Homeopathy Is For Dipshits
Terrific piece by Mark Crislip on Science-Based Medicine, slapping down the nitwitty claims from homeopath Louise McClean in her piece giving 50 "facts" about homeopathy. An excerpt from Crislip:
Fact 12 - Homeopathic remedies are cheap.Logical Fallacy: none.
Error: Yes, water is inexpensive. However, think for a moment what it takes to make a homeopathic preparation. Take a 25 ml (1.7 tablespoons) bottle of 200C homeopathic preparation. To make such a product you need 495 liters (about 130 gallons, or 1040 pints) of water to make the required dilutions for one bottle (4). That is an amazing waste of water. Environmentally maybe not so cheap.
Fact 13 - Pharmaceutical medicines are expensive.Logical Fallacy: strawman, non sequitur. false dichotomy, which I like to call the, 'oh yeah, well you are fat' fallacy.
Error: some real medications are expensive , some are not. Unlike homeopathy, pharmaceutical medicines are proven to work. Whatever the failings of science based medicine, those failings do not validate homeopathy. Homeopathy has to stand or fall on its own, not on the perceived failings of others. It is like declaring you are thin, because I am fat.
Fact 14 - There are more than 4,000 homeopathic medicines.Logical Fallacy: strawman.
Error: Homeopathy is one 'medication': water.
Fact 15 - Homeopathic medicines have no toxic side-effects.Logical Fallacy: none
Error: tell that to Percy Bysshe Shelley. Medications can only have side effects if first they have an effect. No effect, no side effect. I wonder. Do homeopaths ever misdiagnose? If so, what is the effect of giving the wrong homeopathic treatment?
Fact 16 - Homeopathic medicines are non-addictive.Logical Fallacy: none.
Error: you try going without water.







The very first fallacy of Homeopathic Remedy is this: the idea that water "remembers".
If that doesn't peg your bogometer, you are either a sucker or a fool.
brian at January 14, 2009 4:19 AM
This is what happens when chemistry and shrooms meet and have a baby. The only reason this shit ever worked is that it started in the dark days of medicine, just like christian science. There was a time when you were much better off doing nothing (ie: water and prayer) than going to the doctor. Leaches, bleeding and some shit that was so esoteric (or crazy) that it had to have required chemical flights of fancy to even consider, trepheening.
We evil EBM butchers left the dark ages or are trying very hard to. The alties are stuck there.
vlad at January 14, 2009 6:24 AM
Crislip cracks me up! All the Science-Based Medicine doctors have their own variety of cutting wit, but his is just so very dry and unexpected.
Melissa G at January 14, 2009 6:33 AM
It is scary to know that some people out there still believe that fancy water can cure illness.
Toubrouk at January 14, 2009 7:19 AM
still believe that fancy water can cure illness.
People believe there is a difference in the general water molecule and how the body absorbs it.
There's a sucker born every minute. -- David Hannum
Jim P. at January 14, 2009 8:05 AM
There's a sucker born every minute.
Indeed, Jim, indeed...
Toubrouk at January 14, 2009 8:16 AM
They sell tap water in bottles for more per gallon than gasoline. Yes, there are suckers out there.
MarkD at January 14, 2009 8:49 AM
Mark -
A good number of people are paying for the convenience of the bottle. There are also a good number who believe it is objectively "better", when there are no standards enforced.
Although some of the places I've lived, the tap water was lethal, and bottled water was the only option. But when the local store is selling it in gallon jugs for 59 cents, it's not such a burden.
brian at January 14, 2009 9:23 AM
To be fair, leeches have their place in medicine, as does bloodletting. So even then science based medicine was better than alt.
Idiots, one and all, who buy into this. I love when Amy links these pieces. It makes my life super-easy when I have to contradict someone. I just borrow her link and finish my coffee.
momof3 at January 14, 2009 10:04 AM
momof3 -
Homeopathy is easy enough without a link.
The "memory" of water you say? So presumably this water also remembers the bacteria that's swam about in it. How about the critters that have lived in it? What about the shit and other raw sewage it's come into contact with?
Of course I've found that most people who use homeopathic bullshit, don't even know what it actually is.* They usually think that there is something of the "medicine" in there. Just explaining what they're actually using is enough to make them rethink their support of homeopathy.
*Count me as one of them, way back when. Homeopathy was erroneously explained to me as a very small amount of like fighting like.
DuWayne at January 14, 2009 2:44 PM
I was thinking about the memory of water and this just came up in my mind:
What the water knew before it reach the tap/homeopatic "Lab"?
i think we need to worry about that. If homeopaths are ready to swear that water remembers any foreign substance she swim across, why aren't we sick by the simple fact of drinking tap water? What is the effect of copper pipes and the chemicals they put in the water to clean it at the water plant?
Toubrouk at January 14, 2009 5:56 PM
Keep in mind that the water coming out of your tap was dinosaur piss a million years ago.
brian at January 14, 2009 7:03 PM
Yay, I got the Shelley joke!
Paul Hrissikopoulos at January 14, 2009 7:19 PM
Keep in mind that the water coming out of your tap was dinosaur piss a million years ago.
Shows how little you know, that just makes it better. And a million years out? That's some seriously homeopathic fucking magic.....
DuWayne at January 14, 2009 7:55 PM
Keep in mind that the water coming out of your tap was dinosaur piss a million years ago.
Shows how little you know, that just makes it better. And a million years out? That's some seriously homeopathic fucking magic.....
Exactly, since homeopathic medicine is supposed to be more potent the more it is diluted. Since our water has been exposed to every nasty poison their is, it should be lethal.
momof3, you left out maggots. I read where some researchers have put them in infected wounds, where they ate the dead tissue and helped clear the infection. Supposedly quite effective.
William (wbhicks@hotmail.com) at January 17, 2009 8:49 AM
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