the thing about owning an experience, is that you can be told to own ad infinitum. Until you yourself think it? It isn't real to you. You can be forced to think a way, or do an action, but it isn't yours until it comes from you. YMMV.

Men and women are equally obsessed with women's breasts. You'd think there might be some other topic we could discuss, like whether god exists, or whether size really matters. But nothing compares to the mighty boob. Brace yourselves for another 100-post thread.

Third!

Isn't part of the problem that we give morons attention?

I was sporadically watching this show on mtv or vh1 or BET....anyway, this former music video dancer/whore has this book out now about how demeaning it is for all women in the industry because nudity and sex are the easy ways in the door. To quote Amy, "Boo fucking hoo!" She acts like someone forced her into the music video industry. Who cares who she is or what the name of the book is. Fuck her. She doesn't deserve to make any money off of what she now considers a bad career choice. Oh yeah, she has a really shitty boob job, too.

You gotta love the girls who bemoan the easy way in. You don't like the easy way, cross your legs and take the hard way.

Uh, sorry, the other hard way.

I'm such a fountain of maturity.

You have no idea how many bad jokes are fighting for control of my keyboard right now.

give in to the dark side, gog_magog...

Ooooh, goodie! I can hardly wait for her sequel, "The History of the Penis."

Of course, I'll never actually make time for the whole book, to see it in context... But the thing about that passage is how cloyingly it demands that you ask the speaker what the fuck she's talking about... As if you cared. I mean, she said it twice: "full possession" and "their own".

Presumably --and it's been many years since I followed through on one of these conversational scenarios-- if we asked about it, we'd hear an unrefined, weakly-reasoned spiel about how modern women (or at least white, coddled ones such as herself) are raised with a sense of removal from their own flesh, and it's part of an oppressive American patriarchy. Or something.

The Amazon squib continues this theme, how the problem is with reader's awareness: "INTEND TO MAKE YOU THINK about women's breasts as you never have before..."

Anyway, I bet Paglia could take Yalom in a fistfight.

Anyway, I bet Paglia could take Yalom in a fistfight.

Paglia could probably just breathe on her and blow her away. And that wasn't an insult to Paglia or about garlic.

And basically, that removal from their own flesh due to how men and society see breasts is right on. I think it was in the paragraph before the one I quoted.