Reading, Writing, And "Reeducation"
America's little aspiring Stalin, Bill Ayers, had big plans. Bob Owens details it on PJM:
When Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn led the domestic terrorist group Weather Underground in 1969, a chance meeting led Army veteran Larry Grathwohl into joining the group. Grathwohl served as a courier, running messages between the group's leadership (called the "Weather Bureau") and individual cells that were to carry out attacks.Grathwohl was also an informant for the FBI.
In an interview from the 1982 documentary No Place To Hide that recently surfaced, Grathwohl discussed what the Weathermen intended to do after overthrowing the U.S. government, including what they would do with those Americans who [1] refused to embrace communism.
I asked, "Well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?" And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.
And when I say "eliminate," I mean "kill."
Twenty-five million people.
I want you to imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people.
And they were dead serious.
Twenty-six years later, I caught up with Larry Grathwohl, and asked him about the Weathermen, their leaders then and now, and what he thinks about the relationship between Bill Ayers and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Pajamas Media: You stated in your interview in No Place to Hide that you wanted us to "imagine sitting in a room with 25 people, most of which have graduate degrees, from Columbia and other well-known educational centers, and hear them figuring out the logistics for the elimination of 25 million people." A lot of people have now had the opportunity to listen to you, and contemplate the horrors these people planned. Can you recall who these people are by name, and who the ringleaders of this plan were?
Larry Grathwohl: Conversations regarding this occurred in Cincinnati, Detroit, Flint, and Buffalo. Participants included Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Mark Rudd, Linda Evans, Jeff Jones, and many others.
...Pajamas Media: Scattered news accounts on the Internet note that you were instrumental in foiling Weather Underground attacks in February of 1970, in Detroit. The Weathermen built two bombs targeting the Detroit Police Officers' Association (DPOA) building and the 13th Precinct. Were the goals of these attacks symbolic property damage as were some other Weathermen attacks, or were these targets selected to kill police officers?
Larry Grathwohl: The instructions I received from Billy Ayers was that the bombs to be used in Detroit must have shrapnel (fence staples, specifically) and fire potential (propane bottles). The intention was to kill police officers.
Pajamas Media: One of the Detroit bombs was to be placed on the side of the DPOA building, and the blast was likely to cause damage to the adjacent Red Barn Restaurant, which had mostly African-American customers. Who ordered the attack, and what did he say when you told him that innocent civilians would be killed?
Larry Grathwohl: When I objected to Billy Ayers that more innocent people would be killed in the restaurant, he replied, "Innocent people have to die in a revolution." Billy also acknowledged during a criticism session in Buffalo that Bernadine placed the bomb at the Park Police Station which resulted in the death of Police Officer McDonnell.
Pajamas Media: Bill Ayers came out of hiding around 1980, became an college professor, and has served on numerous boards and foundations. Do you think he's changed in his radicalism?
Larry Grathwohl: Has Billy changed? I hardly think so.
Pajamas Media: If conditions permitted, do you think Ayers would still engage in violence to further a political agenda?
Larry Grathwohl: He has acknowledged his support of anti-American groups and stated he felt that the Weathermen hadn't done enough.
Pajamas Media: Do you consider Bill Ayers an attempted mass murderer?
Larry Grathwohl: I'm not certain Billy is a mass murder; his ego just wants him to be in charge. Note that Billy never does anything that involves risk. He has no problem allowing his women to do the evil task, Diane Oughton and even Bernardine, but never him. As for what he might do, hasn't he said he doesn't rule out the possibility of future bombings? [Ayers said he didn't "want to discount the possibility" in this [2] New York Times article from September 11, 2001. -- Ed.]
A quote from a Politico piece by Ben Smith on the Obama/Ayers connection:
As Bloomberg News reported recently, Obama and Ayers have crossed paths repeatedly in the last decade. In 1997, Obama cited Ayers' critique of the juvenile justice system in a Chicago Tribune article on what prominent Chicagoans were reading. He and Ayers served together on the board of the Woods Fund of Chicago for three years starting in 1999. In 2001, Ayers also gave $200 to Obama's state Senate reelection campaign.Many details of the 1995 meeting are shrouded by time and by Obama's and Ayers' refusals to discuss it.
The exact date is not known, but it was in the second half of 1995, before Palmer's decision -- late in her losing congressional primary against Jesse Jackson Jr. -- to jump back into the special election for her state Senate seat. (Her decision produced a rift between her and Obama, who was able to get her thrown off the ballot on technical grounds.)
"That's too long ago -- that's ancient history," Palmer said, when asked of the meeting.
Dr. Young and another guest, Maria Warren, described it similarly: as an introduction to Hyde Park liberals of the handpicked successor to Palmer, a well-regarded figure on the left.
"When I first met Barack Obama, he was giving a standard, innocuous little talk in the living room of those two legends-in-their-own-minds, Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn," Warren wrote on her blog in 2005. "They were launching him -- introducing him to the Hyde Park community as the best thing since sliced bread."
Yep, total strangers. Sure sounds like it.
Yeah...
So who ya gonna vote for, Amy?
Crid [cridcridatgmail] at November 1, 2008 2:26 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2008/11/01/reading_writing_3.html#comment-1601831">comment from Crid [cridcridatgmail]Already voted. Will blog about it tomorrow.
Amy Alkon
at November 1, 2008 6:51 AM
That was a great article on PJM. Scary, that this man has the respect of so many idiots. He is no different than Osama in thought, only in competence. And I don't think lack of competence at bomb-building deserves respect and tenure.
momof3 at November 1, 2008 7:07 AM
The scary thing about an Obama presidency is not that he will suddenly morph into Joseph Stalin at his inauguration.
It's the empowerment that radicals like Bill Ayers, Bernadette Dohrn, and their ilk will feel that is scary; people who have no regrets about sitting around in their youth contemplating the "elimination" of the 25 million who refuse to go along with them.
It's the lack of checks and balances on liberal/socialist legislators like Barney Frank, Nancy Pelosi, George Miller, Barbara Lee, Chris Dodd, and Harry Reid that is scary.
President Barack Obama will do little to curb their excesses of these extremists in the beginning. In many ways, he will feel sympathy for them and agree with their goals. But, if he's not careful, he will end up surrendering much of the power of the executive branch of our government to them and being reduced to little more than a figurehead.
Shortly after the beginning of the Obama presidency, Pelosi and Reid will pass "reform" legislation that will make it all but impossible for incumbent legislators to lose their seats - so the Dems can maintain a veto-proof majority in Congress. Obama will sign this bill - giving Pelosi and Reid the political cover they need.
With a secure veto-proof majority, Congress need fear little from the executive branch of the government. Pelosi and Reid will then work hard to bring the thus-far tame "blue dog" Dems into line.
When it's over, "Barry," like a latter-day Jake Holman, will be sitting in the temple, hugging his gun, and wondering what the hell happened.
Conan the Grammarian at November 1, 2008 11:16 AM
Don't forget that the Obamunist, Ayers, and Dohrn had a family reunion at the Rashid Khalidi dinner on August 1, 2003. No wonder the LA Times is guarding that tape as if it was made out of plutonium.
Martin at November 1, 2008 5:53 PM
Kill 25 million? No, the coward will try to incite others to kill 25 million. Too bad for him the Second Amendment is still part of the Constitution. I don't think you could kill 25 thousand without sparking the second American Civil War. His side doesn't have the guns.
Ayers had best stick to academia.
MarkD at November 3, 2008 6:56 AM
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