The "Gentle" Muslim Beheader
Along the lines of those accounts from the astonished next-door neighbors of serial killers, who always say stuff like "But, he always tended the roses so beautifully!", MSNBC posts the AP's ridiculous take on the Muslim-American barbarian who beheaded his wife:
'Never heard him raise his voice'
"I've never heard him raise his voice," said Paul Moskal, who became friendly with the couple while he was chief counsel for the FBI in Buffalo. Moskal would answer questions in forums aired on Bridges TV that were intended to improve understanding between Muslim-Americans and law enforcement."His personal life kind of betrayed what he tried to portray publicly," Moskal said.
On Feb. 12, Hassan went to a police station and told officers his wife was dead at the TV studio.
"We found her laying in the hallway the offices were off of," Benz said. Aasiya Hassan's head was near her body.
"I don't know if (the method of death) does mean anything," said the chief, who would not discuss what weapon may have been used. "We certainly want to investigate anything that has any kind of merit. It's not a normal thing you would see."
...NOW condemns prosecutors
The New York president of the National Organization for Women, Marcia Pappas, condemned prosecutors for referring to the death as an apparent case of domestic violence."This was, apparently, a terroristic version of 'honor killing,'" a statement from NOW said.
Nadia Shahram, who teaches family law and Islam at the University at Buffalo Law School, explained honor killing as a practice still accepted among fanatical Muslim men who feel betrayed by their wives.
"If a woman breaks the law which the husband or father has placed for the wife or daughter, honor killing has been justified," said Shahram, who was a regular panelist on a law show produced by Bridges TV. "It happens all the time. It's been practiced in countries such as Pakistan and in India."
Acquaintances said Mo Hassan was not overtly religious -- co-workers did not see him pray, for instance. But he seemed to adhere to many traditional practices.
Nancy Sanders, the television station's news director for 2 1/2 years, remembers him asking her to move her feet during her job interview so he would not see her legs. She was wearing a skirt and stockings.
He also would not let women enter his office unless his wife was there, and he blocked the station from airing a story about the first Muslim woman to win the title of Miss England in 2005, Sanders said.
Acquaintances said Aasiya Hassan was trained as an architect. Sanders described her as obedient to her husband, and that she wore a traditional hijab for a time but later stopped without explanation.
Read this bit again: "Aasiya Hassan's head was near her body." Yeah, he's gentle, all right.
who became friendly with the couple while he was chief counsel for the FBI in Buffalo.
Does this mean this guy had some connection to the FBI?
kishke at February 18, 2009 6:47 AM
"His personal life kind of betrayed what he tried to portray publicly"
I know "kind of" is a verbal tic, but that's a really unfortunate statement.
hanmeng at February 18, 2009 7:20 AM
Mark Steyn, as always:
...when Mr. Hassan launched his Bridges TV station to counter "negative stereotypes" of Muslims, he got the traditional tongue baths from NBC's Brian Williams, NPR's "All Things Considered" et al... Don't they have a responsibility to revisit the story now that it's got a little more complicated - or, as old-school editors would say, "newsworthy"
Snoop-Diggity-DANG-Dawg at February 18, 2009 7:28 AM
"But it's not domestic violence"... Yeah, we know, as far as the gender feminists are concerned, it's only American men who are inherently evil. America's gender feminists are probably having a contest right now to see who gets to marry Hassan while he's in prison. (I was going to say something cruder, but I'm at work.)
Cousin Dave at February 18, 2009 7:31 AM
"His personal life kind of betrayed what he tried to portray publicly," Moskal said.
This is something Muslims do on a regular basis. I think Islamists have the wonderful tendency of shooting themselves in the foot at any occasion the modern world crush their fragile, medieval egos. How can you claim spiritual high-ground after a suicide bombing or other acts of gross barbarity? The whole article reeks of "But he was such a good muslim..." as if a viper is a good pet until it bites you.
Yes, the "Kind of betrayed" part of the article is the understatement of the year.
Toubrouk at February 18, 2009 7:56 AM
"condemned prosecutors for referring to the death as an apparent case of domestic violence.
"This was, apparently, a terroristic version of 'honor killing,'"" - NOW
What they don't realize is that they give unintended creedence to this act by saying this. Wrong. In this country murder is against the law. It makes no difference why you do it, what your religion is, etc. This guy is a common criminal, diffentiating this from other kinds of murder or calling it something different than domestic violence ending in murder is stupid. Sadly they are going to worry over his rights and comfort far more than they should.
SwissArmyD at February 18, 2009 9:41 AM
The New York president of the National Organization for Women, Marcia Pappas, condemned prosecutors for referring to the death as an apparent case of domestic violence.
"This was, apparently, a terroristic version of 'honor killing,'" a statement from NOW said.
I wonder why NOW is so concerned about semantics? It seems to me that an honor killing is a very extreme form of domestic violence. Does NOW regard "domestic violence" as too mild a term for the Hassan case?
old rpm daddy at February 18, 2009 10:15 AM
He never raised his voice. As for his scimitar...
Jim Treacher at February 18, 2009 10:55 AM
Marcia Pappas' statement was taken from a NOW Press Release which clarifies her/their belief somewhat but still leaves plenty open to question.
They also believe the story was covered up, although I heard about it days and days ago at FARK on 2/15, which got it from Telegraph which published it on 2/14/09, two days after it occurred, and two days before NOW discussed it on 2/16. (Us misogynistic FARKers were discussing this before NOW alerted the feminist world.)
NOW's statement continues to make this a male on female crime, though studies show that women initiate domestic violence about 40% of the time, and that up to 30% of lesbian partners also experience domestic violence. I don't know how they do that since they don't have a penis.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/2/16/14237/7715
NOW New York State is horrified that Erie County DA, Frank A. SeditaII, has referred to this ghastly crime as "the worst form of domestic violence possible." The ridiculous juxtaposition of "domestic" and "beheading" in the same journalistic breath points up the inherent weakness of the whole "domestic violence" lexicon.
What is "domestic" about this violence? NOW NYS President Marcia Pappas says "it is high time we stop regarding assaults and murders as a lover's quarrels gone bad. We further demand of lawmakers that punishments fit crimes. We of NOW decry the selective enforcement of assault laws and call for judicial enforcement of our mandatory arrest policy, even when the axe-wielder is known by his victim."
And why is this horrendous story not all over the news? Is a Muslim woman's life not worth a five-minute report? This was, apparently, a terroristic version of "honor killing," a murder rooted in cultural notions about women's subordination to men. Are we now so respectful of the Muslim's religion that we soft-peddle atrocities committed in it's name? Millions of women in this country are maimed and killed by their husbands or partners. Had this awful murder been perpetrated by a African American, a Latino, a Jew, or a Catholic, the story would be flooding the airwaves. What is this deafening silence?
And exactly what do orders of protection do? Was Aasiya desperately waving the order of protection in Muzzamil's face when he slashed at her throat? Was it still clutched in her hand as her head hit the floor?
jerry at February 18, 2009 11:19 AM
Orders of protection help the prosecution win their murder case by providing a paper trail of previous behavior on the part of the defendant.
lujlp at February 18, 2009 11:33 AM
If she had an order of protection against him, what was she doing in HIS place of business? Not saying that she brought it on herself, but that's where she was found. Just wondering if he took her there by force or if she went there on her own.
Sandy at February 18, 2009 11:59 AM
"Acquaintances said Mo Hassan was not overtly religious -- co-workers did not see him pray, for instance." So he wasn't Muslim just a fucking nut case or Arabic origins. So you don't have to Muslim to be a nut case is about the only thing this case proves. Oh and that orders of protection are useless. Neither of which are new ideas.
vlad at February 18, 2009 12:14 PM
Just to make clear, everything after the url in my previous post is a quote from the NOW statement.
(One item of interest is Pappas' statement: "Are we now so respectful of the Muslim's religion that we soft-peddle atrocities committed in it's name?")
It's hard to read her statement consistently until you realize that it's all about women as victim, regardless of race, creed, color, religion, class, nation, ....
jerry at February 18, 2009 12:24 PM
Given Paapa refered to my 1yr old nephew as a gang rapist I ignore everything she says
lujlp at February 18, 2009 12:32 PM
As is so common, she had him kicked out of his own house. It appears that much terrible violence occurs only AFTER this type of event occurs. That most men avoid giving in to the rage they must feel when this happens is a testament to male self-control.
My advice to women? You leave instead, in order to avoid the "salt in the wound" escalator.
Jay R at February 18, 2009 1:08 PM
"My advice to women? You leave instead, in order to avoid the "salt in the wound" escalator." So she should leave the house and the kids in it because he might go off the deep end and hack off her head? Um, you don't see a flaw in this logic?
BTW if her getting the house, kids and car drive you to the point of homicidal rage your not the sharpest tool in the shed a self centered EGO maniac and fucking nut to boot. If you fight in court you might get the house back but if you kill her then your definitely not getting the house, the kids or the car back and your doing 25 to life for murder.
vlad at February 18, 2009 1:25 PM
Also the nut bag tried to run her car off the road with the kids in it. Apparently years before the divorce, kind of kills the women should just leave argument in this case at least.
vlad at February 18, 2009 1:31 PM
Pious outrage and lofty principles notwithstanding, Vlad, the statistics are what they are. So, do you want to be "right" and have more women killed, or not?
Jay R at February 18, 2009 1:44 PM
Jay R. your proposal excuses such behavior and makes it sound as though Men are incapable of controlling themselves. My ex got everything, AND ran me into the ground financially. I would still never lift a hand to her nor would I allow it to be done. Just like any other human that I wouldn't harm.There are tons of things we wont know about this case. Especially the timeline for what he did, and why she was there. Excusing this by saying she should have known better doesn't get anyone anywhere, and certainly carries a taint of disrespect to a woman who has be slain without mercy. In that man's culture, it may well be that her intnet to divorce was all it took and getting put out of the house was the least of it. For him, women simply don't divorce, only men do. esp. since he is not characterized as religious, merely traditional.
It's bottom line that a violent controlling person will be enraged if you move to leave them. Yes, it is likely that a person should be careful. It doesn't seem that it would have mattered in this case. Either way, there is no excuse for this, and no way you can say that he shouldn't have controlled himself... He is a criminal plain and simple.
SwissArmyD at February 18, 2009 2:14 PM
"So, do you want to be "right" and have more women killed, or not?" Vs leaving your kids with fucking nut? There is no conclusively right answer but the testament to male self control came off as insulting, to men. That makes us sound like a bunch of knuckle dragging savges over which society threw this vail of civility with nothing but a savage lurking beneath and women are the ones with intolerantly more self control. This is exactly the same shit the NOW harpy is preaching.
As far as the proper solution in this case in my opinion. Putting a clip of .50 hollow points rounds from a Dessert Eagle into the fuckers chest suffices when he tries to behead her. However then we would be discussing her vile murderous action for killing a man armed with a knife using a hand cannon.
vlad at February 18, 2009 2:34 PM
heh, Vlad, that's the only distance that thing is accurate... ;)
SwissArmyD at February 18, 2009 2:42 PM
"heh, Vlad, that's the only distance that thing is accurate... ;)" Yeah I know but the Russian in me couldn't resist. Plus then we know he was close when she fired.
vald at February 18, 2009 2:50 PM
Orders of protection help the prosecution win their murder case by providing a paper trail of previous behavior on the part of the defendant.
They are good for one other thing. If your stalker comes onto your property anyway and you kill him (or her) it should make it easier to avoid prosecution.
I don't condone murder, of course, but I do think that someone who's dealing with a potentially dangerous stalker should get two things: a restraining order and a deadly weapon.
The Other Lily at February 18, 2009 2:50 PM
Some of you folks need to read more carefully and/or get a grip on reality.
Telling someone it is not a good idea to walk down the street at night in a bad neighborhood with a wad of $100 bills sticking out of your pocket is NOT "excusing" robbery -- it's nothing but common sense for those who would like to reduce their risk of being mugged.
Jay R at February 18, 2009 3:59 PM
Sandy, if I understand this properly, they both ran the network. She may have decided that she needed to keep going to the office, in order to protect the value of her share of the business. She probably figured she'd be safe there, with other people around.
Cousin Dave at February 18, 2009 4:28 PM
Eh, fuck you Jay R - I like SwissArmyD and vlad's idea of carrying a big gun a lot better.
Pirate Jo at February 18, 2009 4:35 PM
A sickening video of Muslim-on-Muslim violence in Gaza. It's their "culture."
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1d6_1234539823
kishke at February 18, 2009 4:41 PM
And we can't comment on their "Culture"(I.E. Savagery), right? It would be Anti-PC since we know that Israelites are the only one who can be blamed in the Middle-East for the whole mess.
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Toubrouk at February 18, 2009 6:12 PM
Really, Jay R? Take yourself, and presumably the kids, away from the only home they know because men can't be expected to control their need to kill when they're asked to move out?
How about, since we know men will snap in this situation, we just preemptively kill them instead of bothering with divorce? Maybe while they sleep, with a shotgun? That makes as much sense as the "run bitch run, cause you know he gonna kill ya" crap you're advocating.
momof3 at February 18, 2009 8:51 PM
"Eh, fuck you Jay R" Hey he didn't call you a knuckle dragging violent savage, no need for such language :)
"Telling someone it is not a good idea to walk down the street at night in a bad neighborhood with a wad of $100 bills sticking out of your pocket" However if some nut bag breaks into your house saying you shouldn't have had a nice car and a plasma TV visible form the street is a bit different. This was her home too and she did work. When a stay at home free loader wants to walk with the house and kids I can actually see why your angry (violence is still inexcusable, hide your damn money off shore instead) but she actually worked for the house.
As far as accuracy and handling hand cannons this is amusing. May not be safe for work depending on your company policy. Anyone who has fired one of these bad boys will know two thing true love and a sore wrist.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFJjaj7pXsA
I'm planning on moving to NH just to own one in a few years, among other Sig/Saur are also illegal in this shit hole state.
vlad at February 19, 2009 6:56 AM
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