Yoohoo...That Isn't Thomas Jefferson Representing You
Probably just some guy who paid good money for his big white capped teeth. And he's the guy who's going to vote on the health care legislation they're trying to fast-track? Over 1,000 pages long?
Here's John Conyers (no prize himself) on that, from Conyers' Wikipedia page:
In late July 2009, Conyers, commenting on the healthcare debate in the House, stated that "I love these members, they get up and say, 'Read the bill'... What good is reading the bill if it's a thousand pages and you don't have two days and two lawyers to find out what it means after you read the bill?" His remark brought criticism from government transparency advocates such as the Sunlight Foundation, which referred to readthebill.org in response. In the House, 93 representatives signed a pledge, started by Mike Pence of Indiana, to read a health care bill before voting on it.
Well isn't that special!
Not surprisingly, it turns out there's a health care "reform" loophole that could force us schmucks...uh, taxpayers.. to fund the care of illegal immigrants. Which, by the way, we're already doing, to the tune of at least $1.4 billion dollars for illegals in California alone, and $10.5 billion nationally.
About how that's working for us just here in L.A., in the words of County Supe Michael D. Antonovich:
"We're running an H.M.O. for illegal immigrants, and if we keep it up, we're going to bankrupt the county."
The thing that really surprises me about the health care bill probably few have read through, few have ever will, and even fewer will understand -- it's that no lawmakers snuck in stuff like "And I get a brick of coke and three hookers every Tuesday."
Um...or did they?
Comments
Even Thomas Jefferson wasn't Thomas Jefferson. Brilliant though he was, TJ was also a serial child rapist.
When he started having regular sex with her, Sally Hemmings was 15 years old and a slave, so it rape twice over.
Just imagine how that sweet little story might have played out in the media today.
Posted by: Geoffrey James at July 31, 2009 4:00 AM
They get campaign cash, status, favored treatment everywhere they go, and ever-increasing control over their constituents' lives. To a politician, that's better than coke and hookers.
Posted by: Cousin Dave at July 31, 2009 6:49 AM
Not sure what Thomas Jefferson has to do with the story.
I'm not against paying for the illegal immigrants, but think the hospital bills should then be sent to the country of origin. If it is a country that gets aid from us, we should knock it off the amount of aid we give them.
Posted by: NicoleK at July 31, 2009 6:52 AM
Riders should be illegal. I think it's disgusting to sneak something completely not relevant into a bill, or worse, everyone knows it's there but feels pressure (due to the bills importance or the way it would look to the public if they vote against the "give mommies hugs" bill or whatever) to vote for it anyways.
Posted by: Stacy at July 31, 2009 9:20 AM
Even Thomas Jefferson wasn't Thomas Jefferson. Brilliant though he was, TJ was also a serial child rapist.
When he started having regular sex with her, Sally Hemmings was 15 years old and a slave, so it rape twice over.
Just imagine how that sweet little story might have played out in the media today.
Yea yea yea, and I am sure both the age of consent and the moral standards were much different then. In fact I know that they were. Bill Clinton fits the modern definition of a rapist a lot better than Thomas Jefferson ever did. Thomas Jefferson was no saint but his worse character flaw was that he bought a lot of things on credit that he did not have the money to pay for, and then defaulted on his debts. He would at least partly fit in with the modern democratic party in that respect. However, he did know how to read and I suspect a lot of Congress today, does not. At least not in the "reading for comprehension" definition. Isabel
Posted by: Isabel1130 at July 31, 2009 9:37 AM
Jefferson did jump start the Library of Congress, so we can all be thankful for that at least.
The House just authorized more money for this
program:
http://money.cnn.com/2009/07/31/autos/cash_for_clunkers_update/index.htm
Posted by: Stacy at July 31, 2009 11:05 AM
When he started having regular sex with her, Sally Hemmings was 15 years old and a slave, so it rape twice over.
But wait, there's more. He failed to get her vaccinated, too! And, I have no doubt, this helpless child was exposed to all the hazards of living in a house with guns. Is there no end to the depravity of America?
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phunctor
Posted by: phunctor at July 31, 2009 11:34 AM
Health care for these people picking our crops?
Why, let's kick them out and have Amy Alkon pick knee-height veggies all day.
Bets on how long the broad with the bozo-cut lasts?
Minutes or hours?
Okay, you will scream "troll,; but the question stands. People working (hard, I might add), and no health insurance? Why or why not?
If we keep the border wide open (and we do, one million people cross every year, yeah tell me about national security and fighting terrorists) and we use those people to clean buildings (very janitor in L.A. must be an illegal..ever work late at night and see who cleans your office tower) and pick our food, then we are supposed to let them die when they get sick?
And tell me--how much would Alkon charge for fieldwork, per hour? Even if she could last past noon.
We survive on top of a pool of cheap labor from Mexico--that is what allows an Alkon the luxury of typing all day. and not cleaning her toilets.
Posted by: i-holier-than-thou at July 31, 2009 11:52 AM
No, douchebag, we SHOULD DEPORT EVERY FUCKING ONE OF THEM AND SEAL THE BORDER.
If, as we are told, there are some 10% of people unemployed in this country, surely a few of them could pick lettuce and clean bathrooms.
Or do you prefer letting people you clearly regard as inferior do that work for you?
Posted by: brian at July 31, 2009 11:59 AM
Brian, the other problem is that the growers can't employ those 10% and make money if they have to pay them the skyrocketing legal minimum wage. I like to tell people that the current minimum wage law is a full-employment bill for illegals.
Posted by: Cousin Dave at July 31, 2009 1:10 PM
Well, people better get their heads straight then. Because either they support having an underclass that is not subject to the protection of law, or they have to get used to paying more for lettuce.
Posted by: brian at July 31, 2009 1:35 PM
Brian "Connecticunt" Corbino: Why not head down to AZ and join the Minutemen? You and Amy like to talk about your proficiency with high-powered automatics, maybe you could fire off a few rounds down there.
Or, wouldn't you be so rough and tough if, say, a drug dealers actually syatyed firing back?
Oh, libertarians never thought about that side of the equation? Chickenhawks.
Hey, we should close the border. But what libertarians want is an open border, and no minimum wage, and no national health insurance.
That means we have millions upon millions of illegal migrants doing the hardest jobs in America.
I don't look down on anyone who works for living. Do you have a day job, Mr. Connecticunt?
Posted by: i-holier-than-thou at July 31, 2009 3:25 PM
But what libertarians want is an open border, and no minimum wage, and no national health insurance.
Not necessarily. I want a secure border with immigration control.
That means we have millions upon millions of illegal migrants doing the hardest jobs in America.
Tell it to the local guys who are having trouble getting construction work because of the Mexicans, etc. who stand in front of Home Depot every morning.
I don't look down on anyone who works for living. Do you have a day job, Mr. Connecticunt?
You know, you are making the idea of flying out to LA to slap some motherfuckers around look really appealing.
I run a business, shit for brains.
I like how you use my name as though it were some kind of insult. Do you think I'm intimidated by you?
Posted by: brian at July 31, 2009 4:53 PM
You better take the Greyhound bus, Chickenhawk. In your mental condition, airline security would probably stop you from boarding. And remember--no carry-on weapons. Such a bummer for you! That means you come to L.A. with only your wits and fists.
A really bad idea.
You "run a business." Yeah, blogging for dollars? Hew-haw.
Tell Ms. Bozo-hair-doo all about it.
Posted by: i-holier-than-thou at July 31, 2009 5:14 PM
Tell ya what, douchebag, why don't you borrow mommy's credit card and come one out here. You already know enough about me to find me.
See, cockholsters like you have to hide from what you say on the net. I don't.
Posted by: brian at July 31, 2009 6:26 PM
Brian - You really ought to knock off the tough guy routine. You've become a parody of yourself, and I'm pretty sure I could take you in a fight and I'm a 110 pound girl. But your faux macho posturing makes it impossible to take anything you say seriously.
Posted by: OneTwoPunch at July 31, 2009 9:15 PM
> take the Greyhound bus, Chickenhawk
> Tell ya what, douchebag
We need a name for this special summertime psychosis. "Amy's Blog" isn't enough to describe it.
Posted by: Crid [cridcomment@gmail] at August 1, 2009 4:25 AM
Brian - You really ought to knock off the tough guy routine. You've become a parody of yourself, and I'm pretty sure I could take you in a fight and I'm a 110 pound girl. But your faux macho posturing makes it impossible to take anything you say seriously.
Tell ya what, since you're the same person as the i-hole: why don't you fuck off and die.
Let me guess, you can take everything the i-hole says completely seriously because he's so fucking lucid.
Go choke on a dick or something. Just turn off the computer and leave us alone.
Posted by: brian at August 1, 2009 4:34 AM
We need a name for this special summertime psychosis. "Amy's Blog" isn't enough to describe it.
I love how some random asshole shows up out of nowhere to hurl insults at me and at Amy, and somehow it's my fault.
I mean, really. How would anyone who has never bothered to post here be able to make the claim that anyone is making a parody of themselves? Would that be like the drive-by insulter from the other day?
Seriously. If your day consists of trolling random blogs to find people to hurl stupid insults at, you really ought to consider suicide as a career option.
Posted by: brian at August 1, 2009 4:50 AM
> somehow it's my fault.
Well, yes...
Posted by: Crid [CridComment@gmail] at August 1, 2009 6:12 AM
Ooh Brian, I see I hit a nerve. Gosh, I hope you don't grab a bus and come looking for me. . .Seriously, the constant juvenile insults, the mano mano taunts that you'd never follow through on, it truly does make it impossible to even consider that you're the all-knowing, always-right guy you are in your own mind.
Posted by: OneTwoPunch at August 1, 2009 8:49 AM
**We need a name for this special summertime psychosis. "Amy's Blog" isn't enough to describe it.**
Crid, you've asked me before what I do.
After 15 years in the IT business (yes, I share a common industry history with Brian) I can tell you from experience that no one is angrier than ISTJ personality types working in IT - like Brian.
Honor Brian for his skills, because the Brians of the industry spend their lives fixing complex technical problems and struggling with detailed tech specs of Byzantine complexity. The work is deadline-driven and costly to the customer, and those concerns are dropped on the shoulders of the Brians of IT.
The Brians of IT are smart, technically adept, and capable. However, the internal anger of the ISTJ pours out at the slightest prodding, and not just on Amy's message board, but in wiring closets, boardrooms, airplanes, cars, hallways - whenever or wherever the ISTJ feels threatened.
So this is where I make my living.
IT companies hire me not to install the systems, not to support them, not even to make the sales, but to buffer their potential or current customers from the angry Brians.
IT companies send me to the boardroom to address the decision-makers and provide deeper insights into the company offerings; to the trade show to face a crowd of hostile customers and engineers and turn their anger and frustration at yet another complex, expensive solution into multi-million-dollar sales; to foreign countries to engage customers and partners without displaying xenophobic hubris.
They specifically do NOT send the Brians.
If Brian represents an IT professional with 100% technical knowledge, I would rate at only 75-80% of that knowledge by comparison. So please, don't be too hard on the Brians. I make a good living off the gap between the technical skills of the ISTJ and their lack of anger management.
Posted by: Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at August 1, 2009 9:50 AM
Gog -
Back when I worked for a company (instead of myself), it was commonplace to send another person with me on my first visit to a customer to "translate from Brian to Human".
It's taken quite an effort to learn to do that translation myself and not come across as condescending.
Oh, and you're right about the anger. That's taking a lot more work to control.
Nothing sets me off faster than stupidity. And machines are loaded with it.
Needless to say, so are trolls.
Oh, and to our lovely troll here - projection isn't a river in Egypt.
Posted by: brian at August 1, 2009 10:22 AM
> I make a good living off the gap
> between the technical skills of
> the ISTJ and their lack of anger
> management.
In the career I've done about half-a-dozen takedowns of engineering types who lose sight of their role in the process. On Planet Cridmo, fractured souls are not excused.
Posted by: Crid [CridComment @ gmail] at August 1, 2009 3:25 PM
