Just popping in to say that I still find the Sex Pistols' "Never Mind the Bollocks, Here's the Sex Pistols" to be a solid album of toe-tappers from the 1970s, and the thing that took the piss out of the Eagles and all those awful California-hills hippie bands of the early part of the decade. So I'll always give Johnny an ear.

I don't know whether Sid joined before or after that album was in production.

However, it was said that in concerts, at least, someone always unplugged Sid's bass when he wasn't looking, and a real bass guitarist performed backstage.

Which would explain a quotation of his:

"I don't understand why people think it's so difficult to learn to play guitar. I found it incredibly easy. You just pick a chord, go twang, and you've got music."

I believe the Japanese have a term for that kind of attitude:

https://en-dic.pixiv.net/a/Chuunibyou

> the thing that took the piss
> out of the Eagles and all
> those awful California-hills
> hippie bands

If only! If you collected every inch of audiotape from both groups, and set it all afire in a big dumpster, you wouldn't be able to discern the odors. (But I'd be watching from a nearby hillside, face streaked with tears of gratitude.)

I hate ALL punk, and of course, the Eagles, too. Don't make me choose. You can't make me choose. Nobody has to choose.

Power is an agenda.
It seeks it's own justification.

What is insight, but the intition gained by willingness to challenge everything we think we know.

The lightest and most crucial thing we carry with us anywhere we go, and when we get there, is training.

Training the spirit, most of all.

Every living thing, seeks a source of security and supply. When we aren't open to ourselves and others about what this is, there is conflict.

Without connection.

And we cannot come to terms with, love and be loved, for what we are.

That is the illusion of control.

"If You Start To Humanize Your Enemy, You In Turn May Be Dehumanized By Your Community."

- Cathy Jaye
https://youtu.be/3WMuzhQXJoY

I don't know whether Sid joined before or after that album was in production. ~ Lenona at May 1, 2021 7:15 AM

Sid joined when the album was already in production, but most of the tracks had not yet been laid down.

Sid played bass and his musical incompetence meant he was replaced on almost every song on the album.

So I'll always give Johnny an ear. ~ Kevin at May 1, 2021 1:25 AM

I'll give Johnny an ear because I find him amusing, fairly honest, and sometimes insightful.

I found the rage and anger of punk music to be exhausting once I reached adulthood. Of course, by then it was the '80s and mindless rebellion had gone out of stye. As a teenager in the '70s, punk was sometimes energetic and rousing, but was lousy musically. That was the main problem with punk music. Once you got past the anger, there was little left.

Bollocks was an interesting album, more notable for the controversy it generated than for its musicality. The band itself was more notable as a soap opera than as a group of musicians. Perhaps that was by design. As a teenager, none of that mattered. The Sex Pistols were bold and in-your-face offensive, but little else. A copy of Bollocks in your record collection was guaranteed to give Mom apoplexy.

...and the thing that took the piss out of the Eagles and all those awful California-hills hippie bands of the early part of the decade. ~ Kevin at May 1, 2021 1:25 AM

I hate ALL punk, and of course, the Eagles, too. ~ Crid at May 1, 2021 7:31 AM

I kinda like the Eagles. But then, my musical tastes have always leaned toward eclectic - I'll listen to anything from classical to electronic and almost all genres in between.

"I had a rough night and I hate the fucking Eagles, man." ~ The Dude

Speaking of insipid 70’s music. I have a memory of driving I-80 straight through from Plymouth Indiana to Cheyenne Wyoming in early June 1976 in a brand new GMC pickup truck. Swear to God I heard “Band on the Run” every thirty minutes, if not more often, as I switched from one pop channel to another. (This was the 55 MPH speed limit folks. Pure torture.)

> Without connection.

Or long sentences.

> The lightest and most crucial
> thing we carry with us anywhere
> we go, and when we get there,
> is training.

I'd go with 'humility,' but…

> Training the spirit,
> most of all.

…Concision is a contender.


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> So I'll always give Johnny an ear.

Whatever your incentives, if someone's carrying my load through that valley, I'm grateful. There's not ONE SECOND of anything, audible or otherwise, from the world of punk which has gladdened my heart. Back in the college radio days, I'd say to enthusiasts "But their [whoever's] MUSIC sucks!" And they'd reply "Yeah, maybe, but [a whole bunch of stuff about resentment and fashion, forces which are always with us anyway]!"

Blecchy-poodle. It was Country for white, urban children of divorce.


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> early June 1976

That was a cold summer. It was another year before the pop instrumental performance of the decade offered an excuse to turn on the radio.

If you erased everything Paul recorded after the Beatles, I'd be sad, and if you were arrested for it, I'd agree that you probably deserved some time in jail. Because c'mon, Isab, you're getting really aggressive.

I wouldn't miss any of it, though. (Maybe "No More Lonely Nights," because of the concluding passage from Gilmour.)

Yet in youth, I'd have said Lennon was 60% of the Beatles' tunefulness, and Mac was just 35%. (Hi George!) In enlightened retrospect, McCartney was about 83%, and the others can split the rest however you want. Paul was the bright light…

We agree that you wouldn't have seen it through "Band on the Run."

Come on.

Punk music is just simple --albeit edgy for the sake of edginess, mindless fun.

Plus it was a natural response towards saccharine ballads such as Band On The Run or everything Fleetwood Mac ever made.

Stop comparing it to indisputable atrocities (Eages! Fleetwood!), and explicate this "fun" you mentioned.

Because....

When people talk about "edgy" guitar, I think of Sunrise Redeemer.

That title isn't an allusion to Christian enlightenment... His solo is part of a complicated instrumental piece (satirically) called "Let's Move to Cleveland." The concert tour across the United States had been going really badly, with bland performances from the group he'd hired until that show at the Sunrise Musical Theater in Florida, where they all figured out what they were doing. (Counter-crank the fadeout at the end and tell me it's not religious.)

I'm not a religious guy, but Good Lord that was a warm night in the Sunshine State.

These are the lyrics for the whole piece:

Let's move to Cleveland(...)
Let's move to Cleveland
(I've been there)
Let's move to Cleveland

A safety pin through the lip does not a transgressive thinker make.

Wanna have "fun" in the 70's? TODD. Lyrics! Daring sexuality! Teen rebellion! Tuneful as fuck!

[If you want to tap your foot through the synth solo, count like this:

One two three four
Two two three four
Three two three four
Four two three
One two three four (etc.)

I got it wrong, but still.

People used to say the guitar solo on "I Want to be Sedated" was an expression of punk attitude. It sounded more like a disinterest in melody.

I hate ALL punk, and of course, the Eagles, too.
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I happen to LIKE both.

But I admit the Eagles are more likely to put me to sleep these days than most other easy-going 1970s bands. (I loved them when I was in my single digits, though.)

Whistle one of their tunes: …Annnnd GO!

(Pistols, I meant.)

People used to say the guitar solo on "I Want to be Sedated" was an expression of punk attitude. It sounded more like a disinterest in melody. ~ Crid at May 1, 2021 6:32 PM

The jacket to a Ramones greatest hits album I once owned said roughly the same thing; that the record company was unsure that this collection of misfits was a musical act, even more so after the band played for them.

From the top, the correct pattern for the synth solo is

1 - 2 - 3 - 4

2 - 2 - 3 - 4

3 - 2 - 3 - 4

4 - 2 - 3 - 4

5 - 2 - 3 - 4

6 - 2 - 3 - 4

7 - 2 - 3

1 - 2 - 3 - 4 [Etc.]