplace will always be more hazardous, and there will always be more variables. Why? Because it's a workplace. Even if it's the only place many adults have available to get to know people casually BEFORE asking them out. (Besides, the nerdy-looking character clearly didn't do that beforehand anyway!)
Also, as Miss Manners pointed out, even the happiest of workplace romances are NOT welcome to those other people who get burdened by the work that isn't getting done, as a result of the time spent on the romance. (Those third parties often includes one's boss.) Not that it's impossible to be a good worker while dating a co-worker, of course - but the hazard is not trivial.
If a man finds a female co-worker highly attractive, it shouldn't be that hard for him, as an ADULT, to take a few months to let her get to know him and his personality in firmly work-related ways. That would include going to lunch in groups of three or four, maybe, when one can talk about fun stuff as well. (However, common sense - even in same-sex groups - means remembering the classic verboten subjects: religion, politics, and sex.)
Trust takes time, and for good reason.
Last but not least (see my first paragraph), when a woman accepts a date with a boss or a rich client, handsome or not, often, it's because she's afraid of what will happen if she says no. Even not getting promoted is something a lot of women can't afford. Especially single mothers.
Regarding that, wasn't it Senator Bob Packwood, I think, who said something like "a secretary didn't used to mind when you yanked her down by her hair and stuck your tongue in her mouth! Women can't go changing the rules like that! It's ridiculous!"
Did he really believe she didn't mind?
Oh, and thanks, Novathecat and Fayd.
Lenona at March 21, 2021 9:13 AM
Looking at boobs is harassment? Lock up 100% of the men. Even gay men and other women notice boobs. It is the new puritanism: you should only talk politics with a potential mate and don't look down. argh
cc at March 21, 2021 3:08 PM
Haven't you had sexual harassment training CC? Sexual harassment is anything someone doesn't like. Ignoring someone can count as sexual harassment. And I'm not talking about the SNL skit. I'm talking about actual corporate training programs. (God may I never have to sit through another one of those!)
On the bright side things are written more gender neutral these days. It counts for men as well as women most places.
Ben at March 21, 2021 4:16 PM
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