Crid [cridcomment at gmail]
at November 30, 2010 7:51 AM
Can’t say I agree or see the point of these shirts. I understand people feel their 4th amendment rights are being violated by using the x-ray scanners, but the alternative is to go back to the traditional metal detectors, right?
I would think the metal ink would then set off the traditional metal detectors and give TSA agents’ justifiable suspicion to search a person by hand because the machine just detected that someone might have something dangerous strapped to their chest. As the 4th amendment states, a person can be frisked without their rights being violated if authorities have probable cause.
It just seems like someone wearing a shirt like this is asking to be searched, which is quite opposite of the message imprinted on the fabric.
Miranda
at November 30, 2010 8:52 AM
> someone wearing a shirt like this
> is asking to be searched
The fuck they are;
> which is quite opposite of the
> message imprinted on the fabric.
The (butt) fuck it is.
Crid [cridcomment at gmail]
at November 30, 2010 10:56 AM
The world changed 45 minutes after the planes struck the WTC.
Jim P.
at November 30, 2010 8:12 PM
This lull after Thanksgiving is when the local grade schools drag squadrons of children through my office here to explain to them what I do. They always call a few days in advance to make sure it's convenient, so I try to accommodate them... Unless it's the Opium New Moon (which –by sidereal happenstance– usually occurs closer to Christmas, when they have other things going on anyway.)
I don't like children very much, but I have to admit, the teachers are always very attentive in making sure the little shits don't fuck with the guitars, or break any of the Waterford crystal, or steal any of the knick-knacks I've been sent by the Nobel laureates over the years.
And I must confess that every now and then one of the little peckerheads actually comprehends what I'm doing here, and registers the horror of my duty in a convincingly emotional way:
"Mr. Crid, aren't you appalled that you have to constantly remind idiotic blog commenters about both the rights and responsibilities that accrue to them AS AMERICANS? I mean, geez, Sir... Aren't they supposed to feel this stuff in their bones? Why should anyone have to remind them not to cower like sheep just because some fuckbrained dork-asaures in Washington decides to whip out a ball point pen and scratch out some trouble?"
"Well, little Connor", I'll begin, as I pour myself a second morning Chianti, "I think you'll find that the weaknesses in the hearts of your fellows will be continuing, lifelong source of repugnance and terror to you, just as they've been to me.
"Now get your motherfucking mitts off my Stratocaster."
Crid [CridComment at gmail]
at November 30, 2010 8:43 PM
Crid [CridComment at gmail]
at November 30, 2010 8:46 PM
Jim – I agree with you. Let the angry mob deal with their own problem on board. Let them carry the tools necessary to defend themselves. Even if it happens again, on my flight, when it’s my time to go it’s my time to go. The odds are stacked in my favor anyway. The *super security* of the TSA does not put my mind at ease because I was never concerned with hijacking pre or post 9-11 anyway.
I think the restrictions are bad and just a way to create the illusion of control. Anyway, the two “bombers” I seem to remember post 9/11 were the guy with the wires in his shoes and the man who packed a bomb in his underwear. Maybe there were others. The flights of those two bombers originated in other countries; Paris and Amsterdam. Did I miss something where these two guys walked through American security and we failed to stop them? No, the people who went through the same security as the bombers stopped them. That's the way it should be.
In my opinion the TSA is a waste of money. I am not nor ever was scared to fly. 9/11 was terrible but no more tragic for me than the subway bombing of London or other acts of terrorism across the globe.
Miranda
at December 1, 2010 2:00 PM
>> Maybe there were others.
I was referring to the incidents where people "go off" on aircraft that they've had to divert and land the planes. The flight attendants and then passengers have stepped in to control the person until they land.
If the majority of passengers had tazers, knives, and zip-strips or the airlines had a "security" boxes right next to the first-aid boxes we would be twice as safe just going through metal detectors and x-rays.
I do my best not to fly if at all possible. I drove ten hours, each way, to go see family for 2.5 days back in PA this Thanksgiving. The actual flight would have been about 1 to 1.5 hours each way. The trip to and through an airport would be about 10 hours.
Jim P.
at December 1, 2010 8:24 PM
> In my opinion the TSA is a waste of money.
Then why on Earth are you mocking those who'd so mildly interfere with the process for being insufficiently submissive?
That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Crid [CridComment at gmail]
at December 2, 2010 1:28 AM
It's certainly a more dignified solution than flying pasties.
Elle at November 30, 2010 7:40 AM
9:50 PM. Amy, I can see 8 hours into your future.
(Watch out for that banana peel!)
Crid [cridcomment at gmail] at November 30, 2010 7:51 AM
Can’t say I agree or see the point of these shirts. I understand people feel their 4th amendment rights are being violated by using the x-ray scanners, but the alternative is to go back to the traditional metal detectors, right?
I would think the metal ink would then set off the traditional metal detectors and give TSA agents’ justifiable suspicion to search a person by hand because the machine just detected that someone might have something dangerous strapped to their chest. As the 4th amendment states, a person can be frisked without their rights being violated if authorities have probable cause.
It just seems like someone wearing a shirt like this is asking to be searched, which is quite opposite of the message imprinted on the fabric.
Miranda at November 30, 2010 8:52 AM
> someone wearing a shirt like this
> is asking to be searched
The fuck they are;
> which is quite opposite of the
> message imprinted on the fabric.
The (butt) fuck it is.
Crid [cridcomment at gmail] at November 30, 2010 10:56 AM
Miranda,
There will never be another 9/11.
I have made my comment here.
The world changed 45 minutes after the planes struck the WTC.
Jim P. at November 30, 2010 8:12 PM
This lull after Thanksgiving is when the local grade schools drag squadrons of children through my office here to explain to them what I do. They always call a few days in advance to make sure it's convenient, so I try to accommodate them... Unless it's the Opium New Moon (which –by sidereal happenstance– usually occurs closer to Christmas, when they have other things going on anyway.)
I don't like children very much, but I have to admit, the teachers are always very attentive in making sure the little shits don't fuck with the guitars, or break any of the Waterford crystal, or steal any of the knick-knacks I've been sent by the Nobel laureates over the years.
And I must confess that every now and then one of the little peckerheads actually comprehends what I'm doing here, and registers the horror of my duty in a convincingly emotional way:
"Mr. Crid, aren't you appalled that you have to constantly remind idiotic blog commenters about both the rights and responsibilities that accrue to them AS AMERICANS? I mean, geez, Sir... Aren't they supposed to feel this stuff in their bones? Why should anyone have to remind them not to cower like sheep just because some fuckbrained dork-asaures in Washington decides to whip out a ball point pen and scratch out some trouble?"
"Well, little Connor", I'll begin, as I pour myself a second morning Chianti, "I think you'll find that the weaknesses in the hearts of your fellows will be continuing, lifelong source of repugnance and terror to you, just as they've been to me.
"Now get your motherfucking mitts off my Stratocaster."
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at November 30, 2010 8:43 PM
I mean, what the fuck...?
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at November 30, 2010 8:46 PM
Jim – I agree with you. Let the angry mob deal with their own problem on board. Let them carry the tools necessary to defend themselves. Even if it happens again, on my flight, when it’s my time to go it’s my time to go. The odds are stacked in my favor anyway. The *super security* of the TSA does not put my mind at ease because I was never concerned with hijacking pre or post 9-11 anyway.
I think the restrictions are bad and just a way to create the illusion of control. Anyway, the two “bombers” I seem to remember post 9/11 were the guy with the wires in his shoes and the man who packed a bomb in his underwear. Maybe there were others. The flights of those two bombers originated in other countries; Paris and Amsterdam. Did I miss something where these two guys walked through American security and we failed to stop them? No, the people who went through the same security as the bombers stopped them. That's the way it should be.
In my opinion the TSA is a waste of money. I am not nor ever was scared to fly. 9/11 was terrible but no more tragic for me than the subway bombing of London or other acts of terrorism across the globe.
Miranda at December 1, 2010 2:00 PM
>> Maybe there were others.
I was referring to the incidents where people "go off" on aircraft that they've had to divert and land the planes. The flight attendants and then passengers have stepped in to control the person until they land.
If the majority of passengers had tazers, knives, and zip-strips or the airlines had a "security" boxes right next to the first-aid boxes we would be twice as safe just going through metal detectors and x-rays.
I do my best not to fly if at all possible. I drove ten hours, each way, to go see family for 2.5 days back in PA this Thanksgiving. The actual flight would have been about 1 to 1.5 hours each way. The trip to and through an airport would be about 10 hours.
Jim P. at December 1, 2010 8:24 PM
> In my opinion the TSA is a waste of money.
Then why on Earth are you mocking those who'd so mildly interfere with the process for being insufficiently submissive?
That doesn't make a lick of sense.
Crid [CridComment at gmail] at December 2, 2010 1:28 AM
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