Can You Have A Black Mayor In Boise?
You can't if white people there care more about skin color than anything else, because the black population in the last census was just .8 percent: 1,437 black people to 171,204 white people.
In the last election, as a California fiscal conservative who's socially libertarian and a "personal responsibilitarian," I voted my politics -- or as close as I could get to them -- by casting my lot with the libertarians and voting for a guy I typically call "the execrable loser Bob Barr."
If I voted based on skin color, I would have voted for Obama. I think that, in such a short time after Jim Crow Laws and separate drinking fountains, that it's really cool that we have a black president.
But, I find voting for a black president -- or a woman president or any president but the best possible candidate (or the least odious candidate) -- to be racist and sexist.
I would find it really creepy if some mostly white town had some citizen come out at election time and say, "No way can a white town have a black mayor!"
I found it equally creepy to hear what political strategist Tom Houck said in a WaPo article by Erinn Haines about the white woman running for mayor of Atlanta, a city approximately 57 percent black in 2007:
"Atlanta is a black city, a symbol to the world," Houck said. "Putting Mary's face on that picture would be hard for a lot of people to stomach."







Amy,
Sorry I have been absent lately but I have had a lot of worries, I lost my job.
That aside, you mentioned some things that struck home with some issues that I had with the past presidential election. I vote for the best person. It does seem that this is not what happened in the black community because I have seen numbers up 98% of the black population voted for Obama. If this were the case, tables turned I believe that the media would have had a heyday with it and used it for there soapbox on predjudiced white America.
I also remember before the election all the questions from the black community about whether or not Obama was black enough in part because he was fully one half white. Now that he won all these hypocrites find him to be the first "African American" president (in my opinion this is unbecoming of a president, he or she should be American period.) It has been my experience that suddenly Obama is black enough and in fact it seems that his white half has been all but erased.
I for one have taught my kids not to let PC get in the way of what is real history and Obama is not the first black president.
One has to remember the day is coming when there will be a black president and we have now just destroyed his real place in history. Mind you I really do not give in to these false firsts because there is really only one fist and Obama in reality is the 44th president, nothing more nothing less. Saying so proves that there is still racism in the our country because race should not have any special place be it black or white and making mention at all about a persons race or sex in any aspect of life proves our sexism and racism.
I do not but it is apparent that this country has a long way to go and that it is far from one sided.
b
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Bernie Misiura at December 1, 2009 12:10 AM
"'Atlanta is a black city, a symbol to the world,' Houck said."
This is so ridiculously false as to inspire illness, because its prosperity is completely external to city government. Atlanta, is case you haven't been there and seen the denuded wasteland between downtown and the Beltway, isn't anything to brag about. As with its little cousin Augusta, GA, the main function of a "minority" presence in government seens to be the replacement of racial outrage with a grim sense of failure.
And be careful, Mr. Houck. You're about to promote your way completely out of victim status.
Radwaste at December 1, 2009 2:07 AM
I once heard someone foolishly-say that blacks can't discriminate because they are the minority and therefore have no power.
David M. at December 1, 2009 5:56 AM
Well we all know how well New Orlean's black mayor did. Surely every city needs one!
momof4 at December 1, 2009 7:37 AM
...political strategist Tom Houck...
Any relation to Ren? Oh wait, never mind. Ren spells his last name "Hoek".
http://tiny.cc/9WwaM
Flynne at December 1, 2009 7:43 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2009/12/01/_if_i_voted_bas.html#comment-1679973">comment from momof4Well we all know how well New Orlean's black mayor did. Surely every city needs one!
The whole point of this post is not voting based on skin color! For or against! People are incompetent, sleazy, stupid, whatever...white people, black people, spotted people (freckles, I'm talking about), etc.
Amy Alkon
at December 1, 2009 7:46 AM
I remember back in 1999(?), when the Washington Post expressed surprise that Martin O'Malley, the current governor of Maryland and a white man, was the Democrat nominee for Baltimore mayor. Some of these media people are sooooo race-obsessed.
mpetrie98 at December 1, 2009 8:43 AM
Atlanta, is case you haven't been there and seen the denuded wasteland between downtown and the Beltway, isn't anything to brag about. As with its little cousin Augusta, GA, the main function of a "minority" presence in government seens to be the replacement of racial outrage with a grim sense of failure.
I lived in ATL for years and still miss it, but you basically nailed it.
LS at December 1, 2009 9:11 AM
I think it's high time we follow this brilliant political strategist's line of thinking all the way and divide the country by race, sending Octoroons to Atlanta, Quadroons to Denver, and Quintroons to what are now the Native American reservations of Oklahoma (they won't be happy but what the hell, I don't live there).
Finally, we'll have America in 'roons.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at December 1, 2009 11:09 AM
Well we all know how well New Orlean's black mayor did.
Yes, he systematically murdered off and then shipped out the entire population of his city that was poor. Now Houstiana got to watch our crime rate and welfare rate skyrocket. When he was at risk of loosing the following election, he talked about busing all of those poor people back because 'New Orleans has always been a brown town and always should be one'. However, even if he were white and just as stupid...he would still be an idiotic murderer.
-Julie
JulieW at December 1, 2009 11:10 AM
Looking at Nagin, the super dome, and the school buses up to the wheels in
water. He stated [paraphrase] "He had no control and couldn't use the school buses to evacuate people."
BULL-FUCKING-SHIT!!!!!!!!
If I were too be looking at the biggest disaster I can imagine -- it just simply doesn't matter. You use every available resource to achieve safety for all that look to you.
I personally carry a BOB (Bug-Out-Bag) in my vehicle at all times. Extra clothes, thermals, emergency blankets, first aid stuff, flashlight, etc. Enough to survive about three days. Maybe two people for 2-3 days.
I wouldn't be caught dead expecting anyone to bail me out in less than 12 hours. About the only case would be my house lit on fire. Even then, if I was out, it is my responsibilty to make arrangements.
Jim P. at December 1, 2009 5:35 PM
I wouldn't be caught dead expecting anyone to bail me out in less than 12 hours. About the only case would be my house lit on fire. Even then, if I was out, it is my responsibilty to make arrangements.
Normally I agree with you. More than a few people stayed in NO simply because they didn't believe that it was going to be a horrible storm. However, many others wanted to get out of dodge, but didn't have a car or means to even buy a $50 bus ticket to Houston. It is those people who I'm angered that no one helped. I will never forget all of the people who can pouring into town on fumes, sleeping in parking lots, begging for formula for their babies. One thing that many people don't know, is that the people bussed out of NO after the storm were given a cot at the AstroDome, but the people who were rendered homeless but evacuated on their own weren't helped at all. They were turned away at the door.
-Julie
JulieW at December 2, 2009 8:38 AM
I grew up in Atlanta. It isn't a "black" city. It's a city with lots of different kinds of people, of whom the most responsible have been driven outside the city limits by the usual combination of crime and high taxes.
In the 70s, my parents used to take me to a Tom Houck's parties down on 8th Street. He was a flabby white guy who fancied himself an "organizer". I'm thinking he must be the same person, because how could there be more that one of this particular odious type by the same name?
The parties mostly consisted of a bunch of grubby hippies drinking cheap wine, trying to sleep with each others' spouses, yammering on about the "Movement" (not bowel), and flashing that mass murderer Mao's Little Red Book. The most memorable guest was Arlo Guthrie, (who could make this up?), who got bombed and acted nasty to the other guests.
People occasionally ask how I ended up conservative.
Robin at December 2, 2009 9:25 AM
New Orleans? "Bug-out" bag?
Don't miss this. Take the lessons.
Radwaste at December 2, 2009 2:59 PM
I'm afraid primitive tribalism is coded deeply into our genes - *all* of us, of all races. This problem is fundamentally unsolvable until we are able to re-engineer that behavior out of our collective DNA. Fear-of-the-other-tribe can be a self-fulfilling prophecy; our genetic instincts guide us to create coherent communities with people in our tribe - the very act of being led by someone from a different tribe, i.e. manifested via skin color, creates rifts in our communities as they feel less like communities. Those rifts can cause the community to come apart. We're stuck with our genes for the moment ... it takes incredible effort to brainwash people into going against their genetic instincts to be 'racist', and even then the results are flimsy, plus the necessity of applying brainwashing causes some people to revolt against that brainwashing itself.
As humans we have to structure our societies based on how humans really are, not on how we wish humans would ideally be (that is one of the most fundamental mistakes in the communist ideology, for example). So it is with our tribalism; if groups of people, black or white, want to live in communities led by members of their own tribe, that should be allowed and encouraged; it will create stronger more tight-knit and meritocratic communities. Attempting to force "integration" on an unwilling populace is not just a violation of liberty, it is also harmful to the very cause it attempts to promote.
This is not an argument for *forced* segregation, as that too is an even worse violation of liberties. It is, however, an argument that if masses of blacks naturally want to migrate to a 'black city' and be led by a black person, then fine, let them; likewise for whites. Those people who want to create mixed, integrated societies will naturally migrate to such sub-societies too. This is not a problem that needs solving. We don't need to freak out hysterically at every homogenous sub-society we come across as if homogeneity is some evil to be destroyed.
Whites or blacks choosing a mayor of their own color, rather than choosing based on merit, is most certainly illogical and irrational. However, it is also most certainly *human*, and we *are* humans, with stupid animal human needs and desires, even when they make no rational sense, it makes sense from the perspective that we like those desires met. And as long as it doesn't actually hurt anyone, then so what; meritocratic nominations may logically create the most optimal societies, but libertarian philosophy isn't about artificially engineering the most optimal society.
Lobster at December 3, 2009 4:00 PM
Maybe you recall the uproar over Rush Limbaugh's bid to enter a partnership in owning the St. Louis Rams.
At one point it was offered that since 70% of the players are black, there was no place for the sort of person Rush is in team ownership.
Hmm. Double irony.
Not only does the NFL itself sack the entire concept of diversity for diversity's sake - performance in reaching a common goal is what counts - if the people nodding their heads at this actually started thinking clearly, they'd have to trim team rosters.
Because they don't have enough white, Hispanic and Asian players.
It's just one more example of people having the opinion that what they want is "right" and what you want is wrong.
Radwaste at December 4, 2009 7:10 PM
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