No Nukes Is Really Bad News
Melanie Kirkpatrick interviews James R. Schlesinger for the WSJ:
'Nuclear weapons are used every day." So says former Defense Secretary James Schlesinger, speaking last month at his office in a wooded enclave of Maclean, Va. It's a serene setting for Doomsday talk, and Mr. Schlesinger's matter-of-fact tone belies the enormity of the concepts he's explaining -- concepts that were seemingly ignored in this week's Moscow summit between Presidents Barack Obama and Dmitry Medvedev. [The Weekend Interview] Terry ShoffnerWe use nuclear weapons every day, Mr. Schlesinger goes on to explain, "to deter our potential foes and provide reassurance to the allies to whom we offer protection."
Mr. Obama likes to talk about his vision of a nuclear-free world, and in Moscow he and Mr. Medvedev signed an agreement setting targets for sweeping reductions in the world's largest nuclear arsenals. Reflecting on the hour I spent with Mr. Schlesinger, I can't help but think: Do we really want to do this?
...Above all, Mr. Schlesinger is a nuclear realist. Are we heading toward a nuclear-free world anytime soon? He shoots back a one-word answer: "No." I keep silent, hoping he will go on. "We will need a strong deterrent," he finally says, "and that is measured at least in decades -- in my judgment, in fact, more or less in perpetuity. The notion that we can abolish nuclear weapons reflects on a combination of American utopianism and American parochialism. . . . It's like the [1929] Kellogg-Briand Pact renouncing war as an instrument of national policy . . . . It's not based upon an understanding of reality."
In other words: Go ahead and wish for a nuclear-free world, but pray that you don't get what you wish for. A world without nukes would be even more dangerous than a world with them, Mr. Schlesinger argues.
"If, by some miracle, we were able to eliminate nuclear weapons," he says, "what we would have is a number of countries sitting around with breakout capabilities or rumors of breakout capabilities -- for intimidation purposes. . . . and finally, probably, a number of small clandestine stockpiles." This would make the U.S. more vulnerable.
...Mr. Schlesinger expresses concerns, too, about the safety and reliability of U.S. nuclear weapons, all of which are more than 20 years old. "I am worried about the reliability of the weapons . . . as time passes. Not this year, not next year, but as time passes and the stockpile ages." There is a worry, too, about the "intellectual infrastructure," he says, as Americans who know how to make nuclear weapons either retire or die. And he notes that the "physical infrastructure" is now "well over 60 years" old. Some of it "comes out of the Manhattan Project."
The U.S. is the only major nuclear power that is not modernizing its weapons. "The Russians have a shelf life for their weapons of about 10 years so they are continually replacing" them. The British and the French "stay up to date." And the Chinese and the Indians "continue to add to their stockpiles." But in the U.S., Congress won't even so much as fund R&D for the Reliable Replacement Warhead. "The RRW has become a toxic term on Capitol Hill," Mr. Schlesinger says. Give it a new name, he seems to be suggesting, and try again to get Congress to fund it. "We need to be much more vigorous about life-extension programs" for the weapons.
We should also be focusing on nuclear power. One great way to turn terrorists back into the goatherds they'd be without Western technology, money, and need for oil.







Yes, by all means more Nuclear power. We should be building plants around the clock.
However, none of those Nuke plants will get us to work in the morning. At least not until plug-in Cars are common.
It's a common misperception that wind, solar, nukes, etc will "get us off foreign oil". They won't. As a transportation fuel, Oil is just too efficient and convenient.
Natural Gas could do the job, and with new drilling techniques developed in the last 3-5 years we have massive supplies in the US but no one other than Boone Pickens seems to think it's worth pursuing.
Oil is it for our lifetimes.
sean at July 11, 2009 5:20 AM
One minor point - it's McLean, not Maclean, Va.
BlogDog at July 11, 2009 6:13 AM
"The U.S. is the only major nuclear power that is not modernizing its weapons."
That's flatly not true, and it renders the rest of the article suspect at best.
The assertion about Russian "shelf life" - as if it does not apply to American designs - is also flatly wrong by implication; that "shelf life" actually varies by design, but is common to all tritiated-secondary nuclear weapons. Tritium simply decays quickly, robbing the core of a Hydrogen bomb of neutrons needed for a "clean" burst.
So far as "infrastructure" is concerned: although Savannah River Site (where I work) is indeed ancient and does not produce Uranium and Plutonium isotopes any more in its dismantled reactors, it does not have to. Hundreds of tons of the stuff was made, and it lasts a long time.
None of this is classified. In a way, it pleases me that the manufacture and rebuilding of nuclear weapons is not widespread knowledge. Shipments of bomb parts to SRS for reprocessing happen routinely and invisibly.
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By the way: do you know when a nuclear war is "winnable"? When the total number of them is low, or the origin of an attack cannot be determined. You should worry about those two things.
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Radwaste at July 11, 2009 6:46 AM
Frankly, when it comes to nukes (weapons or energy) Obama is an idiot.
He has drank the kool-aid that anyt ing nuke is totally, instantly deadly.
He is living in a dream world about it.
Jim P. at July 11, 2009 7:14 AM
I wonder Rad, if by modernization, they mean "New Designs"?
Whenever I read stuff like this too, one has to realize how much CANNOT be told. Schlesinger is trying to prod, but prolly can't say everything he knows, or can guess.
SwissArmyD at July 11, 2009 10:02 AM
To be fair, Mr. Schlesinger is talking about public policy support for continued handling of nuclear weapons and the conversion of thousands of older bombs into more efficient designs. In the process, their number can be reduced or increased as that public policy determines.
I'm not so worried about the number we have as I am of American panic. If a "lost" warhead is detonated in any American city, all of the others will empty, and in the resulting chaos huge numbers will die far outside any blast radius.
We are taught to panic. Until 1993, NYC had high school rifle teams. Now, the presence of any firearm is cause for - you guessed it: panic.
Radwaste at July 11, 2009 1:43 PM
Actually Nuclear power would move our cars in the morning. Interesting book is "Power to Save the World" by Gwyneth Cravens she commented that with more abundant nuclear energy you could put that extra power into making Hydrogen for Hydrogen Vehicles. Of course that does not solve the problem of getting the hydrogen (and safely) to the consumer. Looking at wiki it looks like the concept of Hydrogen Vehicles is pretty much moot.
John Paulson at July 12, 2009 9:02 PM
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