As the Dr. (of what?) ends the video saying not all men are ferocious wolves. Let's say that that is true (not all of us are). When Mohammad consummated the marriage with Aisha when she was nine...maybe he was very tender with her...say it with me "Dude, you have sex with children". He may have also been very gentle as well...say it with me "Dude, you have sex with children." Ok that's fine for now...

Onto the magic in Afghanistan known as "Manlove Thursday". Allah doesn't pay attention on Thursday nights...also, it's not gay if you are the one doing the penetrating...fancy logic there "come here you dirty little faggot, daddy needs to get his knob wet"...which leads me to another fun fact: 70% of men in Afghanistan had their first sexual experience with a male family memeber.

Let's consider this "religion"...yes the other ones have very silly aspects too but this one is stark raving mad, it teaches rules not morals. The idea is, if Allah isn't looking, I can't get in trouble...I remember those days, when my parents were gone and I was alone I could misbehave at will...if a muslim departs Arab airspace mid-prayer...they stop (I haven't seen this, this is according to my father-in-law who has). The logic patterns are completely fucked until you consider them as 10 year olds with retard strength. That's my opinion of them.

One last time as a group: "Dude, you have SEX with CHILDREN."

Apparently the Catholics and Muslims have more in common than I first thought. Oh wait...the Catholics go for the little boys.

Red - no need to lump all religions/societies together.

Islam is a shame-based, narcisstic culture. People evaluate their worth and righteousness based on external opinion. No external condemnation = no regret or remorse.

By contrast, Judaism and most Christian cultures are based on internal notions of guilt and merit that lead to mature morality.

And modern PC "progressivism"?
Also a shame-based - and INCREDIBLY narcisstic - culture. It's all about striking popular poses and parroting convention, avoiding giving offense. It's also - like Islam - brutal in suppressing dissent.

Not a comparison many who dump on religion may want to hear... but it fits.

Ben the only reason judaism & christian cultures are more 'mature' is because at various points our ancestors decided to ignore most of their religious dogma.

Od isnt it? How ne as to ignore most of gods edicts in order to become more "moral"

Not a comparison many who practice religion may want to hear... but its true

Ben-David, that is an interesting observation about shame-based cultures and how they contrast with guilt-based ones.

>>Apparently the Catholics and Muslims have more in common than I first thought. Oh wait...the Catholics go for the little boys.

Posted by: The Former Banker at April 23, 2010 1:55 AM

Stupid is still stupid. Catholics do not go for little boys. Some Catholic priests go for little boys. Sorry your hatred for Catholics keeps you from understanding the difference.

Actually, the priests were going after young teenage boys.

The media spun it as pedophilia because they didn't want to admit the unpleasant truth - homosexual men that wanted to prey on young teen boys went in to the priesthood because it offered them unfettered access and a privacy privilege and they thought they could get away with it.

This is no different than women who want to prey on young boys going into education where they will have a similar relationship with their young charges that allows them to hide their misdeeds.

As usual, people with an axe to grind get the causality backwards because it more comfortably fits their worldview.

Same with Muslims, irlandes. It's not like all Muslims are molesting kids.

Not all, but it will be ok for them should they want it.

I don't remember if the Bible condones sex with children or not, but it DOES condone selling your kids into slavery. Re-read Leviticus. Really whacked stuff.

The main difference is the people who take it literally don't get much air time.

Amy, since when are Muslims restricting this to little girls? My friends and I were sharing a mock list purportedly from our troops called "You might be a Taliban...," including keener observations like "you've ever had a crush on your neighbor's goat," and "you refine heroin for a living but have a moral objection to beer."

Have you never read "The Kite Runner?" There's a seen where the official executioner who just got through stoning an adulteress reveals a little boy that he's keeping for sexual purposes.

Freepers has the list.

I made up one and am trying to get it included on this list: "...you supporting the stoning of homosexuals and adulterers, but sodomize little boys."

See also.

Patrick, that bit reminds me of a line from a comedy skit I saw once: "I'm not homosexual! I just like to have sex with men!"

Crid- that's fucked up they put the word rape in quotations.... of course there's almost nothing about that story that isn't fucked up.

The Taliban quotes are pretty funny, but it reminds me of something I heard somewhere about us in Vietnam. Someone was bragging to a general the Viet Cong had no hope of winning the war since they were down to throwing stones and shooting arrows at our helicopters. The General asked how you could defeat an enemy who would attack a helicopter with arrows and stones (short of killing them all, of course.)

> short of killing them all, of course.

I'll never forget it, in seventh grade. There was this girl in our grade/class (the same high school graduation class I mean, everyone who was the same age). And she was reasonably bright, but no shining light. It's important to remember we're talking about a twelve- or thirteen or year old girl, or whatever you are in that year. She was the daughter of surgeon who'd recently divorced. Her older brothers (they were in high school!) were known for being (to our perception) hyper-masculine guys who got into trouble a lot. (Maybe that means they were caught stealing candy from a machine. The memory is foggy, and we were all children.) In the months ahead she'd be mocked for stuffing her bra, in a year when some of us weren't clear about why anyone would wanna do that.

So we're there in social studies class, and the ancient, beloved teacher was droning on and on about all the details of the Viet Nam war that we'd been trying to make sense of in the newspapers. Body-count-this and torched-hamlet that, y'know. This was just about the time we learned about My Lai. The nearby university's newspaper had recently published an especially memorable photograph of a Viet Cong soldier walking out of the jungle toting two severed heads as if they were sports trophies. It was 1970 or 1971, and the papers and television were full of people asking why this conflict couldn't be won and wrapped up.

So our 7th grade girl listens to this classroom lecture –remember, this is a year or two after we'd studied World War II– and she raises her hand and asks, "Well, why don't we just drop some nuclear bombs on our enemies and bring this to an end?"

And the ancient social studies teacher exclaims, through foamy old lips, "OH! MY DEAR!"

And a half second later –one of the most telling half-seconds of my life– the rest of the class joins in a chorus of humiliating condemnation at this child's violent heartlessness.

It was a good question though. Were we into this, or weren't we?

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See also.

NicoleK:
I don't remember if the Bible condones sex with children or not, but it DOES condone selling your kids into slavery. Re-read Leviticus. Really whacked stuff.

The main difference is the people who take it literally don't get much air time.
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No - the main difference is that what looks primitive to us in the (Jewish) Bible was in fact progressive for its time.

The Jewish sages continued this trajectory, virtually eliminating slavery or indentured servitude for citizens of the Jewish state by the Roman period.

They were not able to change slavery in neighboring cultures (or the Roman empire), but they did forbid Jews from returning a fugitive slave to their gentile master.

Similar trajectory for "women's rights" - the Torah describes the first "pre-nup" and explicitly describes women owning land and goods, and entering into contracts. Things that seem primitive to us now were actually the first steps in safeguarding women's rights.

And I hope you will all participate in Everybody Draw Muhammed Day - links:

http://slog.thestranger.com/slog/archives/2010/04/22/everybody-draw-mohammed-day

http://reason.com/blog/2010/04/23/first-annual-everybody-draw-mo

Hey Amy - how about featuring this as the date comes around?

I distinctly remember a Sunday School lesson when I was in high school that specifically outlined when it was appropriate to kill someone by throwing stones at them. This included text from the New Testament. It's not like we were a extreme group. We had smoke breaks during youth group activities, as an example.

I have plenty of other examples of how Christianity is not any better than Islam. And the worse part about it is that there are very few that have actually read any of their religious materials.