"But I Really Want To Direct!"
I turned on CNN and there he was -- the vile, besuited barbarian Ahmadinejad being given a platform on Larry King, like he's just yet another other celeb or dignitary.
Who is Ahmadinejad? Well, president of Iran, of course. But, Jihadwatch sums the rest of him up pretty well:
▪ He literally believes in the imminent emergence of the Mahdi - the Shiites' promised one who is expected to appear to set aright a decadent and wretched world.▪ He views himself as the vassal of Mahdi, working for him and being accountable to him.
▪ His main task is to prepare the world so to hasten the Mahdi's coming. If this preparation requires much destruction and bloodshed, so be it.
▪ As a former mayor of Tehran, he developed elaborate detailed plans preparing the city for the arrival of the Mahdi.
▪ He allocated generous sums for extensive road improvement to a mosque at Jamkaaraan near the city of Qum where it is believed the promised Mahdi is hiding in a well since the age of four, over 1100 years ago.
▪ He reportedly visits the well frequently and drops his written supplications into the well for the hidden Mahdi to act upon them.
▪ He has said in private that it was he who asked the Mahdi to inflict the massive stroke on Ariel Sharon.
▪ He sees the Jews as the sworn enemies of Islam. The hostility dates back to the time of Muhammad's own treatment of the Jews in Medina. At first, expediently, Muhammad called the Jews "people of the book," and accorded them a measure of tolerance until he gained enough power to unleash his devastating wrath on them.
▪ He says that the Holocaust is a myth. He is, in this respect, in good company with a number of other revisionist fanatics.
▪ He wants Israel to be wiped out of the map or transferred to Europe.
▪ In his speech at the UN general assembly, he implored the Mahdi to come and save the world. He claimed that during his speech of some twenty odd minutes, a powerful light enveloped him and all participants were held transfixed, unable to move their eyes.
▪ He believes that the earth is Allah's and all people must either become believers of his brand of Islam or must perish as infidels najis (unclean) who by their very presence defile Allah's earth.
▪ He believes that this earthly life is passing and worthless in comparison to the afterlife awaiting a devoted and faithful believer. Hence, he holds to the old belief that if a faithful kills an infidel, he goes to Allah's paradise; and, if the faithful gets killed in the process of serving the faith, again he goes to Allah's paradise. Hence, it is a win-win proposition for the faithful.
... He is simply a fanatic who is wedded to an extremely dangerous exclusionary system of belief. Humanity must learn that dismissing him as a lunatic will result in great suffering, as it did with Hitler.
Tragically, Ahmadinejad is the embodiment of several million people who are hinged exactly like him and who are willing to give their lives, and take with them as many lives as required in the service of their belief. In this age of Weapons of Mass Destruction a man with huge sums of petrodollars can serve as the catalyst of total annihilation.
Prudence would err on the side of being an alarmist than a complacent dismissive.
Ahmadinejad and his ilk are not interested in any negotiation, any compromise or any live-and-let-live final solution. They are determined to be the soldiers of Mahdi come-what-may. They have no problem with the total destruction of the world. They are headed for a life of eternal bliss in Allah's paradise. They hardly care, even rejoice, if the rest of humanity is subjected to a tragic death in the nuclear, biological and chemical wasteland of planet earth.
Humanity cannot afford and must not ignore the emergence of the final threat to its very existence on this planet.
Well, two things stand out. First, I hadn't remembered that Ariel Sharon was still alive. Yes, he is that badass.
Second, there's no way this is the "final threat" to our existence. Besides, it's the muslims to talk about permanent peace and all that.
Crid [cridcridatgmail] at September 24, 2008 2:10 AM
Right ... peace through submission ;)
Charles at September 24, 2008 4:18 AM
No, no, Charles, it's "peace through superior fire power." And that's us. And we will win.
And this guy can go screw a frakkin' camel. o_O
Flynne at September 24, 2008 5:46 AM
Peace their way, Crid. And if you force them to persecute you because you're not living their way, well, it's you who caused them to not ignore the isult to Islam. Die infidel!
I'm just wondering if King put him on the hot seat at all. It's one thing to have him as a guest and kowtow to him and another thing if he grills him about his extremism. I take it I'm being too optimistic? (Yes, I know, he can't get future guests if they're afraid of what he's going to ask. Of course, there's no point in giving someone like this a platform if you're not going to ask the tough questions. And, no, I haven't watched King, though, of course, I've heard of him.)
T's Grammy at September 24, 2008 5:47 AM
Flynne,
Hopefully we will ... but it won't be by ignoring the problem and tolerating these types of vile ideologies. I don't have a problem with King having him as a guest per se. A lot of people watch Larry King and exposing him for the hateful psychopath that he is would be a good thing. I didn't watch so I don't know but I'm afraid King probably attempted to stay neutral.
Charles at September 24, 2008 6:23 AM
Flynne said: "No, no, Charles, it's "peace through superior fire power." And that's us. And we will win."
Ahhhh Flynne, once Iran gains missile to Israel then everyone in that country loses.
Amy, what bugs me most about this thug's visit is how left-win Jewish groups put their own domestic political ambitions ahead of any concern for Israel. I trust you've read this: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1023408.html
Robert W. at September 24, 2008 7:05 AM
Wow, with that resume we should probably not offer him a job in marketing or public relations.
Any you guys got an opening in accounts receivable? Always room for an evil nutcase in that group.
Alternatively, how about letting him lead the rehabilitation of everyone on Wallstreet and in Washington who fucked up our economy? I'm not a fan of Ahmadinejad- he is loonier than a hooty bird, but we need to do something with him. And he's too young for us to send off to his 72 virgins.
Just sayin...
Sterling at September 24, 2008 7:56 AM
This guy's been hiding in a well for 1,100 years? Maybe he's ready to negotiate.
How do you pronounce Qum?
Eric at September 24, 2008 8:01 AM
And he's too young for us to send off to his 72 virgins.
Oh no he's not! o_O
Flynne at September 24, 2008 8:13 AM
Ha! He's the Muslim version of a born-again Christian, waiting for the rapture!
Katie Bennett at September 24, 2008 10:02 AM
Right on Katie! I was thinking exactly the same thing. Isn't "wiping Israel off the map" what happens during the rapture. Isn't waiting and hoping for the Mahdi the same as waiting and hoping for Jesus?
Chuck at September 24, 2008 10:05 AM
Christians don't believe that they can accelerate the return of Jesus.
Islamists believe they not only can, but MUST kill the Jews off before Allah will bring paradise to Earth.
Big difference, that.
brian at September 24, 2008 10:23 AM
The difference being that islamists take responsibility for the killing, whereas christianists let god do their dirty work for them?
brian, you're right. That is a big difference!
Chuck at September 24, 2008 10:35 AM
Has anyone seen this article on HR 6975 yet?
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=76026
(Sorry, I'm too lazy for HTML links)
Here's the opening paragraph:
"Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., introduced a bill to the House of Representatives that seeks to prevent Islamic law from gaining a foothold in the U.S. legal system, as it has in other countries."
It sounds like a great idea to me, but I don't know if it'll pass.
ahw at September 24, 2008 1:28 PM
CNN is one of the networks that didn't report what was really going on in Iraq so they wouldn't lose access to their sources. F*CK THEM!
Jim C. at September 24, 2008 4:23 PM
I'm more worried about christofascism that Ahmadinejad. The good folks of the United States are killing thousands of Iraqi people for what exactly?
O'Riordan at September 24, 2008 5:03 PM
Our twice-elected leader is more of a threat than that Persian bogeyman
O'Riordan at September 24, 2008 5:06 PM
Y'all know that he doesn't actually run ANYTHING in Iran, right? That he has no authority over the nuclear program, that he doesn't get to say what's a law and what isn't, that he makes no foreign policy, etc. etc.?
You know that, right? That he's just Iran's hype man? Their Flavor Flav? That he gets trotted out strictly for the purpose of throwing red meat to both supporters AND opponents?
Why are some of you so eager to fall into their trap? Why can't you see that the very best thing we (or Israel, for that matter) could do to ensure that mullahs stay in power in Iran is bomb them? We're certainly not INVADING/OCCUPYING them anytime in the next few years - not without a draft, anyway...
El Caballo de Sangre at September 24, 2008 8:44 PM
Look, trolls (O'Riordan and El Caballo), get something through your thick skulls.
The issue isn't whether Ahmadinejad RUNS anything. It's that he is the duly appointed leader of that nation. What he says represents official Iranian government policy.
The man is bugfuck insane, and he's taken seriously by too many people. He, and the mullahs he represents, are a tremendous threat to regional and world-wide stability. Yet everyone treats Iran as rational. Official policy in Iran is "nuke Israel, even if it means everyone in Iran dies". You can't reason with that kind of crazy.
And nobody is calling for an invasion of Iran. Sure, there's persistent rumors that Israel's going to take out their nuke facilities like they did Osirak, but that's logistically impossible for them to pull off. The present leadership of Iran needs to go away.
And O'Riordan - if you actually believe that Bush is a bigger threat than Iran, you are completely, utterly fucked in the head.
brian at September 24, 2008 8:57 PM
Ahmadinejad said that there are no gay people in Iran. Here's why.
The man is a devout Muslim. 'nuff said.
Jeff at September 24, 2008 9:50 PM
I find it beyond pathetic and yet so predictable how some on here (and 99% on the Daily Kos) make grand assertions of how precisely the power structure works in Iran and that they are absolutely no threat to anyone right now. How the F*CK do YOU KNOW?!?
Sorry about that, Amy. It's the first time I've ever sworn on your blog and hopefully the last.
Dig down deeper under such voices and you always find an anger, if not hatred, toward Jews.
Robert W. at September 24, 2008 9:56 PM
Ahmadinejad is going to win the next election in Iran. He is far from crazy. There are many people who trust his word and believe his rhetoric, ordinary folks who've fallen under the mystique he has created about himself. He is trying to drum up more followers, and to achieve that aim, he ratchets up his rhetoric. He may be thought of as an anti-intellectual intellectual. He presents himself as an anti-intellectual, as someone against the intelligentsia and the wealthy elite of Iran. In reality he's schooled deeply in history and literature. He's a freaking genius compared to GWB. When he talks about Israel or denies the Holocaust, he is not speaking out of ignorance--he is using buzz words. He knows that "Israel" and "Holocaust" elicit a visceral reaction in the Arab Muslim world. Like other politicians, he lies and does what he must do to attain the status he seeks. He surely knows there was a Holocaust. He also knows that the way to achieve his objective is to feed off of the conspiracy theories that thrive in the largely illiterate Muslim world and pay lip service to the Palestinian cause. The guy is shrewd as hell. He rarely speaks the words "Israel" or uses the term "Jewish State" because the Koran does not always view the Jew negatively. He throws stuff out like like "Zionist entity," carefully differentiating between "Jews" and "Zionists." By rejecting the Holocaust, Ahmadinejad takes away the moral, ethical and historical grounds upon which Israel was created. He uses emotion to stoke the passions that will enable him to rise as a leader. Not worse than many other politicians, really.
O'Riordan at September 24, 2008 10:23 PM
It's obvious that there are a lot of fucktards here who are committed to hating Muslims, unexamined reactionary folks unwilling to be swayed from their hateful views.
O'Riordan at September 24, 2008 10:30 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2008/09/24/but_i_really_wa.html#comment-1592983">comment from O'RiordanPersonally, I've got a real problem with a religion -- Islam -- which commands its flock to convert or kill the infidel and take over the world and install the new Caliphate...don't you?
I'm no fan of the evidence-free belief in god in general, but of all the religions out there, Islam is by far and away the worst. The Jews and Christians aren't standing before their congregations telling them to kill the rest of us. Muslim imams are. See the investigations done in Britain, for example, with recordings of the sick shit that is endorsed in mosques. Read about how women are stoned to death and homosexuals are, too...etc., etc., etc.,
Excuse me if I hate that sort of thing.
As I've said before, until September 11, I thought of Muslims like I thought of astrology buffs: merely as silly people who believed in some unproven, evidence-free stuff. After 9/11, I started reading, and I was horrified by what I learned.
If you aren't informed, get informed. If you are informed and aren't horrified, I'm shocked.
Amy Alkon at September 25, 2008 2:58 AM
O'Riordan
Look, fuckhead, in case you weren't aware, my ancestors have been on the receiving end of Islamic aggression for 1200 or so years. You tell me what Italy did to the fucking muslims in the 8th centtury.
Furthermore, the land of my birth has been the target of Islamic aggression since it came into existence. Or were you unaware of the Barbary wars?
So you'll forgive me if I'm "unwilling to be swayed from my hateful views".
And if you think Ahmadinejad was "elected" in any real sense, then you have no clue whatsoever about Iran. You want to talk about "selected", that man was selected. Selected by the mullahs who decide who is allowed to stand for election.
But why am I talking to you? You're a fucking parrot. Someone shoves words into your little brain, and you repeat them until someone gives you a cracker.
brian at September 25, 2008 4:16 AM
"my ancestors have been on the receiving end of Islamic aggression for 1200 or so years. You tell me what Italy did to the fucking muslims in the 8th centtury."
Listen, you fucking cock, 1200 years ago would have taken us back to the 9th century (not centtury).
I suggest you learn the history of Christianity and take a first grade math class, low watt.
O'Riordan at September 25, 2008 10:45 AM
What the fuck, are you three?
brian at September 25, 2008 11:08 AM
Brian said: "Christians don't believe that they can accelerate the return of Jesus."
Is that so? Look up Christian Zionism or Dispensationalism and get back to us. More and more evangelical churches are flirting with the notion that only they can prepare the way for the second coming.
I'm no fan of Ahmadinejad or GWB. Frankly, I think there's lots of room in the Crazy Tent for everyone.
scott at September 25, 2008 11:14 AM
I challenge those who think Christianity is no different than Islam to find a Muslim writer, living in an Islamic-dominated country who has written something similar to this about his own religion: http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/09/23/martin.hairston/index.html?iref=mpstoryview
Does Christianity have a bloody history -- sure does. Somehow their doctorine has allowed them to grow out of it. How come Islam hasn't done the same?
I personally think they are all BS, but I wouldn't trade living in a country shaped by Christian values for living in a country shaped by Muslim values for anything!
moreta at September 25, 2008 11:17 AM
Islam is much younger than X-tianity and Judaism. Theyre all filled with barbarism
O'Riordan at September 25, 2008 1:54 PM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2008/09/24/but_i_really_wa.html#comment-1593126">comment from O'RiordanSo, you know of rabbis or priests who stand before their congregation today and tell them to go kill the infidel? I don't like religion, but the Jews and Christians don't raise their children to strap bomb vests around themselves and go kill the atheists.
Amy Alkon at September 25, 2008 2:08 PM
Moreta - Does Christianity have a bloody history -- sure does. Somehow their doctorine has allowed them to grow out of it. How come Islam hasn't done the same?
O'Riordan - Islam is much younger than X-tianity and Judaism. Theyre all filled with barbarism.
Islam is only 600 years younger than Christianity.
Conan the Grammarian at September 25, 2008 3:19 PM
Conan,
Though not terribly long in geologic time, 600 yrs is a long time in terms of man's history. It was abt 60 yrs ago that Hitler (who was a devout Catholic) implemented his genocidal plan.
O'Riordan at September 25, 2008 10:18 PM
God damn, another moron.
Hitler WAS NOT A MOTHERFUCKING CHRISTIAN YOU FUCKING DOUCHENOZZLE.
Please, clean your ears out with a .45. You'll make the world a better place by not being in it.
brian at September 26, 2008 5:35 AM
Now, come on everybody, let's make nice!
All you need is love!
(Ya-ta-dadadaaa)
All you need is love!
(Ya-ta-dadadaaa)
Nuthin' like a good ree-ligious argument to get everybody riled up...
old rpm daddy at September 26, 2008 7:56 AM
Minor nitpick brian,
Christians don't believe that they can accelerate the return of Jesus.
While it is certainly true that most mainstream Christians don't believe that, there are sects that do and individuals among more mainstream churches who most certainly do. I know a couple who are Nazarenes (a rather mainstream denomination) who voted for Bush because they believed that he would help move foreign policy in a direction that would fulfill the prophecies in Revelations. Two of them are confident that they made the right decision.
They are not folks who would strap a bomb to their chests or commit other acts of terrorism, but they certainly have no problem with the notion of "helping" those prophecies along. (Actually, one of them might support abortion clinic bombings and the like)
DuWayne at September 26, 2008 5:58 PM
Idiot Trolls -
Does it really matter that this asshole's more of a figure than an actual authority? The mullahs who are actually in charge, are if anything, worse.
And for the moron who said that he's just a politician doing what politicians do, do you give every politician a free pass? Because I sure as fuck don't. When assholes say really stupid things, I really don't care if they actually believe it, nor do I try to play guessing games as to what they would actually do in office. If I don't like their claims, I won't support them - period.
It's just completely fucking imbecilic to try to defend this complete fucking loon. Whether he believes his rhetoric or not, the things he has to say are completely indefensible. Are you going to argue that the holocaust didn't happen? Are you going to argue for the destruction of the state of Israel? I'm not a big fan of Israeli policies, but my distaste is a far cry from wanting to see Israel destroyed. Are you really going to argue that their aren't any queers in Iran? Or that they should be put to death if found?
Complete and utter fucking morons.
DuWayne at September 26, 2008 6:07 PM
DuWayne,
What are you, an uneducated construction worker?
If you're going to quote me, then don't take my words out of context. Read my entire post (several times as needed to grasp it), or better yet, have someone read it to you.
I gave no one a free pass nor did I defend anyone. I made the argument that Ahmadinejad is not insane, that he knows exactly what he is doing. I said that he lies, which is something politicians do to get support, and that there are others who are worse than him. I never said anything about agreeing with his espoused beliefs.
O'Riordan at September 26, 2008 8:15 PM
Fuckwitted troll -
I read you just fine, thank you very much. And I stand by my comment.
It really doesn't matter whether you agree with what he says or not, you are defending him and by that, the absolutely insane comments he has made. Ahmadinejad may or may not be insane, but it really doesn't matter. His rhetoric clearly is and has a very detrimental effect. He gets the fanatics worked up in a way that GWB couldn't begin to pull off. He has the charisma and knows how to use it to his advantage. He is a very dangerous person, because he feeds the flames like very few could - and as a figurehead (much like presidents/prime ministers everywhere, including our own) he is very effective.
DuWayne at September 27, 2008 1:08 PM
Brian - Sure, there's persistent rumors that Israel's going to take out their nuke facilities like they did Osirak, but that's logistically impossible for them to pull off.
Not any more. Check this out. Honestly, the idiots in the middle east who thought they were untouchable better be careful. Israel just got the ability to reach out and touch someone at a greater distance.
http://www.israeli-weapons.com/weapons/aircraft/f-16i/F-16I.html
wolfboy69 at October 3, 2008 1:59 PM
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