If You Rob A Bank
And if you go for a number of years without getting caught, should we just, you know, let bygones be bygones? And hey, not only that, but maybe give you a down payment on a home or some other reward...just for being you?
From the LA Times L.A. Now blog, a bipartisan show that we are in desperate need a third party -- one that cares about enforcing our laws instead of just tearing them up in hopes of pandering to the Latino voterhood:
Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) have laid out the framework for a comprehensive, bipartisan immigration reform bill that would include tougher border enforcement, creation of biometric Social Security cards and a path to legalization for the nation's estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants.The announcement of the plan, which brought immediate praise from President Obama, comes days before a pro-immigration march scheduled for the nation's capital on Sunday.
"It thoughtfully addresses the need to shore up our borders, and demands accountability from both workers who are here illegally and employers who game the system," Obama said in a prepared statement.
"Accountability"? Is that what we call it? Rewarding people who broke our immigration laws with citizenship?
The border-control and enforcement provisions will never actually get funded. We know this because that's exactly what has been happening the last two years.
Cousin Dave at March 19, 2010 8:17 AM
If I had immigrated to this country legally and jumped through all the necessary hoops, I'd be royally fucking pissed off at this.
What part of ILLEGAL, exactly, is unclear here?
The mind boggles.
Ann at March 19, 2010 8:29 AM
"If I had immigrated to this country legally and jumped through all the necessary hoops, I'd be royally fucking pissed off at this."
Both sides of my families immigrated here (one side in the 30's - 40's the other side in the early 60's).
I can tell you, with all the cavity searches, quarantines, glaucoma tests, vaccines, basic history and civic tests, finding a legal sponsor/US citizen, paying a large sum of money, and providing proof of a job, all prior to entry into this country (just to name a few off the top of my head) - you could probably bet on that sentiment.
Feebie at March 19, 2010 9:15 AM
Citizenship is not mentioned in the proposal. Legal residence is not the same thing, and temporary workers are yet something else.
Anon at March 19, 2010 9:26 AM
Now, observe.
You want to fly on a plane, you submit to X-rays, ID checks and strip searches, and you wait in line barefoot and silent lest the idiot guard pull you out of line.
Swim the Rio Grande, you get a job, a driver's license and several Congressmen salivating over your vote.
But don't swim the Florida Strait. If you're a Cuban Hispanic, you get pushed back into the sea. You're not the "right kind" of Hispanic.
Radwaste at March 19, 2010 10:57 AM
I would rather just send the illegals back home them and have them do it the right way like the legalized immigrants did. I realize that is not PC but I don't really care. I don't get to go to other countries and demand the same rights as a citizen. I have to jump through their countries hoops to have that privelage. I don't see why it should be different here.
Sabrina at March 19, 2010 11:26 AM
My thoughts exactly, Sabrina. I looked into moving to Ireland or the UK and it's pretty fucking impossible at the moment. Sure, I could "go visit" and not leave, but that's ILLEGAL, just like running across the US border is ILLEGAL.
Kick them out and make them come in the right way. It's only fair to the others who had to do it that way.
Ann at March 19, 2010 11:34 AM
Ummmm, Yes. It's called the statute of limitations. You may have heard of this common feature of most legal systems. Here in California, I believe it is three years for armed robbery.
Retief at March 19, 2010 12:35 PM
Just out of curiosity - in what practical manner could you actually throw 11 million people out of the country?
Snoopy at March 19, 2010 1:03 PM
Of topic but we have had a rash of local bank robberies lately. I wasn't aware that people still robbed banks. I guess I assumed that it was kind of like polio, problem solved. Nope, "National bank robbery figures are relatively flat for 2005 and beyond, according to the FBI. There were 6,748 in 2005, 6,985 in 2006, 5,933 in 2007, and 6,700 in 2008."
6,000 bank robberies a year! Crid, I'm starting to think about the wisdom of a virtual ing bank.
smurfy at March 19, 2010 2:34 PM
First, close the border. Prove that one can stop the flow of illegal immigrants. Then make it easy to leave. Finally, make life unpleasant: finr companies that hire illegals, deny any services other than in emergencies. Even in emergencies, give the help and then deport them.
It could be done, but we haven't got the collective cajones...
Bradley13 at March 19, 2010 3:10 PM
I would argue a "gray" card.
If you are caught by an INS, cops, etc for something and found to be illegal -- you get biometriced out the ass on the spot (finger, retina, DNA, etc.).
From there you have to have valid proof of a job and report in quarterly. If you lose your job you have to show up at the "job hall" or find a job.
If you don't show up -- you are on the instant deport list.
It will solve several problems -- the underground economy and criminal elements.
Jim P. at March 19, 2010 7:38 PM
The drug and low-wage-worker trade is far too profitable for any Senator or Representative to fight against. It would be as stupid as trying to take on the "defense" industry.
Gog_Magog_Carpet_Reclaimers at March 19, 2010 9:58 PM
Smurf— Who told you about that?
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at March 19, 2010 11:06 PM
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