my Cock rules!

It was actually not as bad as I thought it would be, I was expecting him to receive a verbal thrashing, but the two seem to be content with each other; haha, guess you're right about the pussywhipped version of Stockholm Syndrome.

Oh Jeez, don't take this stuff so seriously for Pete's sake. The guy isn't pussy whipped; they just seem to play out some silly thing and probably get a good laugh out of reactions like yours Amy.

This particular video seems staged but regardless it reminds me of a few women I've dated. They openly admitted (usually months after we broke up) that indeed they HAD TO be victorious on EVERY argument and would never let things rest until they felt they were.

IMO this is the mentality of a 5 year old child but I believe such a dynamic exists in quite a few relationships. N.B. It's not always the woman with this ailment.

I hate - with the fiery passion of ten thousand dancing hyenas - the idea of "training" a man. It bugs me even more than when dads are said to be "babysitting" their own children. The phrase popped up in Annie's Mailbox today too, they even took it one step further by giving the same advice for training a husband that you'd give for training a dog. Ugh.

If you treat men like dogs you shouldn't be surprised when they act like one.

I would never do this to my BF. But then again, he wouldn't buy the "wrong" sausage in the first place. o.O

I would never do this to my BF. But then again, he wouldn't buy the "wrong" sausage in the first place. o.O

Frankly, Gregg wouldn't either, because it means something to him to make me happy or at least comfortable -- perhaps, in part, because I'd never, ever, ever treat him like this.

Wench tries that.
Wench goes over my shoulder like an undignified sack of potatos.
Wench gets spanked for being a very bad little wench. ;)

Try the word wench. It rolls off the tongue delightfully, great word.

I think that you'd need to know the couple to determine what's actually going on. They may be playing around with each other.

But I agree that the whole man-training idea is pretty offensive and hypocritical. This incident would be made into a Lifetime movie if the roles were reversed.

Robert: Wench gets spanked for being a very bad little wench. ;)

And Robert goes to jail for battery.

The chick who did this video has a radio program and a website...i dont know if it is legitimate or not but on another video, this chick tells a woman to with hold sex until her husband makes her laugh...this is ridiculous. I am really getting tired of this feminazi crap. Maybe I will create a web site on how to train your wife to suck dick.

"And Robert goes to jail for battery."

Only in the pussywhipped world of Patrick. In the real world, wench learns from her very proper chastisement.

There is one. It is a very instructive and useful tutorial.

Unfortunately I am at work and I cannot get past google....and I cannot remember exactly the address.

try

www.steakandbjday.com

It wont be the first page but there will be an essay on giving great head.

I will look later in the day.

Oh when I found it I had been googling steak and a bj greeting cards.

:D

Robert only goes to jail for wench spanking in the Anglosphere. But, in the Anglosphere, Robert also goes to jail if wench spanks Robert. That is why I developed my Get The Hell Out program.

There are domineering women and wimpy men here in Mexico. Not many, but they exist. When I first seriously moved here, some ten years ago, I met an incredibly pretty niece.

She married and miscarried a baby, which resulted in inability to have more kids. It wasn't so much that she got fat, you know, bigger around, etc.

It was like someone hooked up an air compressor and pumped up an inflatable doll. Even her head pumped up. I never saw that before.

When I bump into her in the market, she always boasts how bossy she is and now obedient her husband is. I always respond by doubling up my fist, and imitating an uppercut, and saying, "To the moon!" implying he needs to hit her so hard she ends up on the moon. She laughs, but she very well understands me.

When I see men like that, I think it's a shame mercy killings are illegal.

Has no one read the Kama Sutra? I haven't seen it in 40 years or so, but memory tells me it goes into great detail teaching women how to do oral sex on a man.

I will say that particular bitch is trying to emasculate her significant other.

Quick glance: If you look at the website you are about 50% of reasonable requests for the guy to be in a marriage, and the rest the women is just being a controlling bitch.

Actually, I wouldn't mind being treated like a dog. Most nasty women pet their dogs, and hug them, and tell them what great doggies they are, and give them good things to eat. Most men could use some of that.

Many years ago, there was a movie in which the actress (Sandra Dee??) got a book on training dogs, and applied it to her boy friend. Naturally, it worked great, until he found the book.

I looked at her URL, and the man is Bob, her husband, who was a DJ in the 70's. Farther down her blog page, she spells it out better,and it makes more sense:

"...No one here is saying a woman should train a man like a dog or that you can change someone who doesn’t want to change. That would be demeaning and demoralizing. It’s actually the opposite of that. Training a man means educating him with your honesty—helping him understand how you feel so there’s no guesswork. It’s about women training themselves to be honest and to stop sending mixed signals or resenting their guys because they’re not behaving the way they think they should. It’s about making a relationship better for both people. One trained man equals one happy man because he doesn’t have to guess what the woman wants.

You can’t blame guys for feeling exasperated. We expect them to be psychic and to know what we’re thinking. "

Her first two postings above were not smart. She told a woman who wanted her husband to be smart; witty; and charming; to tell her husband when he wants sex, he will get it when he is witty, and charming and smart. Um, she married an introverted man and now she wonders why he isn't witty; charming; and smart? I think I see the problem here, and it isn't with him.

The second one was a woman who worries about her husband's health, and she is advised, if I understood it, that nagging him is okay, because it's about his health. Blechhh!!!

Only in the pussywhipped world of Patrick. In the real world, wench learns from her very proper chastisement.

Posted by: Bob at May 8, 2010 10:02 AM

Eh, sorry but Patrick is the one living in the real world, not you Bob. The real world these days is one of domestic violence charges being brought up for yelling (French proposd law), restraining orders tossed out like candy, and men getting arrested even when its clear they were defending themselves from an attacking woman.

Um, she married an introverted man and now she wonders why he isn't witty; charming; and smart? -- irlandes

Huh? OK, charming and introvert I see a connection to though not 100%. Smart - on average introverts appeared to be smarter than extroverts though I suspect that was because the extrovert was busy socializing while the introvert was studying something. (E.I.Q. excepted of course) Witty, I don't see much of a connection either, at least once people get to know each other.

Um... how is referring to the guy as "pussywhipped" any nicer and less humiliating than the video? Cut the guy some slack, he has obviously had a bad day.

We already have in some states a DV law which allows the arrest and financial destruction of men based on a woman's claim that she was scared of him, with no shouting or violence nor threat of violence.

And, my opinion has been some of the things women know they are doing wrong, a reasonable woman might well be afraid of what she deserves.

Most people believe the laws make these things happen. They do not.

Here in Mexico, they have all the laws on DV and divorce and etc. as in the US. Once in a great while, a man will get drunk and his wife will run her mouth and he hits her. She runs down to the procurador and files DV charges. They go out and drag him in.

About three days later, the kids say, "I'm hungry, mom." She suddenly realizes what she has done, and runs down begging them to let him out so he can work and the kids can eat. Then, she runs home and hides under the bed because she well knows what his first task is going to be when he gets out of jail. She does it because most women will take a punch if they must, to feed their kids.

She never has him arrested again. And, I have seen women smile; smile; smile; when their husband is drinking.

Before any of these laws can work, women have to have a substitute husband. That is, a government check if she has no husband and/or a guaranteed good paying job for being female.

It isn't just that women take beatings when they can't get free support for disposing of a husband. Their entire attitude changes and they deal with reality as it is. Unlike what feminists believe, women aren't stupid unless they are allowed to be.

TFB, I wasn't trying to help you make the connection. That is your choice. Those were the words used in the video.

"She does it because most women will take a punch if they must, to feed their kids." This is ok in your mind?

Lets look at it another way. If I'm at a bar an some drunk Irish man (yes I'm talking about a specific incident) slaps my wife's ass would I have been justified in burying my old mans k-bar in his chest. You know under the view that drunk Irish men will only be stupid if allowed. Your wife or girlfriend calling you an asshole doesn't justify hitting them any more than me putting the damn drunk with the green hat (St. Patties day) in a body bag. Especially in Mexico where you can just tell her to fuck off and now she's stuck.

Well, the first thing is, you don't squeeze the sausage out of the casings, you slit the casings with a sharp knife and remove it from the sausage. Second, excuse me? The wrong kind of sausage? I'm to take heat over that?

Next time, you do the shopping bitch, if you don't like the way I do it. Sheesh.

Can't remember if I posted this here, but...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih6W19KTlZo

I thought of that too Steve. It made me wonder if she makes him recycle the condoms...

Uh, I took it that she was making a sexual ennuendo - "taking the sausage out of the casing" (not a very good one, but still). Am I the only one who got the humor? I think they were joking around.

>>"She does it because most women will take a punch if they must, to feed their kids." This is ok in your mind?

I did not say it was okay in my mind. Stop making things up. I am only reporting how things are here, and this was told me by my best friend, a well educated woman in her 50's.

"Their entire attitude changes and they deal with reality as it is. Unlike what feminists believe, women aren't stupid unless they are allowed to be."

I have a friend who came here from Honduras. Talk about poor. She was raped on the way, and ended up pregnant, although she was just 15. But she doesn't take shit off anybody.

She worked for me for awhile, and this is one smart girl (taught herself English by watching TV). She didn't take a dime of assistance. Later, she married a guy she had met while waitressing at a coffee house. He's a basically nice guy, but kinda volatile with a tendency to be verbally abusive when he's frustrated.

Once, he got ugly with her, and she told him if her ever did it again, it would be the last time. Even his mother supported her. He has completely changed in the way he treats her now because he knows she wouldn't put with it, no matter how much money he has. She'd scrub floors all day long before she'd take someone abusing her.

Nobody has to take that abuse, Irlandes. It's not "dealing with the reality as it is". Nor does it make a woman a good wife.

It is dealing with reality the way it is. I note the woman you tell about is in the US with the government umbrella.

In older times affluent people did not believe their children were educated until they had lived in another culture long enough to understand their own. A lot of you would benefit from that as well. You assume your own culture and values are universal among all educated people, which is B.S. Which is why we get into wars, and why terms like Ugly American are used.

Vlad assumed it was okay with me that men hit their wives in Mexico, though I clearly did not say so. Why did he think that?

Because in the US, I am not PC unless I piss and moan and sigh about the horror of it all when I report how it is in another culture. And, I did not piss and moan and sigh, I just told it like it is. Therefore he imagines I must think it's okay.

You apparently assume it is okay for women to scream every imaginable insult at her husband when he is drinking, and nothing should happen to her.

Adjusting to reality is why Mexican women, the smart ones, smile; smile; smile; when their husbands are drinking. It takes a stupid woman to cuss a man out when he's drunk. In Mexico other women do not sympathize with stupid women. It takes an Ugly American to do that.

By the way, my friend also told me most of the time when DV occurs the women are as violent as the men are, just as is the case in the US. The difference here is no one sympathizes with women who hit their husbands, then are surprised when he hits back.

The quickest way to reduce DV in both the US and Mexico is for women to stop hitting men.

I worked with a woman named Thelma, and people would say, "Thelma's husband used to beat her." Oh,the misery of it all.

One day several years after she divorced him, she was talking something about school. She told something stupid her husband had said and made her angry, and blurted out, "I ran across the room and punched him in the mouth."

Yeah, I bet she did, and I bet he hit her back.

My advice to men was if your wife hits you, don't hit back, but likewise do not spend another three minutes in the same house. The problem with this is he loses his kids to a violent woman which is not acceptable. Of course, most violent women have hit their men long before there were any kids.

In the early 90's, someone sent one of my op-eds to a man who worked in a state mental health institute in the Midwest. I had commented that a study in the 80's showed that emergency room visits for DV was equal for men and women. (JAMA).

He wanted to know about the study. He worked in the department that dealt with DV in families. In the past, when they got such a family they took the man aside and called him every name in the book, while Mommy and the kiddies got cookies and milk and were told what victims they were.

That program was a failure. Someone got the brilliant idea of screening for mutual violence, and they found it was common. I asked for numbers and he said, 85%.

They took the kids and gave them milk and cookies and separated the man and woman and told them what they were doing was not acceptable.

When it was apparent they recognized the mutual violence, most men became sheepish, and admitted it was wrong to hit, even when she did it first, and were subject to the benefits of therapy.

Not the women. Almost to the last one, the violent women said they had the right to hit their husbands if he made her angry. They did not respond to therapy.

They tried to publish their findings, and it was refused as counter productive to the protection of all those innocent dearies.

Recommended reading is PRONE TO VIOLENCE, by Erin Pizzey, founder of the first modern DV center. She said of the first 100 women to come to the shelter, 50 were among the most violent people she had ever encountered in her life.

When she reported this, the loving, kind feminists threatened her with death, and she had to leave the UK.

"You apparently assume it is okay for women to scream every imaginable insult at her husband when he is drinking, and nothing should happen to her."

Talk about putting words in someone's mouth. I never said that, nor do I believe it. I think both partners need to treat each other with respect and EQUALITY. When my guy is drinking, I "smile smile smile" because I'm drinking with him! (martinis tonight!)

Irlandes, it's clear from your stories that you revere the women who "smile smile smile" while their men drink so they won't be abused. Just admit it - that's the kind of subordinate woman that appeals to you, and you never tire of seeing or talking about it, sharing little anecdotes about these good little submissive women. I suspect that's probably why you moved to Mexico.

But that's your deal. I gather you are a man of a certain age, which probably explains it. Most men younger than you do not expect - nor desire - a doormat, submissive "smile smile smile" kind of woman. They find it boring. If I was that submissive to my fiance, he'd probably call off the wedding. Believe it or not, there are men who enjoy being in relationships with a woman who is their equal, and not just with them because they pay the all bills...or even expect them to pay all the bills.

I spent some time on trainaman and that woman is rather obvious a NP (Narcisstic Princess) which is a woman who thinks she is so wonderful that only a very lucky man would ever be able to marry her. And, passes by no chance to let him know. It is also about her.

She probably is totally unaware he is held for ransom by his kids.

Her audience is also comprised of NP.

In comments, someone said something about money, and she said she thought in marriage was supposed to be 50/50.

I commented that a study showed that women spend most of the money that is spent. The amount they spend is all they earn, plus half of all men earn.

This includes half of all, that all men earn including single, unmarried men, which means married women spend most of their husband's income as well as their own check, because they don't get to spend single men's checks.

Funny, I really picked up on a dominant/passive, S&M kind of sexual vibe, like when she was asking him what was going to happen, he said, "take it back to the store... (and I almost thought he was going to say) or I'll have to go upstairs so you can spank me..."

Don't forget, some people get off on being passive. He doesn't seem genuinely afraid of her to me. At any rate, I think they were goofing around.

Irlandes's experience with female violence is something I have seen as well. My friend's fiance hit him when we were out at dinner. I told her not to (probably shouldn't have gotten involved) and then she ranted at me for half an hour and said it wasn't her fault because he made her angry. She blamed him for the physical abuse she gave him. Maybe it is a cultural thing? We spend lots of time and effort in our culture explaining to men that hitting women is wrong, but we don't do the same for women.

Bob, irlandes, you're idiots. Tell you what, you come to this country and you attempt to discipline your wives in such a fashion. I will visit you in prison.

Actually, Robert has VERY nice time with aforementioned wench.

Its hard to look seriously pissed AND plain silly at the same time.

You guys are doing a lot of talking AT each other without reading the reply.

>>It's my opinion that he's pussywhipped. I don't know about you, but I would never want a man who would let me do this to him, and I find it painful to watch him going along with this, and be the object of her gimmick.

What is the most ironic aspect of being pussywhipped?? Being pussywhipped means you will get less pussy. The following statement is completely based on my own experiences and observations (not scientific): if you don't show a woman you have a backbone (acting pussywhipped), it kills her sexual desire for you. The women I have known agree with you Amy. They don't want a man they can walk all over. There is an expectation that he should "act like a man". Which brings up the second most ironic thing. At least some of those same women -- who prefer a man they can't walk over -- will still walk over him if he doesn't demonstrate he has a backbone.

Yes, the fact that he put his video out there was poor judgement on his part, but it doesn't change the fact that calling him names is nasty and mean and not necessary. I don't see how you can criticize other women for being mean to men and then turn around and do it yourself.

And the best way to not get into a situation where you have to smile, smile, smile at a drunken idiot is to not marry a drunken idiot to begin with.

Eh, decasing sausage is not a big deal. Avoiding a trip to teh grocery store, however, is priceless!

Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it. Our ancestors had a term for someone like this woman. She would have been called a common scold. Common, because there are so many like her, scold because that is the only purpose she has in life, to scold and criticize all around her.

Most were assumed to be female, however I have had male bosses who were just like her. Always right and always annoying.

The term common scold occurs in literature at least 300 years back. I guess this is what you get for not liking current fiction.

"Almost to the last one, the violent women said they had the right to hit their husbands if he made her angry."

During grad school, I had a conversation with a woman on this topic. She insisted--insisted, literally--that if a woman got mad enough it was okay for her to hit a man, due to the strength imbalance. The woman's weaker physical structure and lack of capability in fighting made the expression of emotion via violence okay, said she.

When I asked if a 120 pound man could therefore strike a college football linebacker, I was told "no". Quickly. When I asked if a person who had trained for a decade in a fighting art and had competitive ring experience would be fair game for another guy who lacked such training and experience, again, I was told "no." How about a gal I know who set a woman's record in female heavyweight power-lifting, could she punch in anger? Yup, she still got the legal okay to hit, said she.

I noted that gender, not size or capability of the aggressor, was the criterion she applied in permitting the violence. She *finally* paused (all her answers had been quick before this), and then simply restated her earlier position, with the quiet solemnity of a priest invoking Christ's death and resurrection. Faith, not reason, was the faculty she employed in this instance.

When I met her, her life's goal was to become a federal district court judge.

No kidding.

She was a woman who had graduated from one of the world's better schools and was then attending one of the nation's very best law schools. She was also a pretty decent person, this wince-inducing incident aside. She had just never really spent much time trying to unpack all the garbage her undergraduate course of studies had fed her. Yeah, it was Women's Studies....

Shows you what diplomas are worth, eh?

Spartee, I think guys often feel the same way about women hitting, like it's not as bad, or perhaps even cute and fiesty.

The other night, my fiance and I were watching "The Holiday", and there's a scene where Cameron Diaz punches Ed Burns in the face (after catching him cheating), and my fiance laughed. I said, "Yeah, but you know if a guy did that, he'd be arrested."

I could tell he'd never considered the difference before, and he hasn't been through women's studies.

Actually, I think he thought I was being a bit of a downer since it's a comedy, but I've become more sensitive to the issue as a result of this blog and seeing it from the guy's perspective.

Yeah as far as I can tell it was meant in a humorous way which I have no problem with. The problem I have is if the situation were reversed, I can see women's groups and the media up in arms about the man subjucating this female and what it implies.

"Spartee, I think guys often feel the same way about women hitting, like it's not as bad, or perhaps even cute and fiesty."

You are right on that, LS. It's degrading to women - "Oh, you're so cute when you're mad" - and discriminatory on men. Men do it to other men because it's a form of competition and because it makes them feel all manly to be protecting a frail, little woman, regardless of the facts of the situation.