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Pat Condell Doesn't Respect Your Beliefs
British comedian Pat Condell has a terrific video out about "The Religion of Peace" on YouTube. On his site, he says:

Hi, I'm Pat Condell. I don't respect your beliefs and I don't care if you're offended. Cheers.

Naturally, they're very, very offended in Berkeley, and the commissioners managed to come out against Condell's tape, which they received via e-mail. Apparently, they have yet to see the film "Undercover Mosque," which contains these gems from those peace-loving, "tolerant" British imams:

•Dr Ijaz Mian on the subject of non-muslim laws: "You cannot accept the rule of the kaffir [non-Muslim], We have to rule ourselves and we have to rule the others" [1]

•Preaches hatred of non-muslims who are repeatedly labeled as Kuffirs.[2]

•Abu Usamah saying of apostates: "Whom ever changes his religion from Al Islam to anything else kill him".[3]

•Abu Usamah speaking on the deficiency of women's minds: "Allah has created the woman, even if she gets a PhD, deficient. Her intellect is incomplete, deficient. She may be suffering from hormones that will make her emotional. It takes two witnesses of a woman to equal the one witness of the man."

•Praises the killer of a British soldier serving in Afghanistan, stating "The hero of Islam is the one who separated his head from his shoulders.” [4]

•Sheikh Al Faisal: "You have to bomb the Indian businesses, and as for the Jews you kill them physically" [5]

•Advocates violent Jihad against the non-muslims and predicting that an army of Muslims will arise against the non-muslims in England.[6]

•Dr Bilal Philips on marriage with pre-pubescent girls: "The prophet Muhammad practically outlined the rules regarding marriage prior to puberty. With his practice, he clarified what is permissible, and that is why we shouldn't have any issues about an older man marrying a younger woman, which is looked down upon by this society today, but we know that Prophet Mohammed practised it, it wasn’t abuse or exploitation, it was marriage" [7]

•Condemns Muslim integration into British society.[8]

•Calls for the overthrow of the British government and democracy.[9] "They will fight in the cause of Allah. I encourage all of you to be from among them, to begin to cultivate ourselves for the time that is fast approaching - where the tables are going to turn and the Muslims are going to be in the position of being uppermost in strength."[10]

•Dr Mian: "You are in a situation in which you have to live like a state within a state, until you take over. But until this happens, you have to preach, until you become such a force that the people they just submit to you, hands up, until you become strong enough to take over" [11]

•Sheikh Al Jibali: "by the age of 10 if she doesn't wear a hijab, we hit her."

•Dr Mian saying of the Saudi religious police: they can imprison people if they do not pray; "if you don't come for prayer, we will arrest you. But if you still don't, then we have to bring the punishment on you - you will be killed"[12]

•Abu Usamah saying that homosexuals should be killed by throwing them off a cliff, stating "throw [the homosexual] off the mountain." [13]

Just a thought, but perhaps the Berkeleyites should be condemning not Condell, but Abu Usamah? I mean, it would be a sensible alternative to giving him the key to the city, which is kind of what they're doing by condemning Condell.

Posted by aalkon at May 20, 2007 9:34 AM

Comments

The video is terrific. He's articulate, intelligent, concise and witty. I liked the video responses, too. One video showed some of the grisly, some of the distasteful and some of the violence advocated by Islamic extremists while Monty Python's rather insipid "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life." (I had never heard the song before, and I need the adjectives for it, but it reminds me of "Don't Worry, Be Happy." It's got a rather annoying, inane optimism about it.)

Posted by: Patrick at May 20, 2007 2:53 AM

Still, my favorite video on youtube.com is still this one. I cannot believe the flack this video has gotten. Even O'Reilly himself ran clips of it on his show, conveniently leaving out the part where the child calls him "that idiot."

Posted by: Patrick at May 20, 2007 3:02 AM

I guess it's the Berkeley City Council's theme song. Music to be beheaded by, perhaps?

Posted by: Amy Alkon at May 20, 2007 3:02 AM

Respect isn't something people ought to demand, anyway--either for themselves or others. People who want respect need to earn it.

What the Berkeley commissioners need to advocate is tolerance for expressions of belief. The advantage of the First Amendment is, it prohibits prior restraint on such expressions so that everybody gets the opportunity to decide whether the ideas deserve respect, condemnation, or thoughtful reconsideration.

Those who express the beliefs in this list have earned not just disrespect, but the outright condemnation that Amy gives them.

Posted by: Axman at May 20, 2007 9:10 AM

While watching
Undercover Mosque at Google,


I came across this video


Islam IS Feminism!


Which does provide an alternative and interesting perspective, and is simultaneously unintentionally accurate, sad, and ironic in ways its creator could not have intended.

Posted by: jerry at May 20, 2007 9:57 AM

Axman writes:

Respect isn't something people ought to demand, anyway--either for themselves or others. People who want respect need to earn it.

While I agree that respect is not demanded, I disagree that respect is earned. It is not earned, never was, and that's a misconception that needs to hit the road yesterday.

Your grandparents are entitled to the deference given to the elderly without being grilled about their ideology. The stranger walking down the street is entitled to simple courtesy, should your paths cross. Whether that involves simply respecting his side of the sidewalk or taking turns at the ATM, he is entitled to respect.

Disrespect, by contrast, is most definitely earned. My grandparents might be entitled to respect given to the elderly, if I were to find that they were card-carrying members of the KKK, they will have forfeited my respect.

Posted by: Patrick at May 20, 2007 12:18 PM

I did enjoy Pat Condell's video response of "Am I a racist?" to the Berkley crowd:

http://tinyurl.com/yuxhue

Posted by: Joe at May 20, 2007 4:21 PM

Thanks - fantastic again.

Posted by: Amy Alkon at May 20, 2007 5:19 PM

Oh yeah! I've been watching Pat for a while now.

Pat is the spoksman for many of us who are neither extereme left or extreme right...but extreme...I dunno...UP?

The far right are a bunch of religious nuts who are out to "Get theirs", the far left are naive, isolated, academic-fetishists who are out to "Get yours"

But the "Far Ups", we're fed up with people who, despite having their heads shoved firmly up their own asses, think they get to tell everyone from which direction the sun is shining.

Posted by: RedPretzel in LA at May 20, 2007 9:50 PM

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