Free Speech And Islam Are Bad Neighbors
Keith Yost writes in MIT's student newspaper:
The line seems to keep getting pushed back further and further. With van Gogh, we discovered that we cannot criticize Islam. With Jyllands-Posten, we found that we cannot criticize our inability to criticize Islam. And now with South Park we find that we cannot even criticize our inability to criticize. Forget Islam for a moment how is it that our society, which enshrines free speech as a fundamental right, came to self-censor a debate on self-censorship?There are many out there, myself included, who believe that the war on terror will not end with a bomb being dropped or a gun being fired, but instead will be won by the power of our democratic system, our ability to discuss and persuade others of the validity of our ideas. There can be no lasting victory through the force of arms -- until we create a level of mutual respect between our societies, until we win the debate being held at the kitchen tables of moderate Muslims, there will always be fresh bodies for the grist mill.
But how can we engage in such a debate when we restrict ourselves from participating? How can we pretend to preach tolerance and human rights when we betray our own ideals? I am not calling for offending for offense's sake there is a reasonable argument to be had that responsible institutions should take measures, including self-censorship, to avoid inspiring animosity between Islam and the West. In the course of this balancing act, we will find some criticism that is important to a full and honest exchange but potentially inflammatory -- such criticism falls into a grey area that we as a society should continue to debate. South Park however, did not even come close to this grey area. There was no criticism of Islam beyond its indirect and disturbing effects on our free speech. Theirs was an attempt to participate in the debate about where self-censorship should draw the line.
Muhammad in a bear costume (as South Park pseudo-portrayed him) may sound silly, but with this censorship what we are looking at is our core democratic principles under attack. Our citizens have the right to satirize Muhammad without fear of retribution, just as they have the right to declare themselves gay or to let their religious beliefs be known. A violent minority has, through the threat of violence, caused us to surrender this right. It is one thing for someone to decide, of their own volition, whether or not to say something. It is an entirely a different matter when someone wants to say something, but fears they will be harmed as a consequence.
We would never accept this attack on our political discourse if it came from any other source.
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After the revulsion, Mr Yost's tepid bleat inspires in me the image of Winston Churchill with a big fucking gun, tiptoeing around Elmer Fudd style.
Shhhhh... I'm hunting cwocodile!
Because sometimes the manly thing to do is to recognize your mortal enemy, and give him the respect he deserves by blowing his brains out before he does it to you. Take his declared enmity seriously, in other words.
What a disgraceful hope it is that the crocodile will eat you last.
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phunctor at June 18, 2010 1:43 AM
The triumph of stealth jihad by political correctness. I am wondering of my left-liberal friends will ever see Islamism as a greater threat than Republicans or (gasp!) the Tea Party movement.
BlogDog at June 18, 2010 1:53 AM
I think part of the problem in persuasion from the west to the middle east is the lack of participation from the west in persuading. During British colonial times it was seen as being advantageous to move over seas, leaving crowded England, moving to a colony, and teach others western ways. In todays America the opposite seems to be true. Even in Iraq, where the military created an opportunity for western change to occur, the Americans sent to teach western democracy to Iraqis could not wait to leave the country once their time was up. I forget his name, but the original ambassador to the new Iraq left his post 2 weeks early! Who can blame him, the place is hot, full of diseases westerns are not used to dealing with, and a place where loosing ones head can be literal.
Zebra at June 18, 2010 5:27 AM
I cannot recall who or when, but I once read that a Holocaust survivor stated that the lesson he took from his experience in Auschwitz was ""When someone says they are going to kill you believe them."
From what I can tell, radical Islam adherents state a desire to kill many Westerners in their bid to extend their control over the entire Islamic region and eventually the world. (The less radical adherents to the religion of Islam too often seem disposed towards ignoring or refraining from confronting their radical co-religionists, leaving us to face them on our own.)
We need to believe them when they say that is their goal. And while they hold that goal and act on it, we need to find them and kill them.
I know, I know. That is a terrible thing, killing these people. But unless you are willing to offer your life and freedom up to them, that is the choice. Talking and engagement and dialogue is not going to bring them around.
Spartee at June 18, 2010 6:47 AM
The less radical adherents of the Religion of Peace aren't ignoring their more radical brethren. They simply think the radicals are a tad too enthusiastic, but they don't disagree with the final product: all people on Earth living under a unified Caliphate, called to pray 5 times a day.
I wonder, are the feminists ready to be treated as chattel? where's my sammich?
I R A Darth Aggie at June 18, 2010 9:37 AM
The problem is that people think Islam is a religion. It's not - it's a political movement disguised as a religion.
This disguise is one we accept, which makes it hard for a civilization based on religious tolerance to respond to Islam's political provocations.
Punditius at June 18, 2010 5:54 PM
Unfortunately, Nelson Chamberlain wannabes outnumber the Winston Churchills in today's climate when it comes to attitudes towards the totalitarian aspects of Islam. It will probably take another disaster of Pearl Harbor magnitude before the appeasers of Islam are finally drowned out and the West mobilizes its collective resources against this scourge of the 21st century.
Tony at June 18, 2010 7:35 PM
It will probably take another disaster of Pearl Harbor magnitude before the appeasers of Islam are finally drowned out and the West mobilizes its collective resources against this scourge of the 21st century.
Pearl Harbor: The overall death toll reached 2350, including 68 civilians, and 1178 injured.
9/11: The death toll of the attacks was 2995, including the 19 hijackers.
And that doesn't include prior and subsequent attacks in Spain, England, and other countries, let alone the failed/intercepted attempts.
When do you expect them to wake up?
Jim P. at June 18, 2010 9:48 PM
The answer to Blog Dog is "no".
Jim's point is valid. While Pearl Harbor provided the impetus to declare war and eventually vanquish the enemy, it happened thousands of miles away from any American state, and so had no immediacy for anyone then living within the U.S. (except for those whose loved ones died at PH).
9/11 happened in the middle of our biggest cities, to civilians sitting at their desks working (or flying) on a Tuesday morning. It will apparently take more, a lot more, perhaps the liquidation of an entire American city in a nuclear inferno, to finally wake us up. And I'm not completely sure about that, given what our society's priorities have become.
As it turned out, we not only didn't sustain our outrage at such an attack, the pandering to Islam is much worse than it was a decade ago. Just last night, I sat at the Mount Rushmore monument during the nightly lighting ceremony and listened to a park ranger liken the "harassment" of Arabs in this country to slavery, the extermination of American Indian tribes, and the incarceration of Asians in west coast camps during WWII.
We have completely lost our perspective. We are trying our best to forget who the enemy is, not to mention forget what he has already done to us in the name of his ideology. Such neglect of one's enemy never ends well.
cpabroker at June 19, 2010 9:15 AM
Why not offend Islam for the fun of it?
Fuck em.
Robert at June 19, 2010 11:27 AM
The fact that too many nonbelievers ignored the nastiness of islam and pandered too much to the whims and fancies of islamic people just sickens me to death. I see islamic community would pretend to live in poverty while their islamic community have mega mosqes even in a small town. The fact that islam make use of other gulliblle nonbelievers to further their islamic community totalitarian aims also sickens me.
WLIL at June 20, 2010 10:17 PM
Another fact is that islamic people used alot of corrupting measures and subtle pressure to further their islamic totalitarian aims. Even as a small minority group, they would demand alot of special privileges for their own islamic community.
Poor unaware nonbelievers just got stucked into their horrible islamic system even in the West.
Also many nonbelievers who got taken in by the socalled generosity of islamic people, did not know that having anything to do with islamic people is just unhealthy and can be very devastating and dangerous.
WLIL at June 20, 2010 10:36 PM
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