"Distracted Moving"?
I'm probably six times as annoyed as the next person by the people who hold up traffic while fingering their electronic binkies while crossing the street, but the answer to all life's issues isn't banning everything until all we can do is stay home in bed sucking our thumbs (until they get around to banning thumbs, too).
At reason, Radley Balko blogs that the Nanny Statists have taken aim at jogging with your iPod. Susan Saulny and Matt Richtel write in The New York Times:
In New York, a bill is pending in the legislature's transportation committee that would ban the use of mobile phones, iPods or other electronic devices while crossing streets -- runners and other exercisers included. Legislation pending in Oregon would restrict bicyclists from using mobile phones and music players, and a Virginia bill would keep such riders from using a "hand-held communication device."
So, because there are no real criminals left in New York, the police would be stopping some Wall Street hot shit crossing West Broadway to see if his headphones are on? Geeeenius.







At least the police can sometimes be counted on to ignore non-value-added laws. The real question is why lawmakers don't have more important things to do.
Bicycling with headphones on is potentially dangerous, though.
DaveG at January 27, 2011 4:55 AM
Those who believe that we need the government to protect us from ourselves will continue to pass more, and more, of these laws. Is it potentially dangerous to ride a bicycle with headphones on? Yes. But it's also potentially dangerous to ride a bicycle in NY without headphones on. Where do you draw the line on government intervention? Who's at risk if a jogger is wearing headphones? Obviously, the jogger. So who should decide if the jogger should be wearing headphones? In my libertarian utopia, it should be up to the jogger.
AlS at January 27, 2011 6:39 AM
The police will ignore the laws the way they ignore jaywalking laws. They really do have better things to do.
MonicaP at January 27, 2011 6:47 AM
The police do not ignore 'non-value-added' laws; they enforce them against some and not others. I am glad people are finally waking up, but the erosion of personal liberty has been going on for our entire lifetimes. I would feel better about re-gaining our freedoms if issues like eminent domain & The Patriot Act got the same attention from the public as airport genital photography and cell phone restrictions. The average American works over twenty years to earn a million dollars. We are spending over two-hundred million dollars a day in Iraq. You don't create a smaller government by expanding the laws that restrict personal liberties or without reducing the size of the military and intelligence departments.
nuzltr2 at January 27, 2011 6:50 AM
Who's at risk if a jogger is wearing headphones? Obviously, the jogger.
Yeah, righ up until you hit a jogger who didn't see or hear you coming and came out right in front of you. Not only will you suffer emotional trauma from their poor choice - you did hit them - they'll probably add insult to injury by suing you and your insurance company for actual and punative damages.
At least if they broke a law, you'd have that going for you during the trial. Otherwise, you may look like a deep pocket to a jury inclined to award damages to the injured party. Hopefully, you'll have some witnesses, otherwise you'll probably get screwed.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 27, 2011 7:12 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/01/27/distracted_movi.html#comment-1831069">comment from I R A Darth AggieI am terrified of hitting one of these nitwits on their devices -- they leap into traffic with oblivion. But, you don't ban a practice for all because SOME are assholes about it.
Oh, and PS are we going to ban bicycles? The other day, in the dark, a girl with no lights on rode right past me on the right as I was turning right. If I didn't drive with great attentiveness -- hyper-attentiveness -- she would have been hit by me and hurt.
Amy Alkon
at January 27, 2011 7:26 AM
Making this a law is pointless. The technology is becoming so small that it is becoming really difficult to tell when people are using it, especially with phones.
Also, it's a pain in the ass. It's not unusual for me to walk from 5 to 20 blocks to get where I'm going. I'm not going to remove my iPod at the end of each block. I'm perfectly capable of listening to music and crossing the street at the same time. And what do they mean by using? If I go into a store, very often I'll turn off the iPod so I can conduct business, but I'll leave the earbuds in my ears or over my shoulder. Would it be illegal to even appear to be using an iPod or phone?
Maybe we'll see a return to boom boxes. That would be MUCH better.
MonicaP at January 27, 2011 7:47 AM
Yes! Everyone with the super-sized Ghetto Blaster with the 8" woofers in it.
And a different song on every one.
The cacophony would be wonderful.
brian at January 27, 2011 8:15 AM
I am terrified of hitting one of these nitwits on their devices -- they leap into traffic with oblivion. But, you don't ban a practice for all because SOME are assholes about it.
I get what you're saying and sympathize, but so long as these nitwits double down on their rude behaviour by declining to take responsibility for their actions and shifting the blame to an innocent party, there will be attempts like this law to shift the blame back where it belongs.
Had you hit that bicyclist, you'd been found at fault. Doesn't matter that she was trying to pass on the right, or didn't observe your turn signal, or that she didn't have any lights on after dark,
I R A Darth Aggie at January 27, 2011 9:09 AM
Whooops...you would have been on the hook for her choices.
I R A Darth Aggie at January 27, 2011 9:11 AM
Seems like a bit of tension with the War On Obesity. Aren't we supposed to encourage people to walk/bike/run?
smurfy at January 27, 2011 10:44 AM
So this means we can expect a law against hearing rap with the volume at 11 blasting from cars?
I do it all the time. It isn't. What is dangerous is cycling without a rear view mirror.
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Beware of confirmation bias: that someone is clueless with earbuds doesn't mean they would be any more clueful with them.
Hey Skipper at January 27, 2011 11:38 AM
Amy Alkon
http://www.advicegoddess.com/archives/2011/01/27/distracted_movi.html#comment-1831309">comment from Hey Skipperwe can expect a law against hearing rap with the volume at 11 blasting from cars
I believe there are noise laws against this, not that they're enforced.
I've been reading that this may have negative health effects -- this low bass heard over a period of time, especially.
Amy Alkon
at January 27, 2011 11:40 AM
testing
Amy Alkon at January 27, 2011 3:05 PM
date test
Gregg Sutter at January 27, 2011 3:10 PM
"I've been reading that this may have negative health effects -- this low bass heard over a period of time, especially. "
Well, there you go: the perfect "reason" to pass laws and regulations. It's for your own good!
And notice this about public health-care plans:
The agent who provides your health care can deny you care in certain cases. What do you think will happen when the sole provider of your health care - the Federal government - notices a risky behavior costs the system money?
Radwaste at January 28, 2011 5:34 AM
I don't own a BMW, but I'll bet the guy who was found in the trunk of his car with his ears cut off wished the NY cops were paying more attention to career criminals.
MarkD at January 28, 2011 6:04 AM
I R A Darth Aggie hit on one of my first thoughts. Maybe the laws are really for the protection of the taxpayers and property owners.
Think of the woman who fell into the mall fountain while texting. She should have let it go and slunk away with the embarassment, but NO. Let's sue. Not my fault. Well, it was her fault and she was not hurt or damaged.
I am not fond of laws that are paternalistic and try to protect people from their own bad choices. OTOH, I am even more down on people who expect to hold others responsible, and even profit from, their own bad choices. Not sure of the solution - just frustrated.
Just a Guy at January 28, 2011 11:07 AM
These laws are there for one reason, for the 'protection' of the jobs of bureaucrats looking to justify their presence as leeches on taxpayers.
Just one more financial straw on the camel's back. Any day now, it will break. Many municipalities and states are already staring bankruptcy in the face. The party is coming to an end.
Lobster at January 29, 2011 12:50 PM
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